Naked Final Exam

pauldun170

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I'm a strong believer that everyone should take courses outside of their major. College should be more than a job preparation. It should something to broaden your horizons.
However, I know how stubborn and closed minded engineers are so I agree that not many engineers are going to be signing up.
 

Ns1

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given that this is an optional class on performance/body art, not seeing a problem here. oh yeah, the school responded too:

Dr. Jordan Crandall, the chair of the Visual Arts Department, released the following statement on Monday to KGTV. In it, Crandall states that the class is not a requirement for graduation and that students are not required to be nude.

"The concerns of our students are our department's first priority, and I'd like to offer some contextual information that will help answer questions regarding the pedagogy of VIS 104A.

"Removing your clothes is not required in this class. The course is not required for graduation.

"VIS 104A is an upper division class that Professor Dominguez has taught for 11 years. It has a number of prompts for short performances called "gestures." These include "Your Life: With 3 Objects and 3 Sounds" and "Confessional Self," among others. Students are graded on the "Nude/Naked Self" gesture just like all the other gestures. Students are aware from the start of the class that it is a requirement, and that they can do the gesture in any number of ways without actually having to remove their clothes. Dominguez explains this - as does our advising team if concerns are raised with them. There are many ways to perform nudity or nakedness, summoning art history conventions of the nude or laying bare of one's "traumatic" or most fragile and vulnerable self. One can "be" nude while being covered.

"There are many comments from former students that are visible online. These comments clarify the matter quite directly. It is important to listen to students who have actually taken the class. Again, the concerns of our students are our department's first priority."
 

mmntech

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My thoughts on this story:

1. Outraged is a word that's often misused these days, and it outrages me.

2. He claims he informed the class of this requirement at the beginning of the course. Let's assume that's true. Plus, he's taught this course for over a decade using this same exam. So it's unlikely the student did not know what she was getting herself into. She had ample time to drop out without financial penalty if she didn't feel comfortable with the requirements.

3. If you're studying body art, nudity is to be expected.

4. The prof is indeed a perv.

5. This confirms my long held belief that most artists are weirdos. Performance artists especially.
 

tynopik

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so I agree that not many engineers are going to be signing up.

I was thinking more engineering professors requiring their students to be naked for their final exam in advanced semiconductor physics . . .

"You have to prove you can work under pressure and through distraction!"
 

chubbyfatazn

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I was thinking more engineering professors requiring their students to be naked for their final exam in advanced semiconductor physics . . .

"You have to prove you can work under pressure and through distraction!"

Subtle change: get a naked 15/10 model and have her gyrate against a pole at the front of the class.

If they can get through that final...
 

IndyColtsFan

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My thoughts on this story:

1. Outraged is a word that's often misused these days, and it outrages me.

2. He claims he informed the class of this requirement at the beginning of the course. Let's assume that's true. Plus, he's taught this course for over a decade using this same exam. So it's unlikely the student did not know what she was getting herself into. She had ample time to drop out without financial penalty if she didn't feel comfortable with the requirements.

3. If you're studying body art, nudity is to be expected.

4. The prof is indeed a perv.

5. This confirms my long held belief that most artists are weirdos. Performance artists especially.

Yeah, he's a perv and is trying to BS his way through it. Pretty funny. :awe:
 

Obsy

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Big whoop, it's an optional Body Art class. I'm also not seeing how the prof is a perv from the linked articles.
 

Ruptga

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given that this is an optional class on performance/body art, not seeing a problem here. oh yeah, the school responded too:
Again, the concerns of our students are our department's first priority
I'm reading that as "we don't really care what the mom thinks, and our students knew exactly what they were getting into."
 

UglyCasanova

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Pervy weirdo. Likes to get naked with his students and hand out cellphones to illegal immigrants (funded by the gov lol!) as an art project to dissolve the boarder through poetry. :awe:
 

mikeford

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95% of students get an A, yeah, this is a college course. I don't care what the material is, everybody gets an A isn't something that belongs in the for credit category.
 

PieIsAwesome

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“Removing your clothes is not required in this class. The course is not required for graduation.

“VIS 104A is an upper division class that Professor Dominguez has taught for 11 years. It has a number of prompts for short performances called “gestures.” These include "Your Life: With 3 Objects and 3 Sounds" and "Confessional Self," among others. Students are graded on the "Nude/Naked Self" gesture just like all the other gestures. Students are aware from the start of the class that it is a requirement, and that they can do the gesture in any number of ways without actually having to remove their clothes. Dominguez explains this – as does our advising team if concerns are raised with them. There are many ways to perform nudity or nakedness, summoning art history conventions of the nude or laying bare of one's "traumatic" or most fragile and vulnerable self. One can "be" nude while being covered.

LOL "journalists."
 

tynopik

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LOL "journalists."

That's the university's position, apparently the professor's position is different

Dominguez confirmed that students indeed have to be nude to pass the final.

"At the very end of the class, we've done several gestures, they have to nude gesture. The prompt is to speak about or do a gesture or create an installation that says, 'what is more you than you are.'"

He said that 20 students strip down, including him. He calls it a performance of self, in a dark room lit only by candlelight.

"It's a standard canvas for performance art and body art," Dominguez said.

“It is very all controlled," he added.

Dominguez said that students know what to expect from the first day of class.

"If they are uncomfortable with this gesture they should not take the class," Dominguez said bluntly.

Not, "If they are uncomfortable, there are other ways to do the gesture"
 

corwin

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That's the university's position, apparently the professor's position is different



Not, "If they are uncomfortable, there are other ways to do the gesture"

You bolded the wrong parts of that quote...

Dominguez confirmed that students indeed have to be nude to pass the final.

"At the very end of the class, we've done several gestures, they have to nude gesture. The prompt is to speak about or do a gesture or create an installation that says, 'what is more you than you are.'"

He said that 20 students strip down, including him. He calls it a performance of self, in a dark room lit only by candlelight.

"It's a standard canvas for performance art and body art," Dominguez said.

“It is very all controlled," he added.

Dominguez said that students know what to expect from the first day of class.

"If they are uncomfortable with this gesture they should not take the class," Dominguez said bluntly.
Quite clear that talking about something is an option
 
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