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mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
48,920
46
91
Originally posted by: Cold Steel
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Cold Steel
Seriously, is there anyone left who really thinks the plane won't take off?

only person will be smackdown. but i figuer he is just a troll and really nto that fricken stupid.


I'm not so sure about that.

There are plenty of people who will never give up believing that the plane can take off, because they impose constraints that cannot exist in the physical world. Thus their "version" can never be disproved in their minds.
 

cubby1223

Lifer
May 24, 2004
13,518
42
86
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: cubby1223
I don't get it. Wasn't the debate about when the plane is the same speed as the conveyor belt? The plane was clearly moving faster than the conveyor belt before it took off. So of course it took off.

The rest of the myth, I really don't care about except I see everyone here argue it. But I mean, how did the mythbusters prove anything? Both the toy plane and the real plane were traveling faster than the conveyor belts.

the whole concept has flown completely over your head ...

the plane was not going faster than the conveyor belt ...

Well, I apologize that I never gave this situation any thought until an hour ago, I never read any of the long debates of the past. I wasn't even paying that close attention to the episode. But yeah, the plane's speed would be pretty much independent of whatever the treadmill underneath is doing.
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
21,330
1
81
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Cold Steel
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Cold Steel
Seriously, is there anyone left who really thinks the plane won't take off?

only person will be smackdown. but i figuer he is just a troll and really nto that fricken stupid.


I'm not so sure about that.

There are plenty of people who will never give up believing that the plane can take off, because they impose constraints that cannot exist in the physical world. Thus their "version" can never be disproved in their minds.

:music: Don't stop believin' :music:
 

Tweak155

Lifer
Sep 23, 2003
11,448
262
126
Originally posted by: Cold Steel
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Cold Steel
Seriously, is there anyone left who really thinks the plane won't take off?

only person will be smackdown. but i figuer he is just a troll and really nto that fricken stupid.


I'm not so sure about that.

That Spidey07 or whatever was pretty adament too.
 

KK

Lifer
Jan 2, 2001
15,903
4
81
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: cubby1223
I don't get it. Wasn't the debate about when the plane is the same speed as the conveyor belt? The plane was clearly moving faster than the conveyor belt before it took off. So of course it took off.

that is the point, there is nothing to keep the plane from moving faster, the belt is irrelevent

Disclaimer: I didn't see the episode.
If I reading this whole conyeror belt matching the forward velocity correctly, then the plane would not go foward at all. There is a tiny bit of downward pressure in relation to the forward thrust. You would know this by turning on the belt without the plane powered up. the plane will roll backwards with the belt indicating there is downward pressure therefore the belt has some sort of relevance. The problem with this myth is that no real conveyor belt could not physically keep up with the thrust therefore the whole thing is debunked.
 

Tweak155

Lifer
Sep 23, 2003
11,448
262
126
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Cold Steel
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Cold Steel
Seriously, is there anyone left who really thinks the plane won't take off?

only person will be smackdown. but i figuer he is just a troll and really nto that fricken stupid.


I'm not so sure about that.

There are plenty of people who will never give up believing that the plane can take off, because they impose constraints that cannot exist in the physical world. Thus their "version" can never be disproved in their minds.

:music: Don't stop believin' :music:


Whooo oooooo whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

Throckmorton

Lifer
Aug 23, 2007
16,829
3
0
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: cubby1223
I don't get it. Wasn't the debate about when the plane is the same speed as the conveyor belt? The plane was clearly moving faster than the conveyor belt before it took off. So of course it took off.

that is the point, there is nothing to keep the plane from moving faster, the belt is irrelevent

Disclaimer: I didn't see the episode.
If I reading this whole conyeror belt matching the forward velocity correctly, then the plane would not go foward at all. There is a tiny bit of downward pressure in relation to the forward thrust. You would know this by turning on the belt without the plane powered up. the plane will roll backwards with the belt indicating there is downward pressure therefore the belt has some sort of relevance. The problem with this myth is that no real conveyor belt could not physically keep up with the thrust therefore the whole thing is debunked.

The myth doesn't say that the conveyor belt keeps up with thrust. It says that it goes backward at the same speed as the plane moves forward.
 

FoBoT

No Lifer
Apr 30, 2001
63,082
12
76
fobot.com
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: cubby1223
I don't get it. Wasn't the debate about when the plane is the same speed as the conveyor belt? The plane was clearly moving faster than the conveyor belt before it took off. So of course it took off.

that is the point, there is nothing to keep the plane from moving faster, the belt is irrelevent

Disclaimer: I didn't see the episode.
If I reading this whole conyeror belt matching the forward velocity correctly, then the plane would not go foward at all. There is a tiny bit of downward pressure in relation to the forward thrust. You would know this by turning on the belt without the plane powered up. the plane will roll backwards with the belt indicating there is downward pressure therefore the belt has some sort of relevance. The problem with this myth is that no real conveyor belt could not physically keep up with the thrust therefore the whole thing is debunked.

except that isn't how it works and the airplane took off
 

Rubycon

Madame President
Aug 10, 2005
17,768
485
126
Originally posted by: zoiks
haha. I can't believe people are still arguing over this.

And even sadder is they had to wait and watch an episode of Mythbusters. -disgust-
 

CorCentral

Banned
Feb 11, 2001
6,415
1
0
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: FoBoT
all morans should now self ban

The real morans are the ones who dealt with 59 minutes of BS from a Mythbusters episode to watch the part everyone cared about.



<----Moran, apparently.

Dude, did you see that foam? FOAM man. FRIGGIN' FOAM! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

I could have told you that. Great Stuff is crazy enough. the industrial foams are just nuts.

We've had cans of Great Stuff puncture at work. It's fun to watch it, but cleaning it up is a bitch.


so what happened? i missed the foam part.

it just expand to a silly amount or what?

It expands at something like 10:1 and then hardens. They put 15 gallons of the industrial stuff in a car and then it expanded.


Actually, it was 25 gallons. 5x five gallon buckets

Too bad the Mods won't ban the people that were wrong on the plane/treadmill deal for a week, that would've been grand.

 

Jawo

Diamond Member
Jun 15, 2005
4,125
0
0
I don't get how people could have thought the plane doesn't take off....has no one realized that the wheels just keep the airplane's body off the ground? A plane depends on lift generated by the wings not torque to the wheels!!!
 

imported_Baloo

Golden Member
Feb 2, 2006
1,782
0
0
Originally posted by: KK


Disclaimer: I didn't see the episode.
If I reading this whole conyeror belt matching the forward velocity correctly, then the plane would not go foward at all. There is a tiny bit of downward pressure in relation to the forward thrust. You would know this by turning on the belt without the plane powered up. the plane will roll backwards with the belt indicating there is downward pressure therefore the belt has some sort of relevance. The problem with this myth is that no real conveyor belt could not physically keep up with the thrust therefore the whole thing is debunked.

LOL. Talk about not paying attention. Here's a clue - THE PLANE TOOK OFF!!!!

Oh, and it did not roll backward - IT TOOK OFF!!! - indicating that the treadmill lacked relevance.

Now shut up until you've watched the episode, and enroll in some physics classes - you seem to lack an understanding of some basic principals of physics.
 

KK

Lifer
Jan 2, 2001
15,903
4
81
Originally posted by: Baloo
Originally posted by: KK


Disclaimer: I didn't see the episode.
If I reading this whole conyeror belt matching the forward velocity correctly, then the plane would not go foward at all. There is a tiny bit of downward pressure in relation to the forward thrust. You would know this by turning on the belt without the plane powered up. the plane will roll backwards with the belt indicating there is downward pressure therefore the belt has some sort of relevance. The problem with this myth is that no real conveyor belt could not physically keep up with the thrust therefore the whole thing is debunked.

LOL. Talk about not paying attention. Here's a clue - THE PLANE TOOK OFF!!!!

Oh, and it did not roll backward - IT TOOK OFF!!! - indicating that the treadmill lacked relevance.

Now shut up until you've watched the episode, and enroll in some physics classes - you seem to lack an understanding of some basic principals of physics.

Hey dumbshit gimp, sorry that just feels better to say , per what throckmorton said above I have no problem with the plane taking off. If you had read what I wrote you would understand what I was saying. Let me spell this out for you once again if it helps you understand the difference between my scenerio and evidently mythbusters. Mine is the belt working to offset the forward velocity. theirs, from what throckmorton said is the the belt matching the speed of the plane moving forward. See the difference yet? Their's, the plane will take off. If my was physically possible, which it isn't, the plane wouldn't move forward thus it wouldn't.

Understand yet?
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
34,543
651
126
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Baloo
Originally posted by: KK


Disclaimer: I didn't see the episode.
If I reading this whole conyeror belt matching the forward velocity correctly, then the plane would not go foward at all. There is a tiny bit of downward pressure in relation to the forward thrust. You would know this by turning on the belt without the plane powered up. the plane will roll backwards with the belt indicating there is downward pressure therefore the belt has some sort of relevance. The problem with this myth is that no real conveyor belt could not physically keep up with the thrust therefore the whole thing is debunked.

LOL. Talk about not paying attention. Here's a clue - THE PLANE TOOK OFF!!!!

Oh, and it did not roll backward - IT TOOK OFF!!! - indicating that the treadmill lacked relevance.

Now shut up until you've watched the episode, and enroll in some physics classes - you seem to lack an understanding of some basic principals of physics.

Hey dumbshit gimp, sorry that just feels better to say , per what throckmorton said above I have no problem with the plane taking off. If you had read what I wrote you would understand what I was saying. Let me spell this out for you once again if it helps you understand the difference between my scenerio and evidently mythbusters. Mine is the belt working to offset the forward velocity. theirs, from what throckmorton said is the the belt matching the speed of the plane moving forward. See the difference yet? Their's, the plane will take off. If my was physically possible, which it isn't, the plane wouldn't move forward thus it wouldn't.

Understand yet?

Then you're making-up a new myth b/c the current myth is not what you're talking about.
 

CorCentral

Banned
Feb 11, 2001
6,415
1
0
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Baloo
Originally posted by: KK


Disclaimer: I didn't see the episode.
If I reading this whole conyeror belt matching the forward velocity correctly, then the plane would not go foward at all. There is a tiny bit of downward pressure in relation to the forward thrust. You would know this by turning on the belt without the plane powered up. the plane will roll backwards with the belt indicating there is downward pressure therefore the belt has some sort of relevance. The problem with this myth is that no real conveyor belt could not physically keep up with the thrust therefore the whole thing is debunked.

LOL. Talk about not paying attention. Here's a clue - THE PLANE TOOK OFF!!!!

Oh, and it did not roll backward - IT TOOK OFF!!! - indicating that the treadmill lacked relevance.

Now shut up until you've watched the episode, and enroll in some physics classes - you seem to lack an understanding of some basic principals of physics.

Hey dumbshit gimp, sorry that just feels better to say , per what throckmorton said above I have no problem with the plane taking off. If you had read what I wrote you would understand what I was saying. Let me spell this out for you once again if it helps you understand the difference between my scenerio and evidently mythbusters. Mine is the belt working to offset the forward velocity. theirs, from what throckmorton said is the the belt matching the speed of the plane moving forward. See the difference yet? Their's, the plane will take off. If my was physically possible, which it isn't, the plane wouldn't move forward thus it wouldn't.

Understand yet?


You said it yourself. No need to delve into impossibilities now, is there?
You lost. Self Ban for 1mth 4 Joo!




 

KK

Lifer
Jan 2, 2001
15,903
4
81
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Baloo
Originally posted by: KK


Disclaimer: I didn't see the episode.
If I reading this whole conyeror belt matching the forward velocity correctly, then the plane would not go foward at all. There is a tiny bit of downward pressure in relation to the forward thrust. You would know this by turning on the belt without the plane powered up. the plane will roll backwards with the belt indicating there is downward pressure therefore the belt has some sort of relevance. The problem with this myth is that no real conveyor belt could not physically keep up with the thrust therefore the whole thing is debunked.

LOL. Talk about not paying attention. Here's a clue - THE PLANE TOOK OFF!!!!

Oh, and it did not roll backward - IT TOOK OFF!!! - indicating that the treadmill lacked relevance.

Now shut up until you've watched the episode, and enroll in some physics classes - you seem to lack an understanding of some basic principals of physics.

Hey dumbshit gimp, sorry that just feels better to say , per what throckmorton said above I have no problem with the plane taking off. If you had read what I wrote you would understand what I was saying. Let me spell this out for you once again if it helps you understand the difference between my scenerio and evidently mythbusters. Mine is the belt working to offset the forward velocity. theirs, from what throckmorton said is the the belt matching the speed of the plane moving forward. See the difference yet? Their's, the plane will take off. If my was physically possible, which it isn't, the plane wouldn't move forward thus it wouldn't.

Understand yet?

Then you're making-up a new myth b/c the current myth is not what you're talking about.

And this is where the no take off people are getting messed up, at least I hope it is. They are thinking along the lines that the belt is working against the plane forward movement, not based on the forward speed of the plane.
 

PurdueRy

Lifer
Nov 12, 2004
13,837
4
0
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Baloo
Originally posted by: KK


Disclaimer: I didn't see the episode.
If I reading this whole conyeror belt matching the forward velocity correctly, then the plane would not go foward at all. There is a tiny bit of downward pressure in relation to the forward thrust. You would know this by turning on the belt without the plane powered up. the plane will roll backwards with the belt indicating there is downward pressure therefore the belt has some sort of relevance. The problem with this myth is that no real conveyor belt could not physically keep up with the thrust therefore the whole thing is debunked.

LOL. Talk about not paying attention. Here's a clue - THE PLANE TOOK OFF!!!!

Oh, and it did not roll backward - IT TOOK OFF!!! - indicating that the treadmill lacked relevance.

Now shut up until you've watched the episode, and enroll in some physics classes - you seem to lack an understanding of some basic principals of physics.

Hey dumbshit gimp, sorry that just feels better to say , per what throckmorton said above I have no problem with the plane taking off. If you had read what I wrote you would understand what I was saying. Let me spell this out for you once again if it helps you understand the difference between my scenerio and evidently mythbusters. Mine is the belt working to offset the forward velocity. theirs, from what throckmorton said is the the belt matching the speed of the plane moving forward. See the difference yet? Their's, the plane will take off. If my was physically possible, which it isn't, the plane wouldn't move forward thus it wouldn't.

Understand yet?

Then you're making-up a new myth b/c the current myth is not what you're talking about.

And this is where the no take off people are getting messed up, at least I hope it is. They are thinking along the lines that the belt is working against the plane forward movement, not based on the forward speed of the plane.

All they have to do is read the question. It makes no mention of stopping forward movement of the plane. It simply says that it goes backward at the rate the plane moves forward. So, any further assumptions are their own and WRONG.
 

KK

Lifer
Jan 2, 2001
15,903
4
81
Originally posted by: PurdueRy


All they have to do is read the question. It makes no mention of stopping forward movement of the plane. It simply says that it goes backward at the rate the plane moves forward. So, any further assumptions are their own and WRONG.

Where may one find the original question. How do we know that what the current question is how it was originally worded.
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
21,330
1
81
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: PurdueRy


All they have to do is read the question. It makes no mention of stopping forward movement of the plane. It simply says that it goes backward at the rate the plane moves forward. So, any further assumptions are their own and WRONG.

Where may one find the original question. How do we know that what the current question is how it was originally worded.

Well if you would've asked me, I would've told you. Now you can forget about it :|
 

KK

Lifer
Jan 2, 2001
15,903
4
81
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: PurdueRy


All they have to do is read the question. It makes no mention of stopping forward movement of the plane. It simply says that it goes backward at the rate the plane moves forward. So, any further assumptions are their own and WRONG.

Where may one find the original question. How do we know that what the current question is how it was originally worded.

Well if you would've asked me, I would've told you. Now you can forget about it :|

you start all this shit? bastard
 
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