My take on the next 45 days

[BallaTheFeared]

the consumer cares especially when he has to pay 60 - 70% more money for GTX 780 compared to GTX 770 for 20% better stock performance and 30% better max OC perf. so yeah perf / sq mm is very relevant. And thats where the role of competition is so important. Hawaii should bring competition to GK110 and better prices all round.

And for years they sold as big of dies for $350, let's not pretend the cost of GK110 to fab is what drives its retail price :\

You can't tack on the performance/nvidia tax to big die and then pretend the two coincide and thus perf/ sq mm all of a sudden matters and is a viable metric.

That is more of a design flaw of than being "clocked too high." I think Nvidia did not anticipate GK104 improving as much as it did over GF114.

I'd like to think they knew what they were doing, but then again they should have dropped hotclocks with Fermi if that was the case.

GTX 680 gains a huge amount of perf/w and loses barely any performance by artificially limiting it to 170w.

 

[njdevilsfan87]

I guess spending $999 on any PC graphics card at the minute is silly, considering you have been, and will be playing console ports 90% of the time. Next week I'm buying either a GTX670 or a 7950 for around £160 and maybe a year after the next gen consoles have been around, I'll pick up a card that runs the NEW generation of shitty console to PC ports 2x faster than the Titan or any current "top end" card, probably for pennies.

I will too, but until then I shall enjoy Titan.

I think AMD will match GTX 780 / Titan and price it $100 less than GTX 780. They kind of have to. It's already been close to 7 months since Titan's release.

 

[tviceman]

GTX 680 gains a huge amount of perf/w and loses barely any performance by artificially limiting it to 170w.

Well with that same frame of thought, the 7970GE is pushed in the same regard as GK104. Not saying that is good or bad, and I think you've said pretty much the same thing in the past, but it just goes to show how both sides are still competing / pushing each other.

 

[el etro]

That's because GK104 was clocked higher than it should have been :|

They changed the clocks to beat Tahiti.