NASCAR....oh god why?!?!?!

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TallBill

Lifer
Apr 29, 2001
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what the heck? im a white collar yankee.. and nascar is way more impressive then a game of basketball. its impressive how these machines are built and maintained, and driven fast. as for competing, dont even tell me that putting a ball in a hole would be more fun then driving at 200 mph. From the spectator aspect, its simply fun to watch machines in action. watching the krispy kreme donut machine is more impressive then a game of baseball

btw, i'll agree that other motorsports are better to watch, like rally racing!
 

iamwiz82

Lifer
Jan 10, 2001
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i dont like it, but i respect the drivers. Hell, at least they pass, unlike WRC or any indy/F1 racing. Its alot harder to drive when there is a car 6 inches away from you on either side.
 

weeber

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Oct 10, 1999
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Sure are alot of people here that are willing to judge individuals based on one sport they like to watch. I love watching it, not for the crashes(as those who don't know the sport think is the reason everyone else watches it) , but for the competition and the people in it.

Where else can you see someone whose just out of Purdue with a BS in Mechanical Engineering (Ryan Newman) compete with experienced veterans twice their age going 100+ mph on a level playing field? Plus, if a race team wants to make more money they have to put up or shut up. You want more money, you go out there and you race for it! Most sports today seem to be made up of whiney, egotistical people who feel they don't have to earn where they are, and everything needs to be given to them on a silver plate.
 

T2T III

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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And god knows what speedvision did with my WRC covertage?
I don't mind *some* NASCAR racing, but Speed is way, way, way overdoing it this past few weeks with the coverage at Daytona and "The Rock." I love the WRC racing - that stuff is awesome. I liked the race about 2 weeks ago where there was a moose on the track trying to outrun one of the cars. The car had enough room to pass the moose without clipping him. Also, I liked when they were discussing the Subaru tranny for the WRX that was being driven - $70,000 for the transmission alone.
 

ConclamoLudus

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Jan 16, 2003
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Its not surprising that people don't like NASCAR. Its not for everybody. A lot of people can't grasp the skill and intensity that goes into the sport. Of course, most people wouldn't just assume there aren't any skills involved. I don't like watching rugby, but I don't assume that its a sport for idiots. I recently got into it when I realized how much technology is involved and how strategic these drivers have to be out there. The sport is getting younger and younger these days too, and I envision that in the next 5-10 years NASCAR will have its Jackie Robinson. Its only a matter of time.
 

HokieESM

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Jun 10, 2002
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Actually, NASCAR was a really interesting thing back in the 60s and early 70s when the cars were little more than hot-rodded street cars (although, Ford, Chevy, AND Dodge pulled some tricks--like producing exactly 500 street versions just so they could race). But it lost a LOT of its interest (for me, anyway), when the series went tube-frame and non-production engine. The V8s that they run really aren't even versions of the V8s any of the companies currently produce--if they're akin to anything, the small-blocks from the 60s come closest (but the NASCAR engines are still VERY different than those).

The biggest problem I have with NASCAR is that its turning into "entertainment". Like wrestling is "entertainment". There's no reason to root for a particular manufacturer--when the cars are completely arbitrary (its not like the Monte Carlo you're picking up at the Chevy dealer has ANYTHING to do with what's driven on Sunday at the track). And I'm personally worried about the Frances (the OWNERS--yes, it is wholly owned by them--of NASCAR) giving "the call" when they think it will make a good story. I'm not saying every week.... I'm not even saying every season. Here's a series that prides themselves on the equality of the cars (look at all the adjustments they make to ensure competitiveness of the cars--which stifles creativity and engineering, but that's another story). But there have been some races where some people have literally pulled away from others on the straights. Quickly. Smells fishy to me.
 

HokieESM

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Oh... and one more thing: if they really want to make this series interesting--they need to let the engineers have their way with the cars. Give some simple rules--weight minimum, engine displacement, tire size--and let them go at it. No silly restrictor plates to "equalize" cars, no aerodynamic tests to make sure that brand ___ doesn't get blown off the track..... just let the best team win. I'd LOVE to see that..... I thought we Americans prided ourselves on our "innovation"... so let us "innovate".
 

Siddhartha

Lifer
Oct 17, 1999
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Originally posted by: GamblingIdiot
Redneck white trash needs entertainment also.

I wonder why the moderators tolerate white people getting smacked around like this?
 

jemcam

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Jan 3, 2001
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Ignorance is unbecoming, and I'm not referring to Nascar fans or the sport. If you don't understand it or like it, don't watch it, it's that simple.

I don't care for football, baseball, or basketball but I don't make fun of the fans or the athletes. You really do make yourself look like an idiot when you generalize like that.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: tcsenter
This is a sport for White ppl, you never see Afro_Americans in the crowds.
A bunch of ignorant crackers watch it, if ya ask me.
Wow, and if the reverse statement were "This is a sport for Black ppl, you never see Whites in the crowds. A bunch of ignorant nig-ers watch it, if ya ask me." you'd be getting a vacation.

And yeah, I know all about how 'ignorant cracker' is actually a 'compliment'.

So you don't like white people, eh?

just one of the double standards in today's society. its ok to be a raciest if its against whites. but DONT make a joke that involves blacks, Asians or Mexicans!

im actually surprised you didn?t get a warning from the mods. They seem easy on the trigger for stuff like this.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: GamblingIdiot
Redneck white trash needs entertainment also.

I wonder why the moderators tolerate white people getting smacked around like this?

i have wonderd about that myself. if raciest comments are bannable (which they should) then everyone who does such needs to be banned.
 
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Some people watch NASCAR for the competition. Sometimes I wonder if the people here claim they like WRC simply because its fashionable among the ATOT crowd. A single car racing around a dirt/sand/tarmac track by himself is not everybody's idea of entertainment. A real WRC competition isn't nearly as exciting as the highlight clips they release every year make it seem.

If I had to pick a favorite car series... I don't know, I'd probably pick the American Le Mans series. Not so much for the competition (there really isn't any), but more because of my fascination with LMP cars.

If I were to rank the various mainstream car-series in order of their "watch-factor" value:

1) CART
2) WRC
3) ALMS
4) F1
5) NASCAR
6) IRL

Of course GP bikes own them all.
 

Demon-Xanth

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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NASCAR is what you watch to see guys racing. Not just driving. How much side by side action do the WRC cars typically get per race?

And if NASCAR is just guys driving in a circle:
Baseball is just guys hitting a ball with a stick.
Golf is hitting a ball that's not moving with a stick.
Football is just a bunch of guys running into eachother.
Hockey is just a bunch of guys hitting a can of chewing tobacco with a stick.
Basketball is a bunch of guys throwing a ball through a hoop.

 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Some people watch NASCAR for the competition. Sometimes I wonder if the people here claim they like WRC simply because its fashionable among the ATOT crowd. A single car racing around a dirt/sand/tarmac track by himself is not everybody's idea of entertainment. A real WRC competition isn't nearly as exciting as the highlight clips they release every year make it seem.

If I had to pick a favorite car series... I don't know, I'd probably pick the American Le Mans series. Not so much for the competition (there really isn't any), but more because of my fascination with LMP cars.

If I were to rank the various mainstream car-series in order of their "watch-factor" value:

1) CART
2) WRC
3) ALMS
4) F1
5) NASCAR
6) IRL

Of course GP bikes own them all.


GP bikes own. i love watching them.

i was flipping through the stations the other day and they had drag raceing with motorycyles. Now that was nuts.
 

Nitemare

Lifer
Feb 8, 2001
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I watch it rarely mainly to see crashes. Have not seen it since Earnhardt died though
 

Corn

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Nov 12, 1999
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Nascar is like a fine wine..........once you've tasted a fine wine, you don't want the $3 stuff.
 

Budmantom

Lifer
Aug 17, 2002
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If all of you love your WRC racing why do I only see it on speed and Nascar is on all the major chanels?

Nascar is mostly a "white" sport just like motocrosss/supercross but who is the hottest rider in that series BUBBA. Personally I have never seen a black guy on a dirt bike but Bubba is tearing it up!
 

squirrel dog

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Oct 10, 1999
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I dont like or dislike Nascar.I can take it or leave it.Once seen in person,most are hooked,I've been told.I'm white/live in Louisiana.I dont judge peole by what they like or dislike,but by their ablitity to get things done.
 

LAUST

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Sep 13, 2000
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So I did a basic search for NASCAR just in the title's, came up with 8 results for NASCAR, most of them bashing... glad you decided to make another one


I don't care for the sport myself but I also can't stand watching any types of racing, watching is boring
 

Citation

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Sep 28, 2002
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Originally posted by: B00ne
NASCAR is pathetic - the drivers cant even drive in rain - what that about, uuuh boy rain now I have to have skill - nah lets rather break off the race and declare the current leader winner. Well what can u expect from 50's technology cars driving in circles...

You're an idiot.


-Rez
 

Iron Woode

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Citation
Originally posted by: B00ne
NASCAR is pathetic - the drivers cant even drive in rain - what that about, uuuh boy rain now I have to have skill - nah lets rather break off the race and declare the current leader winner. Well what can u expect from 50's technology cars driving in circles...

You're an idiot.


-Rez
That's nowhere near a strong enough statement of B00ne's IQ.

I would have said: pathetic moron who knows nothing about racing but knows a lot about flapping his gums.

 

WinkOsmosis

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Sep 18, 2002
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I used to know a retarded guy who was obsessed with NASCAR. He would talk about how he was going to be a NASCAR driver someday and how he would drive his "NASCAR" "80 on the freeway". It was funny, but I feel sorry for the guy.... for watching NASCAR.
 

Budmantom

Lifer
Aug 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
I used to know a retarded guy who was obsessed with NASCAR. He would talk about how he was going to be a NASCAR driver someday and how he would drive his "NASCAR" "80 on the freeway". It was funny, but I feel sorry for the guy.... for watching NASCAR.

I feel sorry for reading your post.
 
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