Is the active volcano underneath Pine Island Glacier new as well?
The presence of the volcano raises the possibility that volcanic activity could have contributed, or may contribute in the future, to increases in the flow of the glacier.[18]
That nature article just said ocean temperatures are rising and you admit that air temperatures have supposedly plateaued. Therefore the Earth is warming. It is receiving more energy than it radiates.
Global warming is responsible for global warming
Global warming is responsible for global cooling
Global warming is responsible for droughts
Global warming is responsible for flooding
Global warming is responsible for heat waves
Global warming is responsible for blizzards
It all makes sense now!
They've known that for a long time:
Research Cites Role of Warming in Extremes
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/science/earth/research-cites-role-of-warming-in-extremes.html
"Rising temperatures add energy to the atmosphere, and computer models warn that this will produce wider and wilder swings in temperature and rainfall and alter prevailing wind patterns."
With this post I am creating a handy bullshit button on this subject (pictured above). Anytime that you read claims that invoke disasters loss trends as an indication of human-caused climate change, including the currently popular "billion dollar disasters" meme, you can simply call "bullshit" and point to the IPCC SREX report.
Gotta love global warming science. First it's proxies that work everywhere except everywhere we can test them against actual measurements, now it's warming everywhere except everywhere we are actually measuring temperature. What's the odds on that?
Yep.Gravity: a theory you can measure the effects of on a bathroom scale.
Global climate change: What you need a super computer, ten thousand data readings run through forty different programs and still get wrong 'cause you forgot to include the flutter of a butterfly's wings in Brazil.
Is the active volcano underneath Pine Island Glacier new as well?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Island_Glacier
But it's also getting eaten out at the water line by a measurable warming ocean there. It's in the article.
Would the arctic cap have disappeared so much if there wasn't warming?
Increased CO2 in the atmosphere causes warming right? Can we agree on at least that? Since the 1950's we've been spewing CO2 in every way possible. It's what we use to get around. It's what we use for temperature control. It powers our technology.
The link between increased CO2 and human activity is clearly based on logic. Have you seen the 'Keeling Curve'? It shows overall CO2 since our influence:
http://scrippsco2.ucsd.edu/program_history/keeling_curve_lessons.html
"Charles David Keeling directed a program to measure the concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere that continued without interruption from the late 1950's through the present. This program, operated out of Scripps Institution of Oceanography, is responsible for the Mauna Loa record, which is almost certainly the best-known icon illustrating the impact of humanity on the planet as a whole. Lessons can be learned about making long-term measurements based on the experiences of this program."
Edit: People see a short-term lowering of temperatures and decide that global warming science is a lie. There's more variability yes, but we keep breaking temperature records, the overall trend is clear.
But it's also getting eaten out at the water line by a measurable warming ocean there. It's in the article.
Would the arctic cap have disappeared so much if there wasn't warming?
Increased CO2 in the atmosphere causes warming right? Can we agree on at least that? Since the 1950's we've been spewing CO2 in every way possible. It's what we use to get around. It's what we use for temperature control. It powers our technology.
The link between increased CO2 and human activity is clearly based on logic. Have you seen the 'Keeling Curve'? It shows overall CO2 since our influence:
http://scrippsco2.ucsd.edu/program_history/keeling_curve_lessons.html
"Charles David Keeling directed a program to measure the concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere that continued without interruption from the late 1950's through the present. This program, operated out of Scripps Institution of Oceanography, is responsible for the Mauna Loa record, which is almost certainly the best-known icon illustrating the impact of humanity on the planet as a whole. Lessons can be learned about making long-term measurements based on the experiences of this program."
Edit: People see a short-term lowering of temperatures and decide that global warming science is a lie. There's more variability yes, but we keep breaking temperature records, the overall trend is clear.
CO2 will cause warming if everything else remains the same. How much warming?
The long-term warming trend we have is 1976-2000. That is 24 years.
Now we listen about heat hiding in the Oceans.
What mechanism will allow the "missing heat" to escape the Oceans?
How are we sure that the warming period of 1976-2000 wasn't caused by heat escaping the oceans?
Why is the heat now focusing the oceans instead of the atmosphere as it was from 1976-2000?
How can the Antarctic Ocean have more sea ice if we are warming?
Is the south pole immune to the warming?
That's odd...it doesn't look like sea temperatures are rising to me.But it's also getting eaten out at the water line by a measurable warming ocean there. It's in the article.
GISS tops the charts...why am I not surprised? Did Hansen ever reveal the details of his temperature adjustment methodology? I'm personally glad he retired from NASA.1976? Huh? That's not what I remember from school.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=80167
It's from NASA, so I know, leftist pinko commies!
Same methodology as used by a New Jersey accountant - what do you need it to be?GISS tops the charts...why am I not surprised? Did Hansen ever reveal the details of his temperature adjustment methodology? I'm personally glad he retired from NASA.
How much of that CO2 was thanks to global warming scientists and politicians? You know...if my livelihood depended on a theory, I would enhance that theory however possible.
Same applies to big oil. Their livelihood depends on the theory that there is no man made global warming.
CO2 will cause warming if everything else remains the same. How much warming?
The long-term warming trend we have is 1976-2000. That is 24 years.
Now we listen about heat hiding in the Oceans.
What mechanism will allow the "missing heat" to escape the Oceans?
How are we sure that the warming period of 1976-2000 wasn't caused by heat escaping the oceans?
Why is the heat now focusing the oceans instead of the atmosphere as it was from 1976-2000?
How can the Antarctic Ocean have more sea ice if we are warming?
Is the south pole immune to the warming?
Denier! The science is settled.
Now please provide your account number so your CO2 Reparations can be transferred to your victims.
The long-term warming trend we have is 1976-2000. That is 24 years.
1976? Huh? That's not what I remember from school.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=80167
It's from NASA, so I know, leftist pinko commies!
More like 20 or 22 years. Ending it at 2000 is a bit strange.
Man "took control" in 1950s they say. The 1930-40s warming is not caused by us. Get it? Only the ~20 years of warming in the 80s and 90s is claimed to be ours.
It's on really weak grounds unless we start warming again.
So, best not to do anything to stem the harm man is causing to the environment until even the most skeptical, pro-business layperson is convinced there is a problem?
I find people like you very hard to understand.
Well, some of us prefer these little things called facts to fear-mongering from environazis.
Purely by coincidence, this start also coincides with the end of the Little Ice Age. (Not that that happened, now.)The science that I always see says that it was the industrial revolution that started us off (and the measured data only goes back so far:
Again, NASA:
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GlobalWarming/page2.php
" Since the Industrial Revolution began in about 1750, carbon dioxide levels have increased nearly 38 percent as of 2009 and methane levels have increased 148 percent."
1976? Huh? That's not what I remember from school.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=80167
It's from NASA, so I know, leftist pinko commies!