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ch33zw1z

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Well whatever, keep posting like a 5 year old 👋

Sure, and in case you feel up to reading, start with this thread. I mean, it’s not a video, but I’m sure you can make your way thru it. Just make sure you take your time, and Google those words you can’t understand
 
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Pohemi

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Hey everyone! braznor's cousin is here to inform you all of the truth! (by insulting people's spelling when they spelled nothing wrong? Apparently)

Another bootlicker going on iggy, I guess.
 

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Was visiting my parents this weekend and I was quite disappointed to hear my Dad full bore backing Modi with all these perceived slights against Hindus. The old hatreds die hard I guess (man has been an American citizen living here for 40+ years at this point).

In a similar vein he has become quite politically smitten with Vivek Ramaswamy in the Republican primary and insisted on showing me YouTube video after video of VR pitching his spiel.
 
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R0H1T

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Made what through? I live here, you think that second or third hand view point would hold a candle to my life experiences? Like I said previously in another thread Modi is your typical politician looking to dredge up sometimes religious/communal/caste/language divide in order to win elections. He's no different than 1000 other politicians before or since!
Thing that bugs me in this thread is that if you are not a fan of BJP, Modi or their policies you are labeled a 'leftist'. As opposed to what? Fascist?
Except I didn't use the L word anywhere did I? The contrary is true though in this echo chamber because even if you don't agree with all of Modi's policies, only some of them, you are a right wing Hindu nationalist nutjob/fascist/Nazi but hey keep pushing the line that you're the righteous ones 👌

And if you were at least "semi" serious about this you would explain how objective/accurate these ranking are? Like journalists being killed in India ~ yes it's unfortunate but a lot of them are victims of reporting local/state issues & then corruption at the national level. Do you seriously think everyone of these political hit jobs was because of BJP?
This seems like a good read and a good summary of the concerns about modi.

Yes that explains how Congress won the last elections in Karnataka, if you were half as informed about India as some of you claim to be then you'd know caste+language divide is greater than Hindu/Muslim tensions here but carry on with your enlightening revelations! Modi has lost more elections than he's won the BJP since he took power at the center, BJP probably also has lost 2/3 or more state elections since 98/99 when they first formed a stable govt at the center but yes democracy is at stake because you said so 🤨

And Congress was never as secular as some of you seem to think otherwise partition would likely have never happened!

Finally people in India who get "turned on" by this BS probably constitute less than 1% of the population. Most would rather concentrate on their meals next day, housing, fuel costs, food etc. The vast majority of people don't fucking care who's gonna be the next PM of the country & whether it has to be Modi or not.

Here's another pointer for you ~ democracy is roughly the same it has ever been, corruption however IMO has worsened. What used to be done below the table probably gets through now electoral bonds & other more fancy ways, but it goes to all sides & BJP isn't the only beneficiary.

If you think that has weakened the institutions/democracy sure because Modi was supposed to be driving this weed out of the system & he didn't. Everything else you hear or see ~ you must be living in a parallel world where India was the beacon of freedom/democracy/secularism yada yada because that was never the case!

Farm laws you say? Do you have wealthy farmer relatives here ~ no, then you're clearly lying how they would negatively affect farmers!

And if you're still not convinced why don't you come out here & see for yourself what this dying/decaying democracy is all about? Don't restrict yourself to the view point of 0.001% of the population who subscribe to the likes of WSJ, WaPo or NYT. I'll even pay for your trip home as long as its economy class

If India needs to come out of the same old legacy of 1000+ years of divide & rule we need to recognize that corruption is (for me) the biggest issue in this country ~ which IMO a majority of people already understand. The bureaucrat who asks for a bribe to not "stall" your Passport application doesn't give you a discount if you're a Muslim or Hindu, neither does that Minister claiming to bring the glory of ancient Hindu kingdoms back & if you can't see this then you clearly have no fucking clue about India!
 
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amenx

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Except I didn't use the L word anywhere did I? The contrary is true though in this echo chamber because even if you don't agree with all of Modi's policies, only some of them, you are a right wing Hindu nationalist nutjob/fascist/Nazi but hey keep pushing the line that you're the righteous ones 👌
Others arguing here too.

So Pakistan's press freedom is ahead of India in your precious ranking, that too in 2023 is insane. Now you left may live in la la land, but Pakistan is controlled by the military. It doesn't take a genius to recognize the critical flaw in that.

Again nothing specfic and nothing to have to Modi 'catering' to 'extreme Hindu Nationalists' (Perknose's words)

Just a grand summarization of the left's boogeyman.
 

R0H1T

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bootlicking
You keep posting that same shit over & over again, is that your day job or just a hobby?
Others arguing here too.
And like I said you countered that with your own hyperbole, not you personally but a lot of others! Here's one example ~

Not sure how much weight you give to the rankings but clearly the world hinges upon it as lots of you have quoted them! Now the reason for a major dip from the previous year?
Status Change

India’s status declined from Free to Partly Free due to a multiyear pattern in which the Hindu nationalist government and its allies have presided over rising violence and discriminatory policies affecting the Muslim population and pursued a crackdown on expressions of dissent by the media, academics, civil society groups, and protesters.
Really what fucking multi year pattern was it? A policy proposing Hindu migrants be given faster road to Citizenship(?) from neighboring countries considering we have to deal with Pak & at least some form of terrorism from 2 sides of the border? While personally I'd prefer anyone seeking refuge to be given equal treatment here but path to citizenship is a more dicey thing since we're still only just enjoying "cease fire" with our second biggest enemy on the border. Maybe you can also explain when talking about India you always conveniently ignore the Pak quotient or is that too inconvenient given the US turned a blind eye as AQ Khan was sourcing nuke tech from across the globe including yours truly 🤔

Then the NRC, have you look ~

The kind of change you probably are expecting won't come because people aren't bothered enough to change the status quo or to give up their daily routine of WhatsApp, YouTube, Facebook, TikTok etc.

The same reason revolutions don't or won't ever happen in our lifetimes because almost everyone is content with the inertia, people are more than happy with their fucking RTX 4090's pumping 1000 fps in CS go, kids are happy with their latest iToy & everyone's happy criticizing everyone else ~ yes that also includes me but at least I know where the major issues lie, mostly as far as India is concerned.

Ciao & keep pretending that your idea of "democracy" would fill the bellies of a billion+ or your "freedom of speech" helps the Hindu (or Muslim) farmer whose land was forcibly taken over by the govt.

You might see the parallels between your right wing in the US & the so called Hindu nationalist govt at the center here, who btw was probably supported by more Muslims than any other elections before that, but I prefer the bigger picture in which pretty much everything at the top needs to be completely rebuilt!
 
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Pohemi

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You keep posting that same shit over & over again, is that your day job or just a hobby?

Yes, because the bootlicking from you and the OP is in pretty much every post you make. Must have struck a nerve about it, huh?

Stop constantly bootlicking and I'll stop constantly calling it out.

You might see the parallels between your right wing in the US & the so called Hindu nationalist govt at the center here, who btw was probably supported by more Muslims than any other elections before that, but I prefer the bigger picture in which pretty much everything at the top needs to be completely rebuilt!

You might see other problems that need to be addressed, such as corruption. I don't argue against that. The problem IMO is that you deny there being problematic issues in other respects, or at least handwave it away as nothing that needs to be addressed, much less fixed.

If freedom of the press has been oppressed in the past few years, that IS Modi and the BJP's actions and decisions that have done that.

You attempt to deflect the blame across years or decades of history, but it wasn't previous admins and political parties that made these recent decisions to tighten up and punish those who speak out about the corruption and government actions.

You complain about corruption and then rail against the people who are protesting it in your own country.

But hey...anyone that isn't in India has no clue what's going on there.

You and Braznor might as well be clones with the same programming.
 
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R0H1T

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Yes, because the bootlicking from you and the OP is in pretty much every post you make. Must have struck a nerve about it, huh?
If that's bootlicking for you then you must have been born with foot in the mouth disease, but since you can't differentiate between colors (probably color blind?) we should let that slide. Still need to work on your day job though!
The problem IMO is that you deny there being problematic issues in other respects, or at least handwave it away as nothing that needs to be addressed, much less fixed.
No the problem is that you can't fucking see that the ones complaining the most earn 6-8 figure salaries per month! You think these assholes don't come from a position of privilege as opposed to someone who earns a 10-1000th of that? What sort of a fucking world do you live in where someone who's benefiting from their political & ideological patronage is more right (or left if you lean that way) than others who have to contend with corruption from all sides daily living here? And if the govt really wanted to shut them up for good why do you think they continue to do their "jobs" to this day?

You attempt to deflect the blame across years or decades of history, but it wasn't previous admins and political parties that made these recent decisions to tighten up and punish those who speak out about the corruption and government actions.
I was pointing out that this has been happening across decades & on all sides, it has hollowed India to the core to the the extent that no matter who comes to power you have to pay all of them to get the job done ~ get that through your neanderthal skull! As for punishing those who rail against the govt it's what the ones in power do & will continue to do, this is also what happens in every state ruled by BJP or others.

Do you know how much you need to pay to get a ticket for MLA or MP, to contest elections for a major party? You still don't understand how those barking for one side, or religion, or the other don't really care about the majority/minority they appeal to! They only care about enriching themselves & favoring one side is just a ruse mostly to win elections.
You complain about corruption and then rail against the people who are protesting it in your own country.
Who the fuck is protesting for these things? These cucks who dine at the Taj or any other 5 star hotel? Who get invited to major events & get paid again 6-8 digit sums for an hour or two of their time? Who the fuck do you think pays for their patronage ~ do you? Or the ones who've made a killing sticking to one side & enjoying benefits of sucking up to the ones in power, even if not the govt at the center right now!
But hey...anyone that isn't in India has no clue what's going on there.
Of course you don't so stop excreting BS from all your holes!

The ones making things right mostly don't get featured on Op-eds writing for your favorite website, they actually do the real job on the ground & don't pretend that India's "democracy" is at stake because Modi made his usual remark about what makes him better than Rahul Gandhi or how he's not the product of a dynasty! India's "democracy" doesn't matter if it can't feed its people & make their lives better ~ if this still flies over your lead head then what can I say 🤷‍♂️
 
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R0H1T

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Whatever you say asshole, enjoy your 5 minutes of fame in this echo chamber. You sure taught that Nazi huh & don't forget to hold the door for the next puny brain "expert" on India!
 
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ch33zw1z

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Yes, because the bootlicking from you and the OP is in pretty much every post you make. Must have struck a nerve about it, huh?

Stop constantly bootlicking and I'll stop constantly calling it out.



You might see other problems that need to be addressed, such as corruption. I don't argue against that. The problem IMO is that you deny there being problematic issues in other respects, or at least handwave it away as nothing that needs to be addressed, much less fixed.

If freedom of the press has been oppressed in the past few years, that IS Modi and the BJP's actions and decisions that have done that.

You attempt to deflect the blame across years or decades of history, but it wasn't previous admins and political parties that made these recent decisions to tighten up and punish those who speak out about the corruption and government actions.

You complain about corruption and then rail against the people who are protesting it in your own country.

But hey...anyone that isn't in India has no clue what's going on there.

You and Braznor might as well be clones with the same programming.

It’s like logical fallacy whack-a-mole with every post.

Hey man, this modi guy isn’t that bad. He’s just like the 1000 politicians before him, lol
 

R0H1T

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Says the guy who preaches others to read

Irony must have died at the rate of 4.1GHz looking at so many fantastical posts making up facts on the fly, genocide 🤥
 
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ch33zw1z

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Says the guy who preaches others to read

Irony must have died at the rate of 4.1GHz looking at so many fantastical posts making up facts on the fly, genocide 🤥

Lol, yea, just like @Braznor , not a chance you read all your own links. I’ll read them at my leisure, but that doesn’t change your use of logical fallacy arguments. Again…just like @Braznor .

What also comical is that this thread spun off of a thread where @Braznor was white knighting for extremists in the U.S…. And by your measurement he couldn’t possibly be more informed than those of us living here.

Get real bro, and here’s a link for you:


I sent this to braznor more than once, and he definitely did not review it.
 
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Captante

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Since I have to "comment" in this forum with a meme-post here you go.... but in this case a picture IS worth 1000 words!



Frankly I'm NOT any kind of "expert" on modern India myself ... mainly because I couldn't care less about them as a whole. (sorry)

Especially that scumbag Modi.


NOW.... get busy nuking Pakistan! /s
 
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ch33zw1z

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I’m certainly not an expert. It’s quite telling the way that two people who claim to be from India can’t disprove any information and are quite defensive about criticism of dear leader.

I’ve learned quite a bit in these last two threads.

I don’t necessarily think either bras or r0 are stupid
 
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