Fair enough, perhaps some people might be fine with it, but I woulnd't even consider recommending it to family or friends, because I know there would be a lot of confused frustrated people asking me for help.
I would.
My wife, for example, is quite averse to change. She likes her Win7, hates OSX - never gave it a fair shot when I bought our Mac Mini. She doesn't even really get along with our iPad. Not that she can't use it, she just doesn't like it. She's pretty set in her computing ways.
When I installed Win8 it took her 15 minutes to get the basics. The only real issue she struggled with was switching apps. Once I showed her the different ways, she fell right in to it. She enjoys the metro UI, especially the live tiles. She likes using some of the dedicated site apps - as opposed to having to use the browser - she likes the social integration, notifications, etc...
I like it too. I find the Metro UI pleasing to look at and no obstacle to effectively using the machine. I also like some of the apps quite a bit, social integration, notifications, all that... What I really like are the underhood improvements that seem to get me better battery life, faster boot/resume times, and a generally more responsive and fluid user experience.
Not saying it's perfect. For example, allowing split screen only by thirds in the metro UI is dumb, imo. Especially with widescreen displays.
Still, the only thing I feel like we miss out on with our Zenbook is that it's not a convertible. Until Win8 I generally thought the idea of using touch alongside a full desktop OS was gimmicky. Now I wish I had a touchscreen.
Fair enough, perhaps some people might be fine with it, but I woulnd't even consider recommending it to family or friends, because I know there would be a lot of confused frustrated people asking me for help.
Fair enough, perhaps some people might be fine with it, but I woulnd't even consider recommending it to family or friends, because I know there would be a lot of confused frustrated people asking me for help.
because I know there would be a lot of confused frustrated people asking me for help.
The point is that you need a reason TO upgrade, not that you need reasons NOT to upgrade. There are very few reasons to upgrade, and a lot of reasons not to. Thus, for most people it would be foolish to upgrade. That's why MS is practically giving it away.
There is zero reason not to. It's faster, smarter when merging files, gives you a more powerful task manager, even uses the same drivers as WIndows 7 (minus a few that are built in and you need to uninstall prior to the upgrade).
Metro is not a reason to avoid WIndows 8 because that is not necessary to even touch on the desktop. You don't even have to see it. You can boot right to desktop.
There are one or two ways. What I did, was entered, in Windows explorer,
Programdata - Microsoft - Windows - Start menu - Programs.
There I created my folders (My example - Entertainment - Office - Internet - Photo. etc..)
Each of these I right clicked and pinned to the start menu. I then dragged my programs into the appropriate folder.
You can also arrange you shortcuts into the required groups. Click the small minus sign, bottom right.
In the small picture you then see, right click each group and you will have an option n to name the group(s)
How to create a folder and put app shortcuts in the Windows 8 start menu.
Here's what I mean by smarter merging of folders. It's more streamlined and seems to understand what you're doing more easily. No need to click "do this for the next xx conflicts"
I think that is what I'm thinking of. its when you copy a folder with subfolders into another folder with subfolders, and it tells you folders have the same name, and then only gives youy options to overwrite everything or do nothing. I want the chance to tell it which files to overwrite or to just copy the files that aren't already in the target folder.
This has annoyed me for years! Why does it take them so long to fix such things, eh?
Well, it works now. You can just let it replace everything, skip the duplicates, or it will allow you to pick and choose each one.
How about that adding a folder to the start menu? Works pretty nicely.
Thanks for the link, that's some interesting information on some of the aspects of Win 8 that might not be known.
From an everyday use perspective though, the functionality and UI are king, and Win 8 fails horribly in both those departments.
Looks like Win 8 is just the gimpy first step towards a much better future OS.
3) it's still a joke complaint about icon spacing because I can pretty much guarantee it's not there because aero is gone and we knew that for a long time. Most of those adjustments affect aero.
One fact i'm sure we can all agree on, is the fact for average joe, the shutdown menu isn't intuitive to figure out by any means. I think a shutdown icon itself in the charms menu would be more appropriate than hidden within charms/settings/power.
shutting down really isn't something that is configurational, its a performing action so doesn't really belong to a settings menu
One fact i'm sure we can all agree on, is the fact for average joe, the shutdown menu isn't intuitive to figure out by any means. I think a shutdown icon itself in the charms menu would be more appropriate than hidden within charms/settings/power.
shutting down really isn't something that is configurational, its a performing action so doesn't really belong to a settings menu
2) How many years have we known IE is inferior yet people still think suddenly it'll be great. It's not, probably never will be. At least not to me. Try it and see on every new version. I do, but then I'm right back to something else. Still, it's not worth complaining because there's Opera, Chrome, Firefox, even Safari and some others if you don't like it.
There is zero reason not to.
The point of Metro is this. If you have Surface RT, Metro on your laptop/ultrabook or desktop can run the same apps and sync. If you have a Tablet you use Metro on it syncs with your desktop so you can interact with things in Metro and sync it back to your mobile device if you want. It's there because it will allow someone to carry over whatever they were doing on the tablet to the office, home, or whatever. I am certain Microsoft didn't put it on the desktop thinking everyone would use it as a Metro only device. That's why the desktop exists
One fact i'm sure we can all agree on, is the fact for average joe, the shutdown menu isn't intuitive to figure out by any means. I think a shutdown icon itself in the charms menu would be more appropriate than hidden within charms/settings/power.
shutting down really isn't something that is configurational, its a performing action so doesn't really belong to a settings menu
That's just plain factually wrong. For one, you have to pay to upgrade. You have to go through the hassle of upgrading. You have to spend time to do the upgrade. You will lose some functionality and features. You will have to get a key to download and install Windows Media Center separately. You will have to boot into the crappy metro ui before you can go to the desktop. You will have to install a third party solution if you want your start button functionality back. Those are all valid reasons not to upgrade.
On the other side of the ledger, there are some good reasons to upgrade, including drive pooling, increased security, a better task manager and so forth.
I understand what the point of metro is, it's MS's attempt to stay relevant as the world moves towards more mobile devices. Personally that does nothing for me because the mobile devices I use have android or ios on them. Thus it really boils down to "is there any good reason to upgrade to 8?", and the answer is a resounding "no" at this point, unless someone has some killer new feature that I'm not aware of yet.
Whats with all the IE10 hate? I have both IE10 and Chrome on my computer, and I prefer IE10 by far. IE10 is much faster than IE9, and slightly faster than Chrome.
It's not there readily available as the control panels aren't because it's trying to limit how much someone with very little computer skills can mess with on the PC. Those who want it can always find it and will know how to search for the solution to obtain the desired functionality, but for Grandma she doesn't need to log out or access the administrative tools the like. Shut down? I've never shuit down my PC since I built it.
wat? If anyone's grandma just leaves the desktop on till it suspends itself then all I can say is how wasteful, less she folds or something. Either way, it doesn't belong under settings. That is like exiting a video game by going into a main menu first, then clicking on Configurations, then Exit. Exit being a non configurational operation.