Nancy Pelosi Elected Minority Leader

Patranus

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WASHINGTON -- House Democrats have re-elected Nancy Pelosi as their leader in the next Congress.

The closed-door vote Wednesday will let the California congresswoman shift from House speaker to minority leader in January, despite concerns by some Democrats that the party needs new leadership after suffering huge midterm election losses.

Pelosi has refused to take the blame and pinned party's losses on stubbornly high unemployment.

Democrats also quelled a power struggle between lieutenants Steny Hoyer of Maryland and James Clyburn of South Carolina, who vied to be Pelosi's second-in-command. Hoyer was poised to be the Democrats' vote-counting whip, and Clyburn will serve in a newly created position as the House's No. 3 Democrat.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/17/democrats-feud-pelosi-leadership-bid/

LOL - Can't get any better than this.
 
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fskimospy

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I don't know why this would be much of a surprise, she was one of the most powerful and effective speakers in US history, it only stands to reason that she will be an effective minority leader.
 

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Will she act as a rally point for the Dems in a postiive or negative way to the public in 2012?
 

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I don't know why this would be much of a surprise, she was one of the most powerful and effective speakers in US history, it only stands to reason that she will be an effective minority leader.

You claim that she was effective is only accurate if you believe the role of the house of representatives is not to represent the people of particular districts. Yes, she was effective in pushing her "progressive" agenda but she certainly wan't effective at doing her job.
 

thegimp03

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I don't know why this would be much of a surprise, she was one of the most powerful and effective speakers in US history, it only stands to reason that she will be an effective minority leader.

Effective at what? Driving away more moderate dems with her San Francisco mentality?
 

Scotteq

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LOL @ People who think Senators and Congressmen actually strive to represent the wills of the people in their districts.
 

dainthomas

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You claim that she was effective is only accurate if you believe the role of the house of representatives is not to represent the people of particular districts. Yes, she was effective in pushing her "progressive" agenda but she certainly wan't effective at doing her job.

You think she doesn't represent her district well?
 

fskimospy

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Effective at what? Driving away more moderate dems with her San Francisco mentality?

Effective at passing legislation. The purpose of wielding power is to implement policy, not to win the next election. She passed more legislation that changed US policy to a larger extent than any speaker in generations. I would argue she was more successful than any speaker since the Great Society.
 

Patranus

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You think she doesn't represent her district well?

The claim was that she was an effective speaker not congressman.
Yes, she represented her district as a congressman.
No, she did not represent the American people as speaker of the house.
 

fskimospy

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You claim that she was effective is only accurate if you believe the role of the house of representatives is not to represent the people of particular districts. Yes, she was effective in pushing her "progressive" agenda but she certainly wan't effective at doing her job.

A.) She represented her district just fine, B.) if other people didn't, that's their fault, not her.

You don't appear to know what the Speaker's job is. (we'll just add that on to the things you talk about that you don't know) The Speaker's job is to get legislation passed through the House, and she was enormously effective at that.
 

hal2kilo

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A.) She represented her district just fine, B.) if other people didn't, that's their fault, not her.

You don't appear to know what the Speaker's job is. (we'll just add that on to the things you talk about that you don't know) The Speaker's job is to get legislation passed through the House, and she was enormously effective at that.

Don't you know that the Republicans have no ambitions to stay in power and only care for America's best interests?
 

Moonbeam

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The letters N A N C Y P E L O S I create sounds very similar in effect on the brain dead as the sounds Fetch, Sit Up, Roll Over, and such have on dogs. They unleashing a cascade of chemical events in the primitive brain that evoke trained mechanical responses. The only real difference is that in the case of dogs, the dogs have the grace not to imagine they are anything other than stupid compliant tools looking for some affection.
 

Moonbeam

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You think she doesn't represent her district well?

Are you joking. We see her as deeply conservative, which, of course, she is.

You have to understand that there is no real left in America, only left of center centrists and and the brain dead primitive Neanderthal.
 

senseamp

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You claim that she was effective is only accurate if you believe the role of the house of representatives is not to represent the people of particular districts. Yes, she was effective in pushing her "progressive" agenda but she certainly wan't effective at doing her job.

When you vote for Democrats, you vote for a progressive agenda. She was effective in passing that through the House. If only same could be said about Reid, we'd be much better off as a country right now.
 

Sinsear

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The downward spiral continues...


It's amazing how Democrats across the country want to be associated with her. She may represent her district well, but we've all seen the "products" of her district (thread here somewhere with some great pictures of "San Fran peoples"). Unfortunately her districts "people" are not representative of the rest of the country.
 

senseamp

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The downward spiral continues...


It's amazing how Democrats across the country want to be associated with her. She may represent her district well, but we've all seen the "products" of her district (thread here somewhere with some great pictures of "San Fran peoples"). Unfortunately her districts "people" are not representative of the rest of the country.

What are you ranting about?
 

spidey07

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They still just don't get it. In the dems mind it is still "we didn't communicate the message well enough". Putting one of the most despised representatives in the nation as your leader in the house is a terrible idea and will further enshrine her face and radical left progressive ideology as what the party stands for.

It couldn't possibly be that The People completely reject progressive thinking, no that couldn't be it at all. I'm happy for this though, it totally solidifies the democrat party is completely ignoring the will of The People and stands zero chance in 2012.
 

fskimospy

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I'll be sure to remember that post 'ol spidey. If I weren't genuinely afraid for your physical well being, I would probably take even more happiness in your meltdown come election day 2012.

That being said, you're pretty mentally unstable, so lord knows what you would do.
 

Double Trouble

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I don't know why this would be much of a surprise, she was one of the most powerful and effective speakers in US history, it only stands to reason that she will be an effective minority leader.

She was also one of the least liked and was one of the big reasons for the drubbing the party just got. She helped galvanize the "other side" like no other. Heck, every add that ran here in Ohio featured her and Ohio pretty much got swept by the R's.

Some of my employees who voted Obama in the last election voted R this time because they didn't like the idea of "more power for Pelosi" and "what's right for Pelosi is not right for us". Ohio is a swing state, and having Pelosi in there is not going to help the democrats recapture it.

Personally I'm glad she retained her position as the face of failure, it helps ensure years of blissful gridlock. :thumbsup:
 

senseamp

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It makes a lot of sense in the broader political narrative for 2012. Obama needs to pivot to the middle for 2012, for that he needs to have a goal post on the right of him, Boehner, and one left of him, that will be Pelosi, so he will be the moderate politician taking flack from left and right. It would do him no good to have a blue dog to the right of him as minority leader.
 
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