My state is trying to produce industrial hemp

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ShawnD1

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Originally posted by: Juddog
Hemp is awesome, I bought my wife a pair of hemp blue jeans something like 8 years ago and they are still in great shape.
Aren't children the only people who destroy clothes before they go out of style? My parents still have clothes from 30 years ago that are in great shape but are no longer worn because the style has changed. It seems like a waste of money to buy stronger clothes when cheap cotton clothes are already strong enough to last for a decade.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: spidey07
Is there a single con to this?

The downside is that industrial hemp crosses with marijuana, diluting the THC content in the pot plants. Kentucky pot growers stand to lose big if industrial hemp is grown near their crops.

Good point. We're the biggest producer next to CA. But I don't think cross pollination would occur all the much.
 

GuitarDaddy

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Nov 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: sdifox
I still don't understand why there is such restriction on hemp.

More reading says it's a federal law thing. A lot of states seems to be pushing to have that ban lifted though.

Cut and paste from wiki, and accurate IMO

Cliffs

USDA bulliten 404 in 1916 reports Hemp production for pulp and paper produces roughly 4 times the yield per acre of timber and produces less toxins and can replace 70% of pulp and paper production

Timber, paper, newspapers and wood pulp processing and plastics in the US were controlled by William Randolf Hearst and Andrew Mellon(Dupont)

Hearst and Mellon had serious conections including family members in government. Mellon's nephew-in-law was appointed head of newly created FBNDD and enacted the 1937 marijuana tax act which criminalize MJ, thus eliminating the competition maintaining their wood/pulp/paper/plastic empires


WIKI
DuPont, William Randolph Hearst, and hemp


The decision of the United States Congress to pass the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937 was based on hearings,[21] reports[22] and in part on testimony derived from articles in newspapers owned by William Randolph Hearst, who had significant financial interests in the timber industry, which manufactured his newsprint.[23]

Cannabis activist Jack Herer has researched DuPont and in his 1985 book The Emperor Wears No Clothes, Herer concluded DuPont played a large role in the criminalization of cannabis. In 1938, DuPont patented the processes for creating plastics from coal and oil and a new process for creating paper from wood pulp. If hemp had been largely exploited, Herer believes it would have likely been used to make paper and plastic (nylon), and may have hurt DuPont's profits. Andrew Mellon of the Mellon Bank was DuPont's chief financial backer and was also the Secretary of the Treasury under the Hoover administration. Mellon appointed Harry J. Anslinger, who later became his nephew-in-law, as the head of the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs (FBNDD) and the Federal Bureau of Narcotics (FBN), where Anslinger stayed until 1962.[24]

In 1916, United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) chief scientists Jason L. Merrill and Lyster H. Dewe created paper made from hemp pulp, which they concluded was "favorable in comparison with those used with pulp wood in USDA Bulletin No. 404."[25] In his book Herer summarized the findings of Bulletin No. 404:[26]

USDA Bulletin No. 404, reported that one acre of hemp, in annual rotation over a 20-year period, would produce as much pulp for paper as 4.1 acres (17,000 m2) of trees being cut down over the same 20-year period. This process would use only 1/4 to 1/7 as much polluting sulfur-based acid chemicals to break down the glue-like lignin that binds the fibers of the pulp, or even none at all using soda ash. The problem of dioxin contamination of rivers is avoided in the hemp paper making process, which does not need to use chlorine bleach (as the wood pulp paper making process requires) but instead safely substitutes hydrogen peroxide in the bleaching process. ... If the new (1916) hemp pulp paper process were legal today, it would soon replace about 70% of all wood pulp paper, including computer printout paper, corrugated boxes and paper bags.

Hemp was a relatively easy target because factories already had made large investments in equipment to handle cotton, wool, and linen, but there were relatively small investments in hemp production. Big technological improvements in the wood pulp industry were invented in the 1930s; for example the recovery boiler allowed kraft mills to recycle almost all of their pulping chemicals, and other improvements came later. There was also a misconception hemp had an intoxicating effect because it has the same active substance, THC, which is in potent cannabis strains; however, hemp only has minimal amount of THC when compared to recreational cannabis strains.

 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: ShawnD1
Originally posted by: Juddog
Hemp is awesome, I bought my wife a pair of hemp blue jeans something like 8 years ago and they are still in great shape.
Aren't children the only people who destroy clothes before they go out of style? My parents still have clothes from 30 years ago that are in great shape but are no longer worn because the style has changed. It seems like a waste of money to buy stronger clothes when cheap cotton clothes are already strong enough to last for a decade.

Hemp has always been cheaper than cotton. It's the DEA making it more expensive than it has to be. You would think they would jump at the chance of diluting THC potency of the pot hitting the streets.
 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: ShawnD1
Originally posted by: Juddog
Hemp is awesome, I bought my wife a pair of hemp blue jeans something like 8 years ago and they are still in great shape.
Aren't children the only people who destroy clothes before they go out of style? My parents still have clothes from 30 years ago that are in great shape but are no longer worn because the style has changed. It seems like a waste of money to buy stronger clothes when cheap cotton clothes are already strong enough to last for a decade.

Classic clothes never go out of style. Most of my clothes styles have been around for 50 years or more. They looked good then, they look good now, and they'll look good 20 years from now.
 

ShawnD1

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May 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: ShawnD1
Originally posted by: Juddog
Hemp is awesome, I bought my wife a pair of hemp blue jeans something like 8 years ago and they are still in great shape.
Aren't children the only people who destroy clothes before they go out of style? My parents still have clothes from 30 years ago that are in great shape but are no longer worn because the style has changed. It seems like a waste of money to buy stronger clothes when cheap cotton clothes are already strong enough to last for a decade.

Hemp has always been cheaper than cotton. It's the DEA making it more expensive than it has to be. You would think they would jump at the chance of diluting THC potency of the pot hitting the streets.
I wasn't talking about how much it should cost, but how much it does cost. Right now, hemp is very expensive because it's currently a special product. The only hemp jeans I've seen in a store were $60 whereas my regular jeans were $20. Not sure how much shirts cost but I doubt I could find a hemp shirt for less than $10.

As for why the DEA doesn't jump at the chance to flood the market with hemp, it's because the government is run by idiots. These are the people who make ephedrine and pseudoephedrine (nasal decongestants) as illegal as possible then they wonder why so many people are taking sick days. They can't even tie together the most basic idea of "I can't breathe" = "I'm not going to work today"
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: ShawnD1
Originally posted by: Juddog
Hemp is awesome, I bought my wife a pair of hemp blue jeans something like 8 years ago and they are still in great shape.
Aren't children the only people who destroy clothes before they go out of style? My parents still have clothes from 30 years ago that are in great shape but are no longer worn because the style has changed. It seems like a waste of money to buy stronger clothes when cheap cotton clothes are already strong enough to last for a decade.

Stop popping the collars of your shirt and they will never look out of style.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: ShawnD1
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: ShawnD1
Originally posted by: Juddog
Hemp is awesome, I bought my wife a pair of hemp blue jeans something like 8 years ago and they are still in great shape.
Aren't children the only people who destroy clothes before they go out of style? My parents still have clothes from 30 years ago that are in great shape but are no longer worn because the style has changed. It seems like a waste of money to buy stronger clothes when cheap cotton clothes are already strong enough to last for a decade.

Hemp has always been cheaper than cotton. It's the DEA making it more expensive than it has to be. You would think they would jump at the chance of diluting THC potency of the pot hitting the streets.
I wasn't talking about how much it should cost, but how much it does cost. Right now, hemp is very expensive because it's currently a special product. The only hemp jeans I've seen in a store were $60 whereas my regular jeans were $20. Not sure how much shirts cost but I doubt I could find a hemp shirt for less than $10.

As for why the DEA doesn't jump at the chance to flood the market with hemp, it's because the government is run by idiots. These are the people who make ephedrine and pseudoephedrine (nasal decongestants) as illegal as possible then they wonder why so many people are taking sick days. They can't even tie together the most basic idea of "I can't breathe" = "I'm not going to work today"

Retail price has very little to do with material cost these days.
 

ShawnD1

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May 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: ShawnD1
Originally posted by: Juddog
Hemp is awesome, I bought my wife a pair of hemp blue jeans something like 8 years ago and they are still in great shape.
Aren't children the only people who destroy clothes before they go out of style? My parents still have clothes from 30 years ago that are in great shape but are no longer worn because the style has changed. It seems like a waste of money to buy stronger clothes when cheap cotton clothes are already strong enough to last for a decade.

Stop popping the collars of your shirt and they will never look out of style.
1980s suit
I bought a suit just like that from Value Village for $20 for a Halloween costume. It fits great but it still looks old because of the color pattern. I was dressed as Tommy from GTA Vice City. Real life equivalent would be either of the two guys from Miami Vice. You don't still dress like Don Johnson do you?
 

lxskllr

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Originally posted by: ShawnD1

1980s suit
I bought a suit just like that from Value Village for $20 for a Halloween costume. It fits great but it still looks old because of the color pattern. I was dressed as Tommy from GTA Vice City. Real life equivalent would be either of the two guys from Miami Vice. You don't still dress like Don Johnson do you?

That's because that isn't classic. If you don't have the eye for clothes, it may be best that you buy new ones every few years. If you buy right, they never go out of style.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
there are plenty of cons

if you are the cotton industry

Maybe, but cotton growers could just switch to hemp. Five years and they'd be good to go. I live in a cotton state.
 

Eli

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Oct 9, 1999
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Nope. It's stronger and softer than cotton, and there is a faster turn around rate on the crops. The shit grows like, well.. a weed.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: sdifox
I still don't understand why there is such restriction on hemp.

because marijuana is illegal in all forms... and hemp is just the male form of marijuana... if you believe family guy, hemp was illegalized because it was poised to overtake the paper industry and well, the paper industry had more $$ to influence the gov't

Hemp is NOT the male form of marijuana.
 
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