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Mermaidman

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Originally posted by: jjones
Great game. Hate to see the Pats win but they deserved it. I do think Fox blew it though going for the 2 point conversion when the game was 21 - 16. I know it was justified thinking about going for the 2 points but when they called the play, I was thinking that I'd rather just have the extra point; there was still way too much time on the clock. That game winning field goal by NE would have just been a game tying kick to send the game into overtime.
I don't understand your math??
 

EXman

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Tom Brady = Next Joe Montana?

might just be

Congratz

Nice Cadilac Convertible for you Tom!
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: Kev
not that it mattered in the end, but why did stupid tom brady call a timeout with 9 seconds left? why didn't he just wait till the clock hits 2 so they dont even give the panthers a chance to return a kick?

calling a guy stupid after he leads his team to a super bowl win?

the decision was stupid. if carolina returned the kick for a td it would have been his fault. just because there weren't bad consequences doesn't make it a good choice. are you able to comprehend that?

oh please, if they would have run the ball back for a touchdown, i would have blamed the 11 guys on the field that let him score that TD.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: EXman
Tom Brady = Next Joe Montana?

might just be

Congratz

Nice Cadilac Convertible for you Tom!

Aw come on, he through a goddamn interception in the redzone, and Delhomme and muhammed had the longest TD pass in SB history.
 

Spencer278

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: EXman
Tom Brady = Next Joe Montana?

might just be

Congratz

Nice Cadilac Convertible for you Tom!

Aw come on, he through a goddamn interception in the redzone, and Delhomme and muhammed had the longest TD pass in SB history.

Yeah but they lost so who cares.
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: Kev
not that it mattered in the end, but why did stupid tom brady call a timeout with 9 seconds left? why didn't he just wait till the clock hits 2 so they dont even give the panthers a chance to return a kick?

calling a guy stupid after he leads his team to a super bowl win?

the decision was stupid. if carolina returned the kick for a td it would have been his fault. just because there weren't bad consequences doesn't make it a good choice. are you able to comprehend that?

oh please, if they would have run the ball back for a touchdown, i would have blamed the 11 guys on the field that let him score that TD.

in other words you don't understand what i just said. let's see another rolling eyes picture, it really makes you look smart.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: Spencer278
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: EXman
Tom Brady = Next Joe Montana?

might just be

Congratz

Nice Cadilac Convertible for you Tom!

Aw come on, he through a goddamn interception in the redzone, and Delhomme and muhammed had the longest TD pass in SB history.

Yeah but they lost so who cares.

People who understand the game? My dad said the exact same thing though, "Well it won't matter if we don't win". But why not? How does not winning the game nullify the whole play? It did happen, and it should be remembered.

 

jjones

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Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Originally posted by: jjones
Great game. Hate to see the Pats win but they deserved it. I do think Fox blew it though going for the 2 point conversion when the game was 21 - 16. I know it was justified thinking about going for the 2 points but when they called the play, I was thinking that I'd rather just have the extra point; there was still way too much time on the clock. That game winning field goal by NE would have just been a game tying kick to send the game into overtime.
I don't understand your math??
The Panthers tried 2 two point conversions. They gave up 2 points they would have had if they just went for PATs. This also casued NE to go for, and get an additional point when they converted on their 2 point conversion. NE would never have tried a 2 point conversion; it would have been completely pointless. At the end of the game, the score wuld have been 31 Panthers, 28 NE. That last field goal attempt would have been to just tie the game.

 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
patriots got lucky.....

man casey must feel like crap right now

Well, I still don't blame him. The way our secondary was playing (the field being no help) it was bound to happen.
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Spencer278
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: EXman
Tom Brady = Next Joe Montana?

might just be

Congratz

Nice Cadilac Convertible for you Tom!

Aw come on, he through a goddamn interception in the redzone, and Delhomme and muhammed had the longest TD pass in SB history.

Yeah but they lost so who cares.

People who understand the game? My dad said the exact same thing though, "Well it won't matter if we don't win". But why not? How does not winning the game nullify the whole play? It did happen, and it should be remembered.

Because that pick didn't result in the panthers winning the game. Kasay kicking the ball out of bounds allowed the patriots to get good field position, then allowed them to kick the winning FG after driving down the field. That bonehead kick will be remembered more that Brady's pick IMO
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Spencer278
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: EXman
Tom Brady = Next Joe Montana?

might just be

Congratz

Nice Cadilac Convertible for you Tom!

Aw come on, he through a goddamn interception in the redzone, and Delhomme and muhammed had the longest TD pass in SB history.

Yeah but they lost so who cares.

People who understand the game? My dad said the exact same thing though, "Well it won't matter if we don't win". But why not? How does not winning the game nullify the whole play? It did happen, and it should be remembered.

Because that pick didn't result in the panthers winning the game. Kasay kicking the ball out of bounds allowed the patriots to get good field position, then allowed them to kick the winning FG after driving down the field. That bonehead kick will be remembered more that Brady's pick IMO

Probably so, but...forget it.
 

FreshPrince

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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Spencer278
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: EXman Tom Brady = Next Joe Montana? might just be Congratz Nice Cadilac Convertible for you Tom!
Aw come on, he through a goddamn interception in the redzone, and Delhomme and muhammed had the longest TD pass in SB history.
Yeah but they lost so who cares.
People who understand the game? My dad said the exact same thing though, "Well it won't matter if we don't win". But why not? How does not winning the game nullify the whole play? It did happen, and it should be remembered.
Because that pick didn't result in the panthers winning the game. Kasay kicking the ball out of bounds allowed the patriots to get good field position, then allowed them to kick the winning FG after driving down the field. That bonehead kick will be remembered more that Brady's pick IMO

ya, that was a dumb move kicking the ball out of bounds :|
 

kenshorin

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What a great game. First half was dominating offensive struggle, setting the board so to speak, then WHAM. What a game. I was really impressed with the Panthers and how they hung in there, very smashmouth style, I dug them, but unfortunately I loves my PATS!!!!!!! :beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:
 

jjones

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Originally posted by: KLin

Because that pick didn't result in the panthers winning the game. Kasay kicking the ball out of bounds allowed the patriots to get good field position, then allowed them to kick the winning FG after driving down the field. That bonehead kick will be remembered more that Brady's pick IMO
You're probably right but Vinatieri's kick will be remembered even more. Besides, the Panthers defense wasn't exactly stopping NE, so the chances are that NE would have been kicking that field goal attempt anyway. The mistakes I thought of in the game were the 2 point conversion attempts and the time out called by the Panthers before they scored their last touchdown. Couldn't understand calling that time out; they should have been running the clock down considering the fact the NE scored a TD in the last minute of the first half.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: KLin

Because that pick didn't result in the panthers winning the game. Kasay kicking the ball out of bounds allowed the patriots to get good field position, then allowed them to kick the winning FG after driving down the field. That bonehead kick will be remembered more that Brady's pick IMO
You're probably right but Vinatieri's kick will be remembered even more. Besides, the Panthers defense wasn't exactly stopping NE, so the chances are that NE would have been kicking that field goal attempt anyway. The mistakes I thought of in the game were the 2 point conversion attempts and the time out called by the Panthers before they scored their last touchdown. Couldn't understand calling that time out; they should have been running the clock down considering the fact the NE scored a TD in the last minute of the first half.

I agree, and I am a panther fan. Our secondary was absolutely horrible today.
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: KLin

Because that pick didn't result in the panthers winning the game. Kasay kicking the ball out of bounds allowed the patriots to get good field position, then allowed them to kick the winning FG after driving down the field. That bonehead kick will be remembered more that Brady's pick IMO
You're probably right but Vinatieri's kick will be remembered even more. Besides, the Panthers defense wasn't exactly stopping NE, so the chances are that NE would have been kicking that field goal attempt anyway. The mistakes I thought of in the game were the 2 point conversion attempts and the time out called by the Panthers before they scored their last touchdown. Couldn't understand calling that time out; they should have been running the clock down considering the fact the NE scored a TD in the last minute of the first half.

I don't think that will be the case. It comes back to the fact that the Patriots pulled out the W, and Kasay helped the cause with that kick. The screw-ups that cost your team the game are always remembered before the screw-ups that almost cost your team the game. Scott Norwood comes to mind
 

Deeko

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I'm so tired of seeing these Brady-Montana comparisons. Brady is a very good QB right now, yes, but come on, Montana is arguably the best QB in NFL history.
 

tec699

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: tec699
Originally posted by: Hubris
Originally posted by: tec699
Did my Cowboys win the game?

Not in, like, forever.





It just ain't the Superbowl without the boys! Don't you dudes agree?

I lived in Philly when Howard Kosel deemed Dallas "Americas team"

Howie used to say things like "It must be such an honor for the Eagles to be playing against such a superior force"

Well, Howie was walking through a fan accessable area (he was below)

We unloaded our used beer on him.

That answer your question?



And I would have beat you guys up if you did that to me!




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