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preslove

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Huh? You said to play in a NCG you have to at least play in your conference championship game. Bama didnt do that last year. Under your scenario Bama wouldnt have been national champions last year due to be ineligible to play for it.

I didn't say all teams need to win their conference. Just shitty independent teams with terrible schedules. Like ND, which was embarrassed last night. They should at least win a conference championship game before given a shot at a national championship, not that winning a big 10 championship means much about the quality of a football team...
 

Gibsons

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From my personal experience, when Auburn is playing someone else, most 'Bama people passively root for Auburn.

National headlines prove otherwise when it comes to Auburn people rooting for 'Bama.

From my personal experience, most fans of both fanbases root passionately against the other team. It goes way back, before Updyke, before Bear Bryant called Auburn a cow college, before the Don Fuell incident.

I'm not claiming Auburn fans root for bama at all, ever. For the most part they don't.
 

theLION

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When ND is good, people watch their games hoping they will lose. When they are bad, people watch their games enjoying them lose.

This is definitely me basically.... more so this year because I really felt they didn't belong in the NCG. Every week I hoped they would lose. I really enjoyed watching the game last night hehe.
 

BigDH01

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This is definitely me basically.... more so this year because I really felt they didn't belong in the NCG. Every week I hoped they would lose. I really enjoyed watching the game last night hehe.

What's scary is how close we came to a NCG that featured KSU and ND, two teams that were exposed in their bowl games. An eight team playoff can't arrive soon enough.
 

thraashman

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I didn't say all teams need to win their conference. Just shitty independent teams with terrible schedules. Like ND, which was embarrassed last night. They should at least win a conference championship game before given a shot at a national championship, not that winning a big 10 championship means much about the quality of a football team...

The best out of conference opponent Bama had was Michigan, who Notre Dame also played and beat. If you look at schedules, Bama played and beat 3 "good" teams, Michigan, LSU, Georgia. They lost to Texas A&M. Notre Dame played and beat 3 "good" teams also, Michigan, Stanford, Oklahoma. So it's not like Notre Dame had some cupcake schedule, they actually played several good opponents. And it's not like Bama dominated most of it's tough opponents, they beat LSU and UGA by 4 each and both those games could have gone either way. Before last night the only time this season that Notre Dame looked bad was the Pitt game, the rest of the time they looked like a National Championship team. Unfortunately for ND the same team that played Pitt is who showed up last night.

So long as ND is independent though they'll have trouble scheduling multiple tough opponents, most teams don't want too tough of an out of conference schedule. The SEC is notorious for their teams having very weak out of conference schedules, so I doubt any would schedule ND in the next few years.
 

Spineshank

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What's scary is how close we came to a NCG that featured KSU and ND, two teams that were exposed in their bowl games. An eight team playoff can't arrive soon enough.


KSU was exposed by Baylor. A good offensive team, also one of the worst on defense. Yet KSU struggled. The B12 was very overrated this year as well. Oregon should have played Bama.
 

preslove

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The best out of conference opponent Bama had was Michigan, who Notre Dame also played and beat. If you look at schedules, Bama played and beat 3 "good" teams, Michigan, LSU, Georgia. They lost to Texas A&M. Notre Dame played and beat 3 "good" teams also, Michigan, Stanford, Oklahoma. So it's not like Notre Dame had some cupcake schedule, they actually played several good opponents. And it's not like Bama dominated most of it's tough opponents, they beat LSU and UGA by 4 each and both those games could have gone either way. Before last night the only time this season that Notre Dame looked bad was the Pitt game, the rest of the time they looked like a National Championship team. Unfortunately for ND the same team that played Pitt is who showed up last night.

So long as ND is independent though they'll have trouble scheduling multiple tough opponents, most teams don't want too tough of an out of conference schedule. The SEC is notorious for their teams having very weak out of conference schedules, so I doubt any would schedule ND in the next few years.

Every year for the past 7 years, a dominant sec made it through their schedule to win the NCG. 'Bama humiliated ND. This is because the defensive play outstrips all other conferences. This forces SEC offenses to adapt with great running games first, specifically with O-Line play. A lot of programs fall apart under the pressure of the schedule and having one part missing. At least one team is good enough to make it out healthy and hitting on all cylinders, and that team has won the last 7 BCS titles.

And ND only struggled against Pitt? LOL

They barely beat BYU 17-14, Purdue 20-17, Michigan 13-6, USC 22-13, and Stanford 20-13 in OT. Stanford is the only good team of that bunch.

Alabama's LSU game as at LSU and its Georgia game was held in Atlanta, Georgia.
 

manly

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hah, ND ranked #4 in the final A.P. poll.

Just ahead of a couple 2-loss SEC teams, but that seems a bit generous after last night.
 

SearchMaster

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So long as ND is independent though they'll have trouble scheduling multiple tough opponents, most teams don't want too tough of an out of conference schedule. The SEC is notorious for their teams having very weak out of conference schedules, so I doubt any would schedule ND in the next few years.

ND has partially joined the ACC so 5 of their 12 games every year will be against ACC teams. It's actually pretty easy for them to schedule good teams because ND is always a strong OOC draw wherever they go.
 

amish

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as a Notre Dame fan, last night was embarrassing. Made the right assignments, at times, but then didn't tackle. Te'o looked lost. Calabrese got pummeled by the Bama front line. Hats off to the O-line.

Our offense didn't do anything. We were lucky that Bama screwed up to give us 14. Golic Jr. is sub-par, borderline terrible. I watched him miss so many blocks. Why we didn't even try to run is beyond me.

Bama imposed it's will and ND just sat there and took it. We should have dropped from the top 5 after that performance.
 

lupi

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ND has been shit for 2 decades. They'll continue to be shit and will never win another championship. Eventually, that will lose them their ridiculous contract.

yeah, except facts get in you way. not only does NBC have it's normal channel to program for, they have a 24hr sports channel now and would love more college FB to show. problem is, most places already are locked up in contracts, and NBC wasnt even able to spend enough money to buy NDs entire broadcast as they now have a couple games carried on ABC/ESPN.
 

Spineshank

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Every year for the past 7 years, a dominant sec made it through their schedule to win the NCG. 'Bama humiliated ND. This is because the defensive play outstrips all other conferences. This forces SEC offenses to adapt with great running games first, specifically with O-Line play. A lot of programs fall apart under the pressure of the schedule and having one part missing. At least one team is good enough to make it out healthy and hitting on all cylinders, and that team has won the last 7 BCS titles.

And ND only struggled against Pitt? LOL

They barely beat BYU 17-14, Purdue 20-17, Michigan 13-6, USC 22-13, and Stanford 20-13 in OT. Stanford is the only good team of that bunch.

Alabama's LSU game as at LSU and its Georgia game was held in Atlanta, Georgia.

Not trying to stick up for UM here but they did lose 4 out of their 5 games to top 10 teams..3 in the top 5. I think they could have been a top 10 team with Gardner at QB all year but whatever.
 
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