Neanderthals kill neanderthals (Texas biker shootings)

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Londo_Jowo

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I thought they were a joke. They have their "meetings" at a local bar in town (Bremerton). They got all these patches like the boys scouts. Looked like a bunch of wanabes.

Did not notice any majority or even significant hispanic membership at least with our local chapter. Just looked like a bunch of adults that never grew up.

The Texas chapters tend to have a larger Hispanic membership. In fact I would say most of the bike gangs in Texas are that way.
 

JackBurton

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White trash thug culture. Guns, Nazi tats and motorcycles.
Too bad so many were old and fat and couldn't take each other out faster and make the world a better place.

This seems like a very racist post, calling white people trash and thugs. Can I get some outrage here?

I think I have some credit left on my race card.
 

fskimospy

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This seems like a very racist post, calling white people trash and thugs. Can I get some outrage here?

I think I have some credit left on my race card.

I agree, it does seem like a denigrating post, and one that tries to lump white people together unfairly! I imagine you have also called out similar posts made about black people as we can all agree such stereotypes are wrong.

I'm worried that some people might think that you haven't made such posts in the past and would therefore be engaging to similar hypocrisy as to what you're trying to call out here. I'm sure that's not the case but to save us all some time can you link to those posts?
 

Londo_Jowo

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White trash thug culture. Guns, Nazi tats and motorcycles.
Too bad so many were old and fat and couldn't take each other out faster and make the world a better place.

You may be partially correct when it comes to the Cossacks and the Scimitars however, I somehow don't think the Bandidos and Los Pirados would be considered white trash or wear Nazi tats.
 

FerrelGeek

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Thugs and their heavy metal hate music.

There's a lot of heavy metal that isn't full of hate, bro. Just like hip hop. There's a lot of metal that's very innovative. You need to broaden your appreciation of music.
 

Brian Stirling

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It should be pointed out that although most of the bikers are white there were many Hispanic and a few black among them. And, they ARE all thugs -- they would not make it passed pledge if they were not.

CNN has been going on and on today about the difference in the way the police treated these guys versus the blacks in Ferguson etc. They simply can't resist making this about race.


Brian
 

Blackjack200

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There's a lot of heavy metal that isn't full of hate, bro. Just like hip hop. There's a lot of metal that's very innovative. You need to broaden your appreciation of music.

I think he was being ironic.

It should be pointed out that although most of the bikers are white there were many Hispanic and a few black among them. And, they ARE all thugs -- they would not make it passed pledge if they were not.

CNN has been going on and on today about the difference in the way the police treated these guys versus the blacks in Ferguson etc. They simply can't resist making this about race.

Brian

Who, the cops?
 

fskimospy

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It should be pointed out that although most of the bikers are white there were many Hispanic and a few black among them. And, they ARE all thugs -- they would not make it passed pledge if they were not.

CNN has been going on and on today about the difference in the way the police treated these guys versus the blacks in Ferguson etc. They simply can't resist making this about race.

Brian

Do you think there was a difference?
 

Brian Stirling

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Do you think there was a difference?

Yes, on both sides!

In this case 9 bikers were killed and it looks like about 4 of those were killed by police. We do know that no police officer was killed or for that matter hit by gunfire so it may be the case that the bikers didn't fire at police at all. Did you see any scenes of bikers resisting arrest -- I didn't.

It would be interesting to know if there is any video footage that depicts the actions between the moment the shit hit the fan and when video/still show many bikers sitting on curbs. It's not clear that the bikers put up much of a fight with the police at all.

There have been other cases where there has been clear deference on the part of police to the criminal actions of others. A year or so ago when the ranchers out west were spoiling for a fight with the federal government over the fees paid for grazing the ranchers showed up heavily armed and the police clearly stood down. Perhaps what the urban black and Hispanic communities need to do is come in in droves publicly brandishing heavy weapons.


Brian
 

bshole

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Interesting take on this by a black woman. I believe she was being ironic but I could be wrong. Evidently liberals want to drag race into it just as much as conservatives.

Following a spate of white-on-white violence over the weekend in Waco, Texas, that claimed nine lives and resulted in scores of casualties and over 190 arrests, there has been a marked lack of interest in talking about where the event fits into the epidemic of such white criminal behavior in the U.S. -- despite the fact that every year, more white people are murdered by white people than by any other group.
In recent years, a national pattern has begun to emerge in the wake of shootings in which a black man is killed by a white man. Of course the death is a tragedy, goes the narrative, but the dead man probably provoked the killing somehow -- and more importantly, if you truly care about young black men, why aren't you more concerned about black-on-black violence?
The same pattern doesn't hold even when white-on-white crime unfolds in full view of the nation, as it did in the parking lot of the Twin Peaks Restaurant on Sunday.
Yet white-on-white crime should be a huge concern -- because it’s out of control. Granted, there are 201 thugs off the streets for the time being, but what about the rest of them?
Around 83 percent of white victims in 2011 were murdered by other whites, based on the most recent FBI homicide data.
As many as 3,172 white people were killed in 2011 -- and 2,630 of them lost their lives at the hands of another white person. This is compared to 2,695 black people, 2,447 of whom were killed by another black person.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/18/waco-texas-biker-gang_n_7307050.html
 

fskimospy

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Yes, on both sides!

In this case 9 bikers were killed and it looks like about 4 of those were killed by police. We do know that no police officer was killed or for that matter hit by gunfire so it may be the case that the bikers didn't fire at police at all. Did you see any scenes of bikers resisting arrest -- I didn't.

It would be interesting to know if there is any video footage that depicts the actions between the moment the shit hit the fan and when video/still show many bikers sitting on curbs. It's not clear that the bikers put up much of a fight with the police at all.

They didn't put up much of a fight except for the massive gun battle in which 9 people died. The police clearly thought they presented enough of a threat to shoot and kill 4 of them. Let me just say that I find it unlikely that the police action OR the reporting on the issue would have been the same if there was a massive black gang war that erupted.

There have been other cases where there has been clear deference on the part of police to the criminal actions of others. A year or so ago when the ranchers out west were spoiling for a fight with the federal government over the fees paid for grazing the ranchers showed up heavily armed and the police clearly stood down. Perhaps what the urban black and Hispanic communities need to do is come in in droves publicly brandishing heavy weapons.

Brian

I can only imagine the collective national freakout if an armed gang of black people picked up some heavy weapons and demanded millions in welfare (like Cliven Bundy did). I feel very confident it would not end well.
 

bshole

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I can only imagine the collective national freakout if an armed gang of black people picked up some heavy weapons and demanded millions in welfare (like Cliven Bundy did). I feel very confident it would not end well.

What ever happened to that douche? Is he still freeloading?
 

xBiffx

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I can only imagine the collective national freakout if an armed gang of black people picked up some heavy weapons and demanded millions in welfare (like Cliven Bundy did). I feel very confident it would not end well.

Minor, but rather important, differences there. First, one person on welfare (as you put it) ≠ many on welfare. Second, urban dweller's view on guns ≠ rural dweller's views on guns.

So yeah, comparing the two is pretty silly. Not sure why he went there.
 

Brian Stirling

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They didn't put up much of a fight except for the massive gun battle in which 9 people died. The police clearly thought they presented enough of a threat to shoot and kill 4 of them. Let me just say that I find it unlikely that the police action OR the reporting on the issue would have been the same if there was a massive black gang war that erupted.



I can only imagine the collective national freakout if an armed gang of black people picked up some heavy weapons and demanded millions in welfare (like Cliven Bundy did). I feel very confident it would not end well.

As I said, it would be nice to see video of the events after the shit hit the fan and just what violence the bikers aimed at the police. The fact that 4 of the bikers were killed by police doesn't prove very much in itself as the police may simply have shot at bikers that were shooting at other bikers. Again, it would be interesting to know for sure what resistance, if any, the bikers offered up to the police.

I have zero doubt that there would be a collective freakout if an armed gang of blacks or Hispanics confronted the police. The manor of response that the police and other agencies like the FBI and ATF was changed in the wake of Ruby Ridge and Waco, the first Waco.

It is interesting that many on the right can comfortably point fingers at urban blacks for the challenge they make to authorities but would whine and cry if the police didn't back down to the likes of Randy Weaver, David Koresh, or Clive Bundy.

The police are in a difficult place right now and I can well imagine they simply don't know what to do. Do they acquiesce to the mob be they white, black or other? Do they project force to suppress the mob? There does not appear to be any answer that everyone would like.


Brian
 

Brian Stirling

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I was sitting the waiting room at the doctor's office this afternoon and they had CNN on and the topic was "Why aren't the bikers being called "thugs"?"

Yep, seems like I called the bikers "dirtbag thugs" early on.

Yes, and as the OP I called them Neanderthals -- can you imagine the outrage if I'd made the same comment about the rioters in Baltimore.

Sadly, CNN and others on the left want WANT to make things about race. Even sadder is that when you overuse this charge you alienate many that might otherwise work with you. This isn't to say that the Republican Propaganda Network, ie FoxNews, isn't playing the race card, they are and they are similarly not helping!


Brian
 
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