Name a band, then list 3 songs you think are essential to their catalog of music

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ProfJohn

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What is with all the U2 hate?

I didn't insult any of your choices, and yet you guys all feel the need to insult my U2 comment?
 

Juddog

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Talk about reading fail... You skipped over everything I said after sales...

NSYNC = 10 million sold

Joshua Tree = 25 million (which is more than NSYNC)
Album of the year
Universally acclaimed as one of the greatest albums in history
I could go on for quite while with all the awards and lists the album or its songs appear on.

Seriously, the comparison is a joke.

BTW why do you feel the need to insult my taste? Did I insult yours?

My point was that the Nysnc album was utter garbage, yet it went 10x platinum. Just because an artist sells a bunch of albums doesn't mean they are the greatest in the world.

You're the one buying into the whole "just because it says so in a magazine, it must be true!" line of bullshit. The U2 album is decent but no way is the best album, and no way are they the best band. You're the one making that claim that it's universally acclaimed as the best album ever, when you started off saying "U2 is the greatest band of the last 30 years", which is utter horseshit. You should have just stuck with naming good songs instead of trying to assert your ego into the thread.
 

ProfJohn

Lifer
Jul 28, 2006
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Is a difference in taste really that hard to comprehend? As much as you love U2, many people dislike them. You can argue album sales and achievements all you want. U2 is for people that don't have any taste in music beyond radio bands/hits. Some people like a little more than generic top 100 radio rock.
I think you are addressing that comment to the wrong person.

I didn't question anyone else's musical opinion. Nor did I insult anyone else's musical choice. And yet the anti-U2 people feel the need to degrade and insult people for liking their music, rather sad.
 

chedrz

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Jimmy Eat World--Goodbye Sky Harbor, Sweetness, 23
Muse--Plug-In Baby, Knights of Cydonia, Starlight
Sick Puppies--Riptide, White Balloons, All The Same
System of a Down--Aerials, Hypnotize, Sugar
 

BrokenVisage

Lifer
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So if I want to introduce my 19 year old nephew who has never heard them do I play the popular songs or the early stuff?

In such a case I would go with the catchiest songs you can find, which would probably jive more with the popular songs a band has than their early stuff necessarily.
 

ProfJohn

Lifer
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In such a case I would go with the catchiest songs you can find, which would probably jive more with the popular songs a band has than their early stuff necessarily.
I disagree.

I would go with the songs that represent who the band is vs the songs that were most popular (although sometimes they are the same songs.) Especially when you talk about groups musical contribution. The three greatest hits of The Police's career came from Synchronicity, but what makes them important to music is their early stuff and how they helped the progression from Punk to New Wave to Synthpop.
 

Juddog

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I think you are addressing that comment to the wrong person.

I didn't question anyone else's musical opinion. Nor did I insult anyone else's musical choice. And yet the anti-U2 people feel the need to degrade and insult people for liking their music, rather sad.

You made a statement stating that they were the best band of the last 30 years. Your defense of the subject is "because they sold a lot of albums, and the music industry told me so, herp derp". Nobody else came out saying their band was the best, but you felt the need to force your ego into the thread, so people responded. Big surprise.

If a thread is going on about different cars that people drive, and I go in and say "HONDA CIVIC IS THE BEST CAR OF ALL TIME!", because it sold the most, then people would be on my ass like white on rice. People just don't like egotistical bastards like yourself, because you turn any basic conversation into a flame war because you can't keep your ego in check.
 

ProfJohn

Lifer
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Springsteen: Born to Run, Adam Raised a Cain, Jungleland
Springsteen: Brilliant Disguise, Tunnel of Love, Human Touch.

Amazing how much he matured as an artists in the last 80s and early 90s.
It is like two completely different artists almost.
 

BrokenVisage

Lifer
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I disagree.

I would go with the songs that represent who the band is vs the songs that were most popular (although sometimes they are the same songs.) Especially when you talk about groups musical contribution. The three greatest hits of The Police's career came from Synchronicity, but what makes them important to music is their early stuff and how they helped the progression from Punk to New Wave to Synthpop.

I know where you're coming from, but I'm if that 19 year old who never heard of a band or any of their music I wouldn't care about their musical contribution or their influence on other bands if I don't even like what I'm listening too. I'd argue (especially with today's youth) that you gotta actually get them interested in listening to someone before they can branch out and start appreciating the early stuff, assuming it's a band that excelled in music making and endured over time to the point where commercially they got much better.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
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I know where you're coming from, but I'm if that 19 year old who never heard of a band or any of their music I wouldn't care about their musical contribution or their influence on other bands if I don't even like what I'm listening too. I'd argue (especially with today's youth) that you gotta actually get them interested in listening to someone before they can branch out and start appreciating the early stuff, assuming it's a band that excelled in music making and endured over time to the point where commercially they got much better.

truth.

listening to the album version of Downward Spiral turned me off from NIN for a LONG time.
 
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BTW why do you feel the need to insult my taste? Did I insult yours?
You may not have directly insulted people's taste, but the following quote is worthy of rebuke: "I don't understand why some people are so enamored by groups most people have never heard of. I am sure they are good and they have their fans. But how do you compare one of the biggest selling groups of all time with Tool or Janes Addiction?"

You use sales numbers as justification for declaring that U2 is a better band than Jane's Addiction or Tool, which is a somewhat spurious distinction when arguing about your opinion over which band is superior. If you choose to define your own musical tastes through what is the most popular based on sales, that's fine, but that might not be a convincing argument to other people. Your subsequent responses seem to indicate that you feel that other people's opinions are wrong since U2 is more popular with a larger fanbase. Well who gives a shit about that when it comes to one person expressing their opinion about a band they enjoy? Why bring it up in the first place? Just because you can't understand how anybody could enjoy something that isn't on a Hot 100 chart doesn't make your opinion any more valid than theirs; it just makes you seem more arrogant.

Back to the topic at hand... It's hard to pick three for Tool, but if Aenima and Lateralus aren't both on the list, then something is wrong.
NIN: Closer, Hurt, Head Like a Hole
Nirvana: Lithium, Heart Shaped Box, Something in the Way
Bowie: Space Oddity, Ziggy Stardust, Man Who Sold the World
Pink Floyd: Have a Cigar, Wish You Were Here, Comfortably Numb
Aesop Rock: Daylight, Dryspell, Holy Smokes
Sage Francis: All Word No Play, Inherited Scars, Makeshift Patriot
 

ProfJohn

Lifer
Jul 28, 2006
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You made a statement stating that they were the best band of the last 30 years. Your defense of the subject is "because they sold a lot of albums, and the music industry told me so, herp derp". Nobody else came out saying their band was the best, but you felt the need to force your ego into the thread, so people responded. Big surprise.

If a thread is going on about different cars that people drive, and I go in and say "HONDA CIVIC IS THE BEST CAR OF ALL TIME!", because it sold the most, then people would be on my ass like white on rice. People just don't like egotistical bastards like yourself, because you turn any basic conversation into a flame war because you can't keep your ego in check.
Seriously? I stated an opinion. You turned around and insulted that opinion.

Who is flaming who?

Which one of us said the others opinion "is utter horseshit"? Who compared the others choice to NSYNC? Who said the others choice was "force-fed commercial top 40 crap" or "Plenty of crap artists"

Have I ever questioned your musical taste? Did I say that my picks were better than yours? Did I feel the need to insult your picks?

And it isn't even MY ego here. Google "greatest rock bands of all time" and see how many times U2 shows up. I suppose if I said that the Beatles were the greatest band in history you would claim it was my ego too?

/argument over U2 and back to the music
 

ProfJohn

Lifer
Jul 28, 2006
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You may not have directly insulted people's taste, but the following quote is worthy of rebuke: "I don't understand why some people are so enamored by groups most people have never heard of. I am sure they are good and they have their fans. But how do you compare one of the biggest selling groups of all time with Tool or Janes Addiction?"
That was a direct response to the following:
I don't understand why some people are so enamored by U2. They are good musicians, certainly, but greatest band of the last 30 years? No way!
I was turning his quote around on him to illustrate how elitist his opinion was.

Like this...
Just because you can't understand how anybody could enjoy something that isn't on a Hot 100 chart doesn't make your opinion any more valid than theirs; it just makes you seem more arrogant.
Just because you can't understand how anybody could enjoy something that is on a Hot 100 chart doesn't make your opinion any more valid than theirs; it just makes you seem more arrogant.


Your subsequent responses seem to indicate that you feel that other people's opinions are wrong since U2 is more popular with a larger fanbase.
I don't question tastes in music or opinion or who they like better. But I think questioning the label of "greatest band of the last 30 years" is kind of foolish. If U2 doesn't own that label then who does?

I don't care for Lady Gaga, but I wouldn't question the fact that she is the most popular artists of the last couple of years. Is she the greatest artist of the past few years? If not her than who is?
 

Ns1

No Lifer
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I don't care for Lady Gaga, but I wouldn't question the fact that she is the most popular artists of the last couple of years. Is she the greatest artist of the past few years? If not her than who is?

GaGa are you fucking forreal? She's just rehashing Madonna for this generation.
 
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The Clash - Brand New Cadillac, The Magnificent Seven, Straight to Hell
The Rolling Stones - Stray Cat Blues, Start Me Up, Hitchhike
The Police - So Lonely, Don't Stand So Close To Me, Walking In Your Footsteps
Led Zeppelin - Kashmir, In My Time of Dying, Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
Genesis - Suppers Ready, Musical Box, The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Pink Floyd - Run Like Hell, Shine On You Crazy Diamond, Echoes
Cream - Politician, Badge, Outside Woman Blues
The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Wild Thing (Monterrey version), Spanish Castle Magic, If A Six Was Nine
 

ProfJohn

Lifer
Jul 28, 2006
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Nirvana: Lithium, Heart Shaped Box, Something in the Way
Bowie: Space Oddity, Ziggy Stardust, Man Who Sold the World
Nirvana: Smells Like Teen Spirit
How do you leave out the song that defined them and their entire musical genre?

Bowie is hard as hell because he changed his style so much. I'd say
Space Oddity - early stuff
Rebel Rebel - mid career
Let's Dance - later stuff, besides being a big hit it is a good song and it really helped Stevie Ray Vaughan get his break. Of course that is just my opinion.
 

ProfJohn

Lifer
Jul 28, 2006
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GaGa are you fucking forreal? She's just rehashing Madonna for this generation.
I completely agree.

But if Gaga is not the greatest artist of the last few years then who is?
Taylor Swift, Black Eyed Peas?

Sadly most of the popular stuff these days tends to suck from a musical POV. And we can't even begin to compare the social aspects of today's music to the past.
 

dank69

Lifer
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I completely agree.

But if Gaga is not the greatest artist of the last few years then who is?
Taylor Swift, Black Eyed Peas?

Sadly most of the popular stuff these days tends to suck from a musical POV. And we can't even begin to compare the social aspects of today's music to the past.
It seems like you think 'most popular' is the same as 'greatest.'
 

gorcorps

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Jul 18, 2004
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I don't understand why some people are so enamored by groups most people have never heard of. I am sure they are good and they have their fans. But how do you compare one of the biggest selling groups of all time with Tool or Janes Addiction?

Sure popularity doesn't always equate to good (see any Michael Bay movie) But when you have sold 150 million albums, have 22 Grammys (more than any other band) and have three of the greatest albums of all times you must be doing something right.

You think Tool is a band nobody has ever heard of? False... so very very false. Are they U2 famous? No, but they get a LOT of radio play on any standard "modern rock" station. Anything that gets radio play like that is quite mainstream and well known.
 
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