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Lifer
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Small men need what they are to be important to feel good about themselves so they turn to nationalism and racism. They do this because who they are is so mediocre and lacking.
 
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Small men need what they are to be important to feel good about themselves so they turn to nationalism and racism. They do this because who they are is so mediocre and lacking.
Why is the world full of small men?
I dare say... to be otherwise is the exception.
 
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Vic

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1. Rob the world
2. Sponsor regime change all over the world
3. Sit on ivory towers
4. Preach from there.

India has a long way to go. India needs nationalism if it is to rise as a country. All these ideals are great when you are living on the spoils of your ancestors sitting in ivory towers. Over here, it is a difference between life and death. We got terrorists at our borders, two hostile nations at either fronts both with nuclear weapons.

The comparison simply does not stand.

Oh and that press freedom ranks thing still is again something coming out of ivory towers.
> Hitler has entered the chat
 

Vic

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Small men need what they are to be important to feel good about themselves so they turn to nationalism and racism. They do this because who they are is so mediocre and lacking.
"To the dastardly, bastardly plans of little mice and men
Ugly rears its head and speaks from now and then
People love to disagree, so avoid the endless bout
Make no attempt to try and suss the stupid out
But of the racist institutions, simple minds belong
Not happy just being human, no wish to get along
Little people need exclusions, sucker groups to throng
It makes them feel special, it makes them feel strong"
 

Perknose

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Dowries Are Fuelling a Femicide Epidemic In India​

"Every year in India, many thousands are killed in marriage-payment disputes. Why does this war on women persist?"

"In 2022, India ranked a hundred and thirty-fifth out of a hundred and forty-six countries in the World Economic Forum’s Global Gender Gap Report, behind Bangladesh (seventy-first) and Sri Lanka (a hundred and tenth) as well as Islamic monarchies such as Brunei (a hundred and fourth) and Saudi Arabia (a hundred and twenty-seventh). Such indicators can prompt questions like the one posed by the Guardian a decade ago: “Why is India so bad for women?”"

^^^ So, OP, why is India so bad for women?
 

UNCjigga

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This thread is dumb. First, OP baits people without any chance for honest debate. Now half of the shit here has nothing to do with Modi.

Modi talks a big game and fails to deliver on several fronts.

1. Demonetization didn’t work, unless the end goal was to enrich bankers and investors who’d go on to become the BJP’s top donors. It crippled upward mobility for lower middle classes, and did nothing to prevent the growth of black money cash in circulation.

2. Modi crushed farmers through land reform and failed to protect their crops via subsidies, and the net result is India now has to import more of the food it needs to feed its population. Foreign agribusiness multinationals are the only ones who’ve benefitted.

3. While Modi has been hailed as pro-business and pro foreign investment, India was starting from such a bad place that any small improvement would be seen as a major victory. But young Indians still cannot find jobs that were promised and economic growth has been in fits and spurts. The pandemic can only be blamed for so long.

Like most populists, Modi is firing on all cylinders when it comes to culture war issues, but the economic growth he pledged to deliver back in 2013 has been limited and only benefitted the richest Indians. In that aspect, he’s done no better than previous Congress governments. We expected better.

Of course, he’s done a great job of making himself immune to criticism and from being held accountable for any failures.
 

Braznor

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Wait, wait. W
Yes, you have understood America. I will not argue with any of that.


No it does not. It might need patriotism, but never nationalism. Patriotism is loving one's country, nationalism is hating all others.



I'm not sure what we are comparing. You didn't quote anyone.
I'm going to be honest, I don't know a lot about Indian politics. But I know you can't fight hate with more hate. It never works. You just end up creating more people that hate you.



Attacking the source is not a valid argument. If the information is correct, it does not matter the source. If you wish to discredit it, you must disprove the information not complain about where it came from.
Do you really think a country like Pakistan which is actively controlled by the military, sponsors terrorism, hid Bin Laden, actively oppress minorities has a better press freedom instead of India which has a vibrant free press?

P&N may be willingly live in a state of denial over all these factors, but don't expect the world to swallow it.
 
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Braznor

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This thread is dumb. First, OP baits people without any chance for honest debate. Now half of the shit here has nothing to do with Modi.

Modi talks a big game and fails to deliver on several fronts.

1. Demonetization didn’t work, unless the end goal was to enrich bankers and investors who’d go on to become the BJP’s top donors. It crippled upward mobility for lower middle classes, and did nothing to prevent the growth of black money cash in circulation.

2. Modi crushed farmers through land reform and failed to protect their crops via subsidies, and the net result is India now has to import more of the food it needs to feed its population. Foreign agribusiness multinationals are the only ones who’ve benefitted.

3. While Modi has been hailed as pro-business and pro foreign investment, India was starting from such a bad place that any small improvement would be seen as a major victory. But young Indians still cannot find jobs that were promised and economic growth has been in fits and spurts. The pandemic can only be blamed for so long.

Like most populists, Modi is firing on all cylinders when it comes to culture war issues, but the economic growth he pledged to deliver back in 2013 has been limited and only benefitted the richest Indians. In that aspect, he’s done no better than previous Congress governments. We expected better.

Of course, he’s done a great job of making himself immune to criticism and from being held accountable for any failures.


1. Demonetization is a failure based on what? Our agencies now have troves of data collected from the time of demonetization and the cases are being filed against offenders on an ongoing basis.

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opinion/demonetisation-a-success/article35326808.ece

The funny thing is that these cases are being lodged against big business, the very big business Modi is accused of being in favor of.

2. 86% of farmers supported the repealed farm laws -

https://zeenews.india.com/india/86-...ds-supreme-court-appointed-panel-2447065.html

As for India's agricultural production -

What has the Modi government done for the well-being of India’s farm community? This is a question that is often asked. Well, for starters, the government has been transferring cash directly to farmers. Over Rs 1.35 lakh crore has been paid (via PM-KISAN, since its inception, in December 2018) to over 12 crore farmers. From just 255 million tonnes in 2012-13, under an inept Congress regime, to 297.5 million tonnes in 2019-20 and 303.34 million tonnes of foodgrain production in 2020-21, is a vindication of how India’s self-sufficiency, with an exportable surplus in the foodgrain space, has added to India’s economic heft. The latest data available with the Food Corporation of India (FCI) shows wheat procurement crossed 418 lakh metric tonnes (LMT) till May 29, 2021, in the ongoing rabi marketing season (RMS), higher than 390 LMT in RMS 2019-20. The current year’s wheat procurement figure is the highest ever in post-independent India. This is also the first time that wheat procurement has crossed the 400 LMT mark. The record wheat procurement comes just after the all-time high procurement of paddy. In the 2020-21 Kharif marketing season (KMS), paddy procurement crossed 789 LMT, compared to 773 LMT in KMS 2019-20, according to FCI data.
https://thedailyguardian.com/how-modi-government-is-empowering-farm-economy/
 

Braznor

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Pure denial of reality by P&N when it comes to that farce called Press Freedom Rankings

What is the dark reality behind India trailing Pakistan and Afghanistan in the so called ‘World Press Freedom Index’?​




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India has among the most vibrant and linguistically diverse press in the world. According to Registrar of Newspapers for India, the country has over 100,000 registered publications including over 20,000 dailies in almost 200 languages and dialects. India has over 200 TV News channels in several languages.
India is also the world’s largest democracy. According to some estimates India has the most Newspapers published in any country and the Times of India has the highest circulation for any daily English-language newspaper in the world.
The so-called ‘World Press Freedom Index’ ranks India 161 out of 180 countries in 2023. It ranks India behind countries like Afghanistan (152) and Pakistan (150) where blasphemy is punishable by death.

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India also fares worse than countries like Central African Republic (98) and Somalia (141) with ongoing civil wars.
Hence the new World Press Freedom Index raises serious questions about the methodology of these rankings.
We spoke to quantitative comparative sociologist Dr Salvatore Babones about these rankings whose area of expertise is quantitative methods for cross-national comparisons.
Dr Babones is Associate Professor at The University of Sydney. He earned an M.S.E in Mathematical Sciences and a Ph.D. in Sociology from Johns Hopkins University, US. He mentions that India trailing Afghanistan and Hong Kong raises concerns about the integrity of the World Press Freedom Index.
According to this index “with an average of three or four journalists killed in connection with their work every year, India is one of the world’s most dangerous countries for the media”.
However, Dr Babones points out that between 2014-2023, Annual Journalists death per billion population in India was 2.3 which is lower than US (3.3) and far lower than the rest of the world excluding China (12.3) and yet according to these rankings India is more unsafe for journalists than Afghanistan.
"With an average of three or four journalists killed in connection with their work every year, India is one of the world’s most dangerous countries for the media." – this, from @RSF_inter's latest World Press Freedom Index. Great write-up. Shame about the data. pic.twitter.com/dUBVqRAwky
— Salvatore Babones (@ProfBabones) May 4, 2023
He feels that this is a case where instead of saying that the objective data suggests the opposite of what the subjective survey is showing, they are just looking for data to justify their narrative.
 
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Vic

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After we're done yanking the chips industry from China and the auto business from Hungary, my next hope is that "the west" completely disentangles its banking services from India and the Philipines. It's not an coincidence that the bulk of financial scams and ID theft fraud afflicting US consumers are coming from India, and it's about time the US banking industry tells Modi to get fucked for allowing this.
 

Braznor

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After we're done yanking the chips industry from China and the auto business from Hungary, my next hope is that "the west" completely disentangles its banking services from India and the Philipines. It's not an coincidence that the bulk of financial scams and ID theft fraud afflicting US consumers are coming from India, and it's about time the US banking industry tells Modi to get fucked for allowing this.
Ha ha ha.
 

brycejones

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Dowries Are Fuelling a Femicide Epidemic In India​

"Every year in India, many thousands are killed in marriage-payment disputes. Why does this war on women persist?"

"In 2022, India ranked a hundred and thirty-fifth out of a hundred and forty-six countries in the World Economic Forum’s Global Gender Gap Report, behind Bangladesh (seventy-first) and Sri Lanka (a hundred and tenth) as well as Islamic monarchies such as Brunei (a hundred and fourth) and Saudi Arabia (a hundred and twenty-seventh). Such indicators can prompt questions like the one posed by the Guardian a decade ago: “Why is India so bad for women?”"

^^^ So, OP, why is India so bad for women?
I guess the OP doesn’t want to respond to this.
 
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Yup.



Because this thread is principally about the obdurate fanboy idiocy of the OP.

And you clowns enable it by partaking.

I don't know what's more pathetic, how desperately the OP wants to sew his lips to Modi's asshole or how much the rest of you want to waste your time arguing with him that it'll be shitty, ignoring that's the reason he's doing it.
 

Braznor

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To the women's dowry related deaths, yes India needs to do better on this front. Dowry related deaths happen whole of the south asia including Pakistan, Bangladesh. But don't think it is the result of BJP's oppression or anything. More women vote for BJP than men. The party has a fair representation of women leaders and workers.

https://www.fairobserver.com/politics/why-do-women-support-indian-prime-minister-narendra-modi/
The BJP did better among women than among men. In India’s most populous state of Uttar Pradesh (UP), 48% of women voted for the BJP in comparison to 44% of the men. Despite the BJP’s UP success, the BBC dryly asked “Are women really thriving in UP as PM Modi claims?” The article concludes with the quote “Women here have very little freedom. They are told who to vote for and they often vote along with the rest of the family.”
 

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Dowries Are Fuelling a Femicide Epidemic In India​

"Every year in India, many thousands are killed in marriage-payment disputes. Why does this war on women persist?"

"In 2022, India ranked a hundred and thirty-fifth out of a hundred and forty-six countries in the World Economic Forum’s Global Gender Gap Report, behind Bangladesh (seventy-first) and Sri Lanka (a hundred and tenth) as well as Islamic monarchies such as Brunei (a hundred and fourth) and Saudi Arabia (a hundred and twenty-seventh). Such indicators can prompt questions like the one posed by the Guardian a decade ago: “Why is India so bad for women?”"

^^^ So, OP, why is India so bad for women?
As much as I loathe the BJP, I'm with the OP on this in that it has nothing to do with Modi or the BJP, but is a problem that has existed way before them.
 
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Pohemi

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Oh, now you are noticing the thread is derailed?

My point is it is easy to trash anything. See, I can trash America too.
So we were discussing one man in India, and you ran out of defenses so you have to target the issues of an entire country to make ammo bad enough to use for #whataboutism. Typical.
Nah, just the standard fare for P&N.
If you stopped posting drivel like this thread, the forums overall would improve. Why do you persist in contributing to the problem, as you see it?
So you created a thread to whine about what a victim you are. Checks out, I guess.
Both him and his broodmother, Modi. Both eternal victims of that bad man press. Unless it's painting Modi in a positive light...it's all ivory tower lies. Or something.

 

Braznor

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So we were discussing one man in India, and you ran out of defenses so you have to target the issues of an entire country to make ammo bad enough to use for #whataboutism. Typical.

If you stopped posting drivel like this thread, the forums overall would improve. Why do you persist in contributing to the problem, as you see it?

Both him and his broodmother, Modi. Both eternal victims of that bad man press. Unless it's painting Modi in a positive light...it's all ivory tower lies. Or something.

Another preacher! P&N is full of them.

Excuse me, P&N was not referring to Modi when that post of mine was made. As for the posting of mine targeting an entire country, read how my country was being targeted by the others here in a demeaning tone and attitude.

And my thread has as much right to exist as any other thread here.

In light of these facts, you know where your preaching belongs now. So stuff it and quit bawling like a baby.
 
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Pohemi

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Another preacher! P&N is full of them.

Excuse me, P&N was not referring to Modi when that post of mine was made. As for the posting of mine targeting an entire country, read how my country was being targeted by the others here in a demeaning tone and attitude.

And my thread has as much right to exist as any other thread here.

In light of these facts, you know where your preaching belongs now. So stuff it and quit bawling like a baby.
Still playing the victim. And projecting.

"Waaahhhhh! Someone said something bad about my hero! Wahhhhh!" Holy shit, the irony in your posts and lack of self-awareness is thicker than molasses...
 
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