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I don't know why this would be much of a surprise, she was one of the most powerful and effective speakers in US history, it only stands to reason that she will be an effective minority leader.
She was one of the most polarizing. She'll be effective at promoting a higher degree of gridlock, but then I'm OK with that.
In reference to the Rovian nature of the repub agenda where they are in permanent campaign mode, daily spewing all manner of lies and fabricated propaganda against the Dems, their theme song should be "Paint it Black" by the Stones.
If it weren't for the repub's Ministry of Propaganda tarring Nancy in black, her record as Speaker would clearly show her as being effective at her primary function and a much more favorable public image of her would be had.
On a personal note, I don't particularly care for her persona, but that doesn't mean I should ignore or think less of her many accomplishments as Speaker.
As for the fact that there are a whole lot less blue dogs now, well, the ones that lost were for the most part DINO's anyway, especially when it came down to siding with the middle class/poor or Big Business/very rich in areas that most mattered to the Dems, so no loss there....none at all.
Ah yes, the old anti-intellectualism bullshit. I have two bachelors degrees and three masters degrees from top 20 universities because I hate intellect and learning Brilliant!
Really? You must not be able to hear yourself talk, perhaps a hearing check is in order?
I specifically said in my post that if the discussion is around procedures, rules or facts (which would cover the "mechanics of how it was painted") then the opinion of someone who has studied those things could have more validity. Since this discussion is not, having studied for 3, 6 or 30 years is irrelevant.
Wrong and wrong again. I do know what the role is, and you're missing the point about her role. You seem fixated on whether she was a failure in terms of achieving things -- that's completely besides the point. She's been very effectively painted as the face of failure and as the face of all that is bad with politics, as indicated by her popularity and the fact that she was featured very effectively all over the country in the past election to get out the vote. Regardless of whether she was actually effective or not in her position, politically speaking, nationally she's seen as a failure among both independents and conservatives. Her actual effectiveness as the speaker is a completely different discussion/analysis, and one where your background might be beneficial.
You can call that painting beautiful all you want, but to the public at large, it's damned ugly :biggrin:
The Dem leadership has stated that them message is still sound - it is the transmission mechanism that had static.
So they do not need to fix the message, just the transmission frequency.
Unbelievable. It's almost like they didn't get the message on November 2. Or they simply aren't listening. I also agree that keeping her minority leader is the best thing dems could have done to push favor to republicans for the next two years and into 2012. It's really amazing they just aren't listening, or they just don't get it, or more likely, the leftist agenda is more important than the future and state of the nation.
She and the Dems in Congress had higher approval rating than the John Boehner and the Reps.And by pushing that agenda the vast majority of the country didn't want she earned the abysmal approval numbers along with democrats. And instead of listening to The People, they went ahead and said she still represents the leadership of the party.
Unbelievable. It's almost like they didn't get the message on November 2. Or they simply aren't listening. I also agree that keeping her minority leader is the best thing dems could have done to push favor to republicans for the next two years and into 2012. It's really amazing they just aren't listening, or they just don't get it, or more likely, the leftist agenda is more important than the future and state of the nation.
And yet she still has a higher favorable rating than Johnny boy.I don't think you know how to read that graph. 56% unfavorable of Pelosi vs 31% for Boehner. That's almost 2-1. It's like the leftists live in their own reality that doesn't exist in the the real world.
LOL @ People who think Senators and Congressmen actually strive to represent the wills of the people in their districts.
A recent joint study conducted by the Department of Health and the Department of Motor Vehicles indicates that 23% of traffic accidents are alcohol related.And yet she still has a higher favorable rating than Johnny boy.
Same lady who racked up 100k on taxpayer money for flight drinks over two years in her flights coast to coast. This on top of 2mil to fly her ass back and forth for those two years.
She's for herself first, always has been. She stomps on the will of the poeple she's suppose to represent in order to stay on the pedestal she has created for herself. If she cared about the Dems she would have stood down after realizing how bad she is for the parties future.
Same dumb bitch who made a mockery of MLK's fight for civil rights by putting herself on the same level.
Yes, she is exactly what's wrong with politics in the country.
You've obviously never been to SF...
They still just don't get it. In the dems mind it is still "we didn't communicate the message well enough". Putting one of the most despised representatives in the nation as your leader in the house is a terrible idea and will further enshrine her face and radical left progressive ideology as what the party stands for.
It couldn't possibly be that The People completely reject progressive thinking, no that couldn't be it at all. I'm happy for this though, it totally solidifies the democrat party is completely ignoring the will of The People and stands zero chance in 2012.
Meanwhile Boehner will continue to fly back and forth to his district on commercial aircraft. The 'good ol' days of $100,000 bar tabs are over.You realize that the requirements for Nancy Pelosi's travel were put into place by President Bush after September 11th, right?
Meanwhile Boehner will continue to fly back and forth to his district on commercial aircraft. The 'good ol' days of $100,000 bar tabs are over.
Meanwhile Boehner will continue to fly back and forth to his district on commercial aircraft. The 'good ol' days of $100,000 bar tabs are over.