Rant NC GOP just stole a supermajority??

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pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Lots of bad things have been done previously, does that mean we just shrug and move on when they happen?

Just because you don't like it or agree with it doesn't make it a Bad Thing.

If it were a Republican changing to Democrat it would be a good thing right?

 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Just because you don't like it or agree with it doesn't make it a Bad Thing.

If it were a Republican changing to Democrat it would be a good thing right?


I wouldn't be surprised if someone happened to disappear like Jimmy Hoffa but not sure if that's a good or a bad thing!
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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How many of those changed the balance of power? Apples and oranges

As I read it the GOP already held a majority. This one vote just made it a Super-Majority.

This was stated as her reason(s):


"The party wants to villainize anyone who has free thought, free judgement, has solutions and wants to get to work to better our state. Not just sit in a meeting and have a workshop after a workshop, but really work with individuals to get things done. Because that is what real public servants do. If you don't do exactly what the Democrats want you to do they will try to bully you. They will try to cast you aside," she said.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Just because you don't like it or agree with it doesn't make it a Bad Thing.

If it were a Republican changing to Democrat it would be a good thing right?

Makes it bad for the people who voted for her when she promised to push Democratic priorities. Those people should be pissed.
 
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pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Makes it bad for the people who voted for her when she promised to push Democratic priorities. Those people should be pissed.


If it were a Republican changing to Democrat it would be a good thing right?
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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As I read it the GOP already held a majority. This one vote just made it a Super-Majority.

This was stated as her reason(s):


"The party wants to villainize anyone who has free thought, free judgement, has solutions and wants to get to work to better our state. Not just sit in a meeting and have a workshop after a workshop, but really work with individuals to get things done. Because that is what real public servants do. If you don't do exactly what the Democrats want you to do they will try to bully you. They will try to cast you aside," she said.
Those are talking points not examples. Who bullied her and over what issue? If what she says is true should be an easy answer. My guess she is lying, and the talking points are justifications for betraying her constituents.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Did you complain when Arlen Specter changed parties to give Democrats a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate?
A little different Kemosabe, Spector said he will run for re-election as a Democrat letting the people decide if that was acceptable. In NC people didn't have a say.
 
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nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Just because you don't like it or agree with it doesn't make it a Bad Thing.

If it were a Republican changing to Democrat it would be a good thing right?

No, I think if someone is at the point where they're changing parties, they should resign and run again, as it's likely something has shifted for them, and maybe the people who voted them in should be allowed to have a voice in whether they continue to support that person.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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"The party wants to villainize anyone who has free thought, free judgement, has solutions and wants to get to work to better our state. Not just sit in a meeting and have a workshop after a workshop, but really work with individuals to get things done. Because that is what real public servants do. If you don't do exactly what the Democrats want you to do they will try to bully you. They will try to cast you aside," she said.
Yeah fucking right. The Republican party has shown to be such a bastion for freethinkers, and never bullies those who disagree with them.
 
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cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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Elected officials can caucus with whoever they want - there isn't some legal requirement to always be a member of the same party.

I have no idea what happened here and maybe there's something shady going on but there's nothing inherently wrong with people switching parties.
Of course not. What is wrong is taking the power with her and away from those people she is supposed to represent. Suppose she got +18 cause abortion was on the ballot… Flippidiflop turnurn it around and voila fuck your rights bitches.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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A little different Kemosabe, Spector said he will run for re-election as a Democrat letting the people decide if that was acceptable. In NC people didn't have a say.
It's exactly the same thing. PA voters elected him as a Republican and then he switched parties. In PA just like in this situation the voters will have a say next time she's up for re-election, if she chooses to run.
 
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fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Of course not. What is wrong is taking the power with her and away from those people she is supposed to represent. Suppose she got +18 cause abortion was on the ballot… Flippidiflop turnurn it around and voila fuck your rights bitches.
Voters sometimes make bad choices! It doesn't mean the election no longer counts.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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It's exactly the same thing. PA voters elected him as a Republican and then he switched parties. In PA just like in this situation the voters will have a say next time she's up for re-election, if she chooses to run.
His party switch was contingent on winning reelection. People got to decide if they wanted Democrat Arlen Spector. That's not what happened in NC.
 
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fskimospy

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His party switch was contingent on winning reelection. People got to decide if they wanted Democrat Arlen Spector. That's not what happened in NC.
That's not accurate. Specter won office as a Republican in 2004 and then switched parties in 2009. He then proceeded to run as a Democrat (and lose the primary) but he won as an R and then switched to D mid-term.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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That's not accurate. Specter won office as a Republican in 2004 and then switched parties in 2009. He then proceeded to run as a Democrat (and lose the primary) but he won as an R and then switched to D mid-term.
Got a link? I live in PA and don't recall those details
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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I feel their should still be something that forces them to resign or re-run on a new platform though. Otherwise voters that voted for her get screwed, and whats to stop this happening more frequently in the future.
Well I guess that's the idea behind recall elections, although I categorically oppose recalls.

The whole purpose of term lengths is supposed to be that people are free to make unpopular decisions. I don't like this decision but it's absolutely hers to make.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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I see what you are saying. However they only had 58 Dems max. It required 2 independents to vote with them and that wasn't a lock. NC has supermajority of Republicans. Let's see if she changes her agenda. Can you see her voting for abortion rights as a Republican?

I remember not caring at the time. If I had been a Republican probably would have been pissed.


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