N.J. Principal Unapologetic for Videotape of Kids Praising Obama

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Double Trouble

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That's some scary stuff. Insert Kim Jong Il instead of Obama, and it looks exactly like one would imagine the kids in North Korea being taught to adore the dear leader.

That said, this is not the administration's doing, it's the crazy followers that do this kind of crap. The teacher and anyone else involved with this should be fired immediately.
 

Cuda1447

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
I hate it when our educational system is used for some people's personal platform. Surely some idiot in administration or even a teacher who has an infatuation with Obama thought this would be a good idea. Yeah, lets have the kids sing a song about Obama using his campaign slogans. This isnt how our country is and should be run. We should have a natural skepticism towards govt and authority.

Yeah not to smart, if they had any common sense they'd realize that Obama's foes would jump on this and use it to demean him, his administration and those who support him just like Faux News, Amused and others in this thread have done.

This is proof you are a biased hack. No matter what, regardless of your opinions on Obama, you shouldn't be supportive of kids at a very young age being taught to sing praise to a man they know very little of and are not capable of formulating an educating opinion on. This is BULLSHIT. Children should not be taught to sing about Bush, Clinton, Gore, Obama, Palin, Biden or any other politician. Just like they shouldn't sing about God, Allah, or Buddah. These are things that should be left out of school. Let them sing about mathematics, or the theory of gravity. This is bullshit.


You would NEVER admit that though. No matter what, NO MATTER WHAT, you will always defend Obama and deflect blame.

Oh btw, no one is attacking Obama. He did nothing wrong. This is idiot administrators/teachers at this school. You wouldn't realize this though, you hear the word Obama and go into ultra-defense mode. Come on man, really?
 

Double Trouble

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Originally posted by: dahunan
I still don't see the Epic Scary... *shrug .. look at all the nutjob Catholics who were told by their leaders that to vote for John Kerry would be a vote against their God /antichrist

Too bad people didn't get this worked up when Colin Powell was telling outright lies pre-murder of Iraqis

Uh... "not job" Catholics told by their leaders are adults and can formulate their own opinions. I don't care what "their leaders" say to them, but I most definitely am 100% opposed to any kind of religious proselytizing to kids in public school.

If these Obama cultists want to start a private Dear Leader Obama academy and sing such idiotic songs all day, that's fine with me, but don't subject children in public school to that crap. The people involved should be fired.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Red is correct!
IMO it was staged. Just for this very purpose....
The funny thing is where did the cameras comne from if it was not staged??

Maybe you missed the fact that this event was allegedly acknowledged by the school's Superintendent? So after the fact somebody reported it to the Superintendant....seems reasonable to me that they would report a staged event to the people in charge!!


I haven't been able to find the letter from a reputable site, so maybe you're right... or not? Who knows...
Dear Burlington Township Families:

Today we became aware of a video that was placed on the internet which has been reported in the media.

The video is of a class of students singing a song about President Obama. The activity took place during Black History Month in 2009, which is recognized each February to honor the contributions of African Americans to our country. Our curriculum studies, honors and recognizes those who serve our country.

The recording and distribution of the class activity were unauthorized.

If you have any further questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me or Dr. King, Principal of B. Bernice Young School, directly.

Sincerely,
Dr. Christopher M. Manno,
Superintendent of Schools
Even if this was actually part of their Black History Month, I still do not think it's right. The lyrics are too far over the top to be acceptable in a public school. (Please remember that I voted for Obama as well).

PS: On another note, their principal happens to be named "Dr. King"... that's wild!

 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
I hate it when our educational system is used for some people's personal platform. Surely some idiot in administration or even a teacher who has an infatuation with Obama thought this would be a good idea. Yeah, lets have the kids sing a song about Obama using his campaign slogans. This isnt how our country is and should be run. We should have a natural skepticism towards govt and authority.

Yeah not to smart, if they had any common sense they'd realize that Obama's foes would jump on this and use it to demean him, his administration and those who support him just like Faux News, Amused and others in this thread have done.

This is proof you are a biased hack. No matter what, regardless of your opinions on Obama, you shouldn't be supportive of kids at a very young age being taught to sing praise to a man they know very little of and are not capable of formulating an educating opinion on. This is BULLSHIT. Children should not be taught to sing about Bush, Clinton, Gore, Obama, Palin, Biden or any other politician. Just like they shouldn't sing about God, Allah, or Buddah. These are things that should be left out of school. Let them sing about mathematics, or the theory of gravity. This is bullshit.

You would NEVER admit that though. No matter what, NO MATTER WHAT, you will always defend Obama and deflect blame.

Oh btw, no one is attacking Obama. He did nothing wrong. This is idiot administrators/teachers at this school. You wouldn't realize this though, you hear the word Obama and go into ultra-defense mode. Come on man, really?

Cuda your still a nutcase....
The administration or the Government had nothing to do with this....
At worse an over zealous Obama supporter did not use good judgement.....
At best it was staged and recorded and put on your tube...
Interesting how a camera shows up...where did the camera come from if it was not staged???
So where did the camera come from?? Why was it put on you tube?
 

Cuda1447

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
I hate it when our educational system is used for some people's personal platform. Surely some idiot in administration or even a teacher who has an infatuation with Obama thought this would be a good idea. Yeah, lets have the kids sing a song about Obama using his campaign slogans. This isnt how our country is and should be run. We should have a natural skepticism towards govt and authority.

Yeah not to smart, if they had any common sense they'd realize that Obama's foes would jump on this and use it to demean him, his administration and those who support him just like Faux News, Amused and others in this thread have done.

This is proof you are a biased hack. No matter what, regardless of your opinions on Obama, you shouldn't be supportive of kids at a very young age being taught to sing praise to a man they know very little of and are not capable of formulating an educating opinion on. This is BULLSHIT. Children should not be taught to sing about Bush, Clinton, Gore, Obama, Palin, Biden or any other politician. Just like they shouldn't sing about God, Allah, or Buddah. These are things that should be left out of school. Let them sing about mathematics, or the theory of gravity. This is bullshit.

You would NEVER admit that though. No matter what, NO MATTER WHAT, you will always defend Obama and deflect blame.

Oh btw, no one is attacking Obama. He did nothing wrong. This is idiot administrators/teachers at this school. You wouldn't realize this though, you hear the word Obama and go into ultra-defense mode. Come on man, really?

Cuda your still a nutcase....
The administration or the Government had nothing to do with this....
At worse an over zealous Obama supporter did not use good judgement.....
At best it was staged and recorded and put on your tube...
Interesting how a camera shows up...where did the camera come from if it was not staged???
So where did the camera come from?? Why was it put on you tube?



Its you're.... and I think YOU are the nutcase. Did you even read what I wrote? I said it had nothing to do with Obama or his Administration. This is simply some dumbasses trying to indoctrinate kids. What I am saying though, is those defending these actions are doing so SIMPLY because Obama is involved. They are pro-obama no matter what the hell it is. It proves their biased hackery and inability to look at ANYTHING involving Obama remotely fairly.

Again, Obama and his admin have done nothing wrong. Stupid people that love Obama have though.

As for the staging of the event, camera etc.... I could really care less. The entire reason I posted in this thread was to show that my friend Red Dawn could not look at anything involving Obama objectively.
 

Amused

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Update:

N.J. Principal Unapologetic for Videotape of Kids Praising Obama, Parents Say
The principal of a New Jersey elementary school where young students were videotaped singing the praises of President Obama is making no apologies for the videotape and says she would allow the performance again if she could, according to parents who spoke with her Thursday night.

A yearbook photograph shows Dr. Denise King, right, prinicipal of B. Bernice Young Elementary School, attending the inauguration of President Obama on Jan. 20. (FOXNews.com)

The principal of a New Jersey elementary school where young students were videotaped singing the praises of President Obama is making no apologies for the videotape and says she would allow the performance again if she could, according to parents who spoke with her Thursday night.

Three parents told FOXNews.com that Dr. Denise King, principal of B. Bernice Young Elementary School in Burlington, N.J., defended the controversial performance, which was videotaped and posted on YouTube, when they approached her during a "Back to School" event.

Parent Jim Angelillo said King told him the lesson was merely part of Black History month, and not an attempt to indoctrinate students, as critics have charged. He said he believes teachers have the freedom to express their political views, but not in the classroom.

"Freedom of speech, not freedom to teach," Angelillo told FOXNews.com.

King has long been a fan of Obama, hanging pictures of the president in her school's hallways and touting her trip to his inauguration in the school yearbook.

Included in the full-page yearbook spread were Obama campaign slogans ("Yes we can! Yes we did!") and photos King took in Washington on Jan. 20, when she attended the inauguration.


There also were photos taken at the school depicting students doing Obama-themed activities about their "hopes for the future," featuring posters of Obama. According to the yearbook, students watched the inauguration in class.

Parents said Elvira James, the teacher of the class that was videotaped, also seemed to be promoting Obama.

"She praised him, she put pictures on the walls," said Jim Pronchick, whose 8-year-old son, Jimmy, was in James' class last year. "When he won (the election) they really went off."

Leslie Gibson, who has two children at the school, said she was "shocked" at the videotape, adding that political beliefs, like religious views, should be kept at home. She also said King made a "big deal" about her attendance at the inauguration.

"Throughout the school, there were signs posted supporting Barack Obama quite a bit," Gibson told FOXNews.com. "I understand it's a historical event, but on the same token, I like politics to be left at home and I think she should follow that as well."

Attempts to reach King on Friday were unsuccessful. A recording at the school said its mailbox was full and could not accept new messages.

A search of public records revealed that King, 46, of Cinnaminson, N.J., last voted in 2004 and had not declared any political affiliation. No records of political contributions could be found.

In November, the 9,700-plus residents of Burlington, N.J., a Philadelphia suburb, voted overwhelming for Obama, who received 3,285 votes to Sen. John McCain's 1,308.

The controversy over the YouTube video extended into northwest Arkansas on Friday, as officials at the Bernice Young Elementary School in Springdale said they had been received calls from across the country and Canada from irate parents and other individuals.

Principal Debbie Flora told the Associated Press that the callers claimed the school was teaching political opinion and that some "did not use very kind language."

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...-long-obama-supporter/
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
I hate it when our educational system is used for some people's personal platform. Surely some idiot in administration or even a teacher who has an infatuation with Obama thought this would be a good idea. Yeah, lets have the kids sing a song about Obama using his campaign slogans. This isnt how our country is and should be run. We should have a natural skepticism towards govt and authority.

Yeah not to smart, if they had any common sense they'd realize that Obama's foes would jump on this and use it to demean him, his administration and those who support him just like Faux News, Amused and others in this thread have done.

This is proof you are a biased hack. No matter what, regardless of your opinions on Obama, you shouldn't be supportive of kids at a very young age being taught to sing praise to a man they know very little of and are not capable of formulating an educating opinion on. This is BULLSHIT. Children should not be taught to sing about Bush, Clinton, Gore, Obama, Palin, Biden or any other politician. Just like they shouldn't sing about God, Allah, or Buddah. These are things that should be left out of school. Let them sing about mathematics, or the theory of gravity. This is bullshit.


You would NEVER admit that though. No matter what, NO MATTER WHAT, you will always defend Obama and deflect blame.

Oh btw, no one is attacking Obama. He did nothing wrong. This is idiot administrators/teachers at this school. You wouldn't realize this though, you hear the word Obama and go into ultra-defense mode. Come on man, really?
Calm down you paranoid little ground squirrel, no where did I say I supported this. Now climb back into your little borough and chill:roll:

 

Pens1566

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused

Come on, Red. If this story was about Bush you'd be all over it. Instead you're attempting to minimize it like the rest of the partisan pricks here.

She's touring the country with this crap, and holding what amounts to political rallies in schools and children's centers and no one is stopping her.

I can tell you no matter what party the president is from, this story would piss me off.
If it was a directive from the Dept of Education it would piss me off. That said it's up to the children's parents to put a stop to this.

Exactly. If your kids are "brainwashed" by this you're a shitty parent.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused

Come on, Red. If this story was about Bush you'd be all over it. Instead you're attempting to minimize it like the rest of the partisan pricks here.

She's touring the country with this crap, and holding what amounts to political rallies in schools and children's centers and no one is stopping her.

I can tell you no matter what party the president is from, this story would piss me off.
If it was a directive from the Dept of Education it would piss me off. That said it's up to the children's parents to put a stop to this.

Exactly. If your kids are "brainwashed" by this you're a shitty parent.

That's funny. I wonder if you'd say the same thing if they were pushing religion in the school?
 

GuitarDaddy

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OMG! Someone is praising the president, and to school children no less!!!! It's a communist conspiracy of epic nature, how dare anyone praise this racist marxist beast, he wern't even born round here, get a rope
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
OMG! Someone is praising the president, and to school children no less!!!! It's a communist conspiracy of epic nature, how dare anyone praise this racist marxist beast, he wern't even born round here, get a rope

It's really amazing how biased people are. Were this a republican, or worse yet, her preaching and teaching religion, you'd blow a gasket.

Teachers are to remain politically and religiously neutral. Period.
 

Pens1566

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused

Come on, Red. If this story was about Bush you'd be all over it. Instead you're attempting to minimize it like the rest of the partisan pricks here.

She's touring the country with this crap, and holding what amounts to political rallies in schools and children's centers and no one is stopping her.

I can tell you no matter what party the president is from, this story would piss me off.
If it was a directive from the Dept of Education it would piss me off. That said it's up to the children's parents to put a stop to this.

Exactly. If your kids are "brainwashed" by this you're a shitty parent.

That's funny. I wonder if you'd say the same thing if they were pushing religion in the school?

Well, one is an issue of constitutionality while the other is not. I'll let you figure out which is which.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused

Come on, Red. If this story was about Bush you'd be all over it. Instead you're attempting to minimize it like the rest of the partisan pricks here.

She's touring the country with this crap, and holding what amounts to political rallies in schools and children's centers and no one is stopping her.

I can tell you no matter what party the president is from, this story would piss me off.
If it was a directive from the Dept of Education it would piss me off. That said it's up to the children's parents to put a stop to this.

Exactly. If your kids are "brainwashed" by this you're a shitty parent.

That's funny. I wonder if you'd say the same thing if they were pushing religion in the school?

Well, one is an issue of constitutionality while the other is not. I'll let you figure out which is which.

Wrong. The answer is not "which", because the answer is neither.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused

Come on, Red. If this story was about Bush you'd be all over it. Instead you're attempting to minimize it like the rest of the partisan pricks here.

She's touring the country with this crap, and holding what amounts to political rallies in schools and children's centers and no one is stopping her.

I can tell you no matter what party the president is from, this story would piss me off.
If it was a directive from the Dept of Education it would piss me off. That said it's up to the children's parents to put a stop to this.

Exactly. If your kids are "brainwashed" by this you're a shitty parent.

That's funny. I wonder if you'd say the same thing if they were pushing religion in the school?

Well, one is an issue of constitutionality while the other is not. I'll let you figure out which is which.

Constitutionality has nothing to do with my question.

Ethically, schools are to remian politically neutral.

And you KNOW you'd be having a fit right now were this a republican. Don't even try to lie.

I din't have to swing at anything. You never pitched.
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
It smacks too much of totalitarian nations and their indoctrination. Re-education camps next?
Please, do tell us about your experience with totalitarian regimes.

On a side note, I remember the good old days when I was in elementary school. HWBush was president. We would begin each day by reciting the [mangled] words of the Socialist Francis Bellamy:

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands: one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
I remember going home after school, unable to wash off the stench of socialism and indoctrination from my clothes.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Amused
It smacks too much of totalitarian nations and their indoctrination. Re-education camps next?
Please, do tell us about your experience with totalitarian regimes.

On a side note, I remember the good old days when I was in elementary school. HWBush was president. We would begin each day by reciting the [mangled] words of the Socialist Francis Bellamy:

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands: one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
I remember going home after school, unable to wash off the stench of socialism and indoctrination from my clothes.

Very weak.
 

Red Dawn

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Ok, I can totally understand why it would bother people as it reeks of the "Dear Leader" BS indoctrination you see in countries like NK. The main difference is that it's not state sponsored or mandated. If and when that happens I'll complain as loudly as some of you wingnuts are doing now.

Again let me say that I think it's a stupid idea and I'm pretty sire Obama team isn't all that thrilled about it. If they aren't they should be as it just feeds directly into the BS paranoia that assholes like Beck and his ilk are spouting.
 

Pens1566

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused

Come on, Red. If this story was about Bush you'd be all over it. Instead you're attempting to minimize it like the rest of the partisan pricks here.

She's touring the country with this crap, and holding what amounts to political rallies in schools and children's centers and no one is stopping her.

I can tell you no matter what party the president is from, this story would piss me off.
If it was a directive from the Dept of Education it would piss me off. That said it's up to the children's parents to put a stop to this.

Exactly. If your kids are "brainwashed" by this you're a shitty parent.

That's funny. I wonder if you'd say the same thing if they were pushing religion in the school?

Well, one is an issue of constitutionality while the other is not. I'll let you figure out which is which.

Constitutionality has nothing to do with my question.

Ethically, schools are to remian politically neutral.

And you KNOW you'd be having a fit right now were this a republican. Don't even try to lie.

I din't have to swing at anything. You never pitched.

Thats the point ... this case has nothing to do with constitutionality while your made up little scenario of pushing religion has everything to do with it. So now you've come up with another little "what if" to deflect even more.

Actually, I wouldn't give a shit either way. Its a ridiculous topic based on one case. Not nearly worth all the "zomgwtfbbqsocializm" its getting from the nut jobs.
 

GoodRevrnd

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The problem w/ AT P&N is that if you bring attention to any questionable issue the nutjobs from one side are going to decry your concern as irrelevant simply because nutjobs on the other side are foaming at the mouth over the issue. This story is mostly a non-issue, since I doubt this indoctribamanation is really as wide-spread and obvious as this case. At the same time, I think this painfully reflects the type of dumb shit politicizing people try to pull in schools all the time and all you people yelling at Amused pretending "it'll never happen" seriously need to get a clue. I'd say moonbeam's zombie assessment is pretty accurate, however, that doesn't mean we should just let zombies multiply and run wild. Maybe everyone should try thinking for once instead of hiding behind the "he's attacking my guy!" partisan bullshit.

BTW, I like how the press release from the superintendent goes into full damage control mode and tries to hide the whole thing behind the guise of black history month. Give me a break.
 
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