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Cuda1447

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Man, I think I'm really starting to hate on EA. Perhaps I'm just in a bad mood. I just got online to play a game of NCAA. Went to play a ranked match. First person got disconnected as soon as the game begin. No biggie. Tried again. The next like 15 people just left the match in team selection screen. I could never get a game going. So I said F' it, I'll play single player. Fired up a dynasty mode and started a season with Ga. Tech. 15 minutes into the game I turn it off because of boredom. The game just seems identical to last years. And the year before. And the year before.


I just really think we need some innovation in our sports games. EA with exclusive rights to produce them is pure shit and has undoubtedly stifled the growth of sports games.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I just really think we need some innovation in our sports games. EA with exclusive rights to produce them is pure shit and has undoubtedly stifled the growth of sports games.

Here's hoping that the recent court decision regarding the NFL means that EA will lose their exclusivity to NFL games at least. :thumbsup:

I have another, off topic question for you guys and I'll also post it in another thread. It is an opinion question:

I have an Xbox Elite with a dying/dead DVD drive. Standard warranty has expired but the RROD warrantly appears to be intact as far as I can tell. The unit is a Falcon. How would you get it fixed? Here are my options:

1. It will cost $99 to have MS fix it.
2. I can get the parts cheaper on eBay, BUT the problem is that it will invalidate the RROD warranty and I am not sure I want to do that. Of course, I suppose if I invalidate the warranty, they'd still fix the RROD for $99, right?
3. Just use the thing until/if it dies and then use the RROD warranty to get it replaced with a unit which hopefully has a working drive.
4. Say to hell with it and just put the $99 towards a new slim or a Jasper arcade and use the Falcons as media extenders/game backups throughout the house.

For now, I took my Xbox Pro from my entertainment center (also a Falcon), swapped the hard drive, and put the Elite in the entertainment center since we typically use it as a Netflix box/media extender. To be honest, I am sick and tired of Xbox hardware issues and even if these guys RROD and are "repaired" under MS coverage, I'd just get a refurb back from MS (which my faulty Elite was) and it would probably croak soon too.

I am still kicking myself for not snagging an $80 Jasper Arcade at Target a few weeks ago.
 
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IndyColtsFan

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This game continues to piss me off, even though I have been winning. D is non-existent on my team even though for the most part, I am calling the right plays at the right times. Giving up 444 yards and 29 points is ridiculous.

The player movement is about to push me over the edge. I much preferred NCAA 09, for example, because I could actually use the hit stick there.
 

fatpat268

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This game continues to piss me off, even though I have been winning. D is non-existent on my team even though for the most part, I am calling the right plays at the right times. Giving up 444 yards and 29 points is ridiculous.

The player movement is about to push me over the edge. I much preferred NCAA 09, for example, because I could actually use the hit stick there.

I completely agree. The more and more I play and think about it, the more I start hating the game.

I just want to play a realistic game of football, and after all these years EA still can't do it. I either win big (on all-american) or lose big (on heisman). This is something that plagues just about every football game.

Madden a couple of years ago tried to dynamically adjust to your skills, but it instead just proved how much of a joke the difficulty levels are. There, one game you can demolish the competition, and then the next game you lose miserably because it changed the difficulty. This became a see-saw.

I understand that everyone is different, but how hard is it to create a difficulty level where it makes games fun and competitive? I understand that the sliders are supposed to accomplish this task, but it takes hours of trial and error to get them correct.

Other thoughts:

--Why do all defensive backs have bricks for hands? Seriously, either change the animation to make most of these swats, or make the DB catch it. In this game, DBs seem to catch about 5-10% of the balls that touch their hands, whereas in real life, I'm sure the number probably approaches 50%.

--Why does the AI need to cheat and phase shift pass defenders a couple of yards after my receiver beat them on an out route? Out route are nigh impossible at times because the AI always tries to jump the route an go for a pick 6.

--Why is it that the AI D-Line make my O-Line look like swiss cheese, yet I can't penetrate the AI O-Line? Whenever I play D-Line, all the AI does is continually pancake me... great. At least when you finally do get to the QB, the QB doesn't automatically throw it the instant you get there.

-Why doesn't the hit stick work reliably? The hit stick is a joke. I'd venture to say half the time I use it, it doesn't work. And even when it does work, it's not much more than a tackle.

--Why is it, after all these years, that I still fucking can't RETURN A PUNT? wtf? Nearly every punt return I do, I always have two defenders right up in my nose as i catch the ball because my blockers can't seem to block (novel concept...).

--Why do I have to wait for the clock to run down when I QB kneel it (after the opponents timeouts have been used up)? EA keeps saying they wanted to make NCAA games quicker, yet it still can't intelligently ask me if I want to automatically skip 40 seconds of staring at the playcalling screen?

--Why can't EA bring back the old style playcall screen? As in displaying three plays at a time, not one.

--Why do all these random glitches popup year after year when EA hasn't done anything to their game :awe:?

--More realistic lighting system? Slap a sepia filter on the game in the fourth quarter!

--They keep the road to glory in the game every year, but they do just about nothing to it. Why? Erin Andrews? Woopdee frickin doo.

Honestly, I could go on, but at this point I'm hungry.

I honestly felt bored playing a dynasty game, and I never felt that way before. I'm not sure what game all these reviewers were playing (they were suggesting that NCAA is back and isn't madden's little brother anymore) because it feels exactly like the last NCAA game I played (NCAA 09) only with a better framerate.

I'll keep playing it though, but I think my high expectations for each new EA football game really sours my mood after a couple of days playing said game.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Sep 22, 2007
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Good synopsis Fatpat. I agree with almost everything you said. In addition to what I think is an unrealistic passing game, I'd have to say player movement (esp. the hit stick) and the ridiculous play calling screen piss me off the most. Even if I were inclined to buy Madden 11 before I bought NCAA 11, I wouldn't now just because those two crappy things would make it into that game.

If you read the Virtual Sports Net forums, you'll see that the reviews started out very positive but now, people are complaining and are voicing the same complaints we are. I'm just shocked that the demo seemed so good but the game seems so bad. I will keep playing it and maybe it will grow on me, but I think I prefer NCAA 09.

P.S. The sepia tone late in the game irritates the crap out of me too. At first I thought there was something wrong with my Xbox or TV.
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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Well, I guess I should look at the bright side -- I only paid $39.99 for it, and if it continues pissing me off like this, that will be my best defense against buying Madden.
 

jtisgeek

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I don't understand what you guys mean by the play calling you have a lot of options if on advanced to shows you 3 plays I like to call my plays by type.
 

fatpat268

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Well, I guess I should look at the bright side -- I only paid $39.99 for it, and if it continues pissing me off like this, that will be my best defense against buying Madden.

I took a step ahead and created the dallas cowboys in team builder.



http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/23375652

Got the uniforms pretty close within the limitations of the builder. Hell, even the stadium is in the game since it's used for the cotton bowl. I might do some more nfl teams eventually
 

fatpat268

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I don't understand what you guys mean by the play calling you have a lot of options if on advanced to shows you 3 plays I like to call my plays by type.

Yea it does, but you still have to scroll through each play one by one. In the past you'd essentially have pages of plays, and on each page you could select one of three plays using the X, A, or B button.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Sep 22, 2007
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I don't understand what you guys mean by the play calling you have a lot of options if on advanced to shows you 3 plays I like to call my plays by type.

I think just about all of us use Advanced. This is how the playcalling screen should look/work (this is from Madden 09 or 10):



Note that you see four plays at once and can select any of them without the need to scroll around. Every time you do scroll off the screen, you'll get four more plays.

As Fatpat mentioned, you might see three plays when on the NCAA 11 playcalling screen, but you have to scroll to the one you want to pick it and any time you do scroll off the screen, only one new play appears on the screen and one drops off. That takes way too long, particularly when you're on defense and the computer picks play so quickly. This screenshot is from the hurry-up offense, but it uses the same mechanism:



The first playcalling screen is much, much faster to use.
 
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IndyColtsFan

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I took a step ahead and created the dallas cowboys in team builder.



http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/23375652

Got the uniforms pretty close within the limitations of the builder. Hell, even the stadium is in the game since it's used for the cotton bowl. I might do some more nfl teams eventually

That is cool. I might have to mess around with that, but I don't think Lucas Oil stadium is in the game unfortunately.
 

leeland

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I have been out of the loop awhile on the NCAA games and just downloaded the demo...

MAN has it changed...the controls are hard to get used to!
 

IndyColtsFan

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Sep 22, 2007
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So, after playing the game for several days, are you guys still interested in a dynasty? I haven't played it in a couple of days but probably should force myself to fire it up.
 
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Well you can remove me from the dynasty as I have now experienced my SECOND RROD. This one coming on a replacement unit Microsoft sent me. I think I'm going to send it back in for replacement, sell the replacement and maybe buy a PS3 if I'm inclined. As of now I'm done with 360.
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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Well you can remove me from the dynasty as I have now experienced my SECOND RROD. This one coming on a replacement unit Microsoft sent me. I think I'm going to send it back in for replacement, sell the replacement and maybe buy a PS3 if I'm inclined. As of now I'm done with 360.

Good luck. I had 4 or 5 Xboxes go bad but I had too much invested to give them up completely. I have 2 right now: an Elite and a Pro, and the Elite's DVD drive has stopped working (it was an RROD replacement), so I swapped it with the Pro in my entertainment center. I can't justify spending $100 to get the DVD "repaired," and I can't justify repairing it myself either as that would void the remainder of the RROD warranty.

Both are Falcon units and as much as I'd like to get one of the newer 360s, it is hard to justify the cost given the royal screw job MS has laid on all of us. Maybe I should see what Gamestop would give me on trade for the one that still works 100%.
 

jtisgeek

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Good luck. I had 4 or 5 Xboxes go bad but I had too much invested to give them up completely. I have 2 right now: an Elite and a Pro, and the Elite's DVD drive has stopped working (it was an RROD replacement), so I swapped it with the Pro in my entertainment center. I can't justify spending $100 to get the DVD "repaired," and I can't justify repairing it myself either as that would void the remainder of the RROD warranty.

Both are Falcon units and as much as I'd like to get one of the newer 360s, it is hard to justify the cost given the royal screw job MS has laid on all of us. Maybe I should see what Gamestop would give me on trade for the one that still works 100%.


Yeah that all sucks I always just fix them my self cause I always mod stuff there 200 dollars not a big deal if it breaks but it's not like the old days.

One rant I have had 2 ps3's die so I hate the stereo type that ps3's are great cause there not but for some reason there failures weren't in the media .

So when are we going to get this started? Football wise.
 

artemicion

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I'm still down to do the dynasty thing.

For the peeps with hardware troubles, you might want to look into finding a Gen 1 Jasper Arcade over the next few weeks. The 4GB slim arcade is coming out soon, I think, and the Jasper's should be available for around $100 (being super optimistic here). Swap your old HDD to the jasper and you're good to go. You can probably unload your old xbox on ebay for a few bucks for parts, if nothing else.

Maybe I'm optimistic here, but you can probably sell:
1) the broken xbox for at least $20 on ebay
2) the extra controller you get with the new xbox for at least $20 on ebay
3) whatever bundled game that came with the xbox for at least $20

Actually I don't know if the gen 1 arcade came with a game. Hopefully it did. If you're lucky, you might be able to get a brand new, reliable xbox for around $40-$60.
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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I'm still down to do the dynasty thing.

For the peeps with hardware troubles, you might want to look into finding a Gen 1 Jasper Arcade over the next few weeks. The 4GB slim arcade is coming out soon, I think, and the Jasper's should be available for around $100 (being super optimistic here). Swap your old HDD to the jasper and you're good to go. You can probably unload your old xbox on ebay for a few bucks for parts, if nothing else.

Maybe I'm optimistic here, but you can probably sell:
1) the broken xbox for at least $20 on ebay
2) the extra controller you get with the new xbox for at least $20 on ebay
3) whatever bundled game that came with the xbox for at least $20

Actually I don't know if the gen 1 arcade came with a game. Hopefully it did. If you're lucky, you might be able to get a brand new, reliable xbox for around $40-$60.

Target had the Jasper Arcades for $80 ($130 and you got a $50 giftcard) a few weeks ago and I was stupid and didn't get one. That is why I am reluctant to spend $100 to have MS "fix" my DVD issue -- 1) Cheap Jasper arcades (and I WILL buy one if I find one for $100 new) that I could apply that $100 to and 2) The unit in question is a Falcon and given enough time, will probably RROD and I'd get the entire thing replaced for free. Of course since the DVD doesn't work well and it is now just a media extender, it might not be very likely to die.

I have 2 Xboxes, and unfortunately, both are Falcons. I bought the second on clearance at the end of last summer when MS was getting rid of the Pro SKU. I was upset when the unit I received was a Falcon, but it was only going to be used for Netflix, as a media extender, and in rare cases, a backup gaming machine. So due to the DVD issues on my primary Xbox, I swapped them and that likely means I'll see an RROD on this "new" one sooner or later. I seriously thought about taking it and trading it toward the new slim at Gamestop, but I'm going to have to think through that a little more and see what they would give me. Does anyone know if Gamestop is still giving good rates on Xbox trade-ins towards the slims?
 
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So go ahead and keep me on for the dynasty as South Carolina. I'm going to try and find a replacement. My boycott of Microsoft and their ignorance didn't last very long after reading reviews of the game on rivals. July 31st should be our kick off date since it is a Saturday and will give everyone something to be excited about during the week.

So is everyone good with July 31st? Everyone should have rosters by now and practiced enough to be familiar with the game. Also once again if you want to practice against someone who doesn't straight cheese or abuse system AI friend request me at CharlestonUSC
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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So go ahead and keep me on for the dynasty as South Carolina. I'm going to try and find a replacement. My boycott of Microsoft and their ignorance didn't last very long after reading reviews of the game on rivals. July 31st should be our kick off date since it is a Saturday and will give everyone something to be excited about during the week.

So is everyone good with July 31st? Everyone should have rosters by now and practiced enough to be familiar with the game. Also once again if you want to practice against someone who doesn't straight cheese or abuse system AI friend request me at CharlestonUSC

I'm fine with that date. I want to make another post with a few polls to finalize details as well. I'll try to do that this weekend or sooner if I get time.
 

endlessmike

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This isn't really an important issue, but it's something that's always bugged me. Have they ever addressed the crowd reaction to big plays as they develop? I haven't played a new NCAA in a couple years, so maybe it's been reworked...

Say you're returning a punt, the crowd noise and reaction should grow as the play develops, and if you break free for a sure TD they should erupt into a frenzy. In the game though, there's pretty much a static crowd reaction until you score.
 
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This isn't really an important issue, but it's something that's always bugged me. Have they ever addressed the crowd reaction to big plays as they develop? I haven't played a new NCAA in a couple years, so maybe it's been reworked...

Say you're returning a punt, the crowd noise and reaction should grow as the play develops, and if you break free for a sure TD they should erupt into a frenzy. In the game though, there's pretty much a static crowd reaction until you score.

Nope that definitely does not happen in the game. You could've just been blown out at home by william and mary and you're crowd still goes ape shit at the end of the game, as if you just knocked off the #1 team in the country. I wish I could be a developer or tester for EA for this game. These have to be issues that have been brought up before and for some reason are never implemented into the game. We can always dream!
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
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Nope that definitely does not happen in the game. You could've just been blown out at home by william and mary and you're crowd still goes ape shit at the end of the game, as if you just knocked off the #1 team in the country. I wish I could be a developer or tester for EA for this game. These have to be issues that have been brought up before and for some reason are never implemented into the game. We can always dream!

One thing I did notice on NCAA 09 was that if you were blowing someone out at their home stadium, the crowd would generally thin out and you'd see lots of empty seats by the fourth. I'm not sure if that happens in NCAA 11 or not. I haven't played the game in almost a week due to being pissed off at it.
 
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