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alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Linux23
she told me that if you are american, the women do throw themselves at you. i wonder why this is the case?

It's going to take a lot more than just being american It's like the hot spainard that comes here vs. the fat, pockmarked one. Both have a nice 'accent', but only one is going to get any hot chicks.

Same in Japan, chances are if you are a good looking american you will get ALOT of attention, however, just average or below probably just made fun of.

Å
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Linux23
she told me that if you are american, the women do throw themselves at you. i wonder why this is the case?

It's going to take a lot more than just being american It's like the hot spainard that comes here vs. the fat, pockmarked one. Both have a nice 'accent', but only one is going to get any hot chicks.

Same in Japan, chances are if you are a good looking american you will get ALOT of attention, however, just average or below probably just made fun of.

Å

How bout me Alkemyst? I've got a red-haired white man's fro (read: curly bushy hair, kinda like a perm but natural) and a full beard. I'm 6'1" 170 lbs and have green eyes. Think I'll get any dates?
 

Nuriko

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I personally would recommend against this or at least waiting a few months while you research more about what you want to get into. However, you seem set on it anyways, so I will try to give some advice. First, there are tons of pages on the net with information about this very subject. One of my favorites is http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/japanese.html

As for cash, bring lots, as in 15k+ Not only is the cost of living huge, but with no means of support for a few months and no place to stay (so far) you will go through it incredibly quickly. If possible, check ( before you leave) to see if you can get reservations at a youth hotal (caters mainly to students and is decently cheap per night at around 30-40/night). Also when looking for an apartment be aware that you will have to shell out 3-4 months rent as a non refundable gift as well as the deposit and first months rent (which all quickly adds up). And take into consideration that many places will not rent to you.

As far as language, go get some basic language books, phrase books and a good dictionary (for recs check the lists at amazon). Also, even if you are gifted with languages, Japanese will be a far cry from anything you have learned before. As for gaining fluence, even with the total emersion, I have never, and I mean never, heard of anyone becoming fluent in less than a few years. Sure, you will be able to have some conversations after a few months of intense study, but many things will still throw you.

As for jobs, I have never heard of a English speaking VA. It is true that there are some english speaking commericals, but only american celebrities do these. As for translation, you will not be able to, period. Employers want fluent people (usually shown through both sample work and Level 1 Japanese proficienty (which is a comprehesive test)). As for teaching, it's possible, but like others have said, other people with degrees are also trying to get the work, so I imagine it would be hard to get. On the up side, it does pay well from what I have heard.
 

yhlee

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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: atom

Let's just put it this way: I've been into anime, manga, cars & racing (WRC & JGTC are da bomb), samurai, and just about everything else Japanese for longer than I care to remember. It's always been my dream to go there and now I'm going to make it happen.
I'm not claiming to be some expert on Japan or it's people & their culture, I'm just fascinated by it is all.


Hey, more power to you and your dreams.. I wish I could pursue mine but i'm too old for that stuff now

Anyways, your sentence "I've been into anime, manga, cars & racing (WRC & JGTC are da bomb), samurai, and just about everything else Japanese" I have to say is funny. I know you meant well but I could see some Japanese dude wanting to come to the US to do voice acting saying: "I've been into rock and roll, sex, drugs, weapons of mass destruction and just about everything else American."

-young
 

kami333

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Well, before saying anything else I want to wish you luck. I'm in a similar situation, I want to move to Denmark (for a year or two) where I spent a semester abroad and am in the process of looking at my options. Hopefully my study aboard program will take me as an intern then I'd be all set.

Definately get your work and visa set up before you go over. Just showing up isn't socially accepted even from a foreigner and will just make things more difficult. By work experience, I think everyone means experience related to what you are going to be doing. Selling computers does not count as work experience in teaching English.

Translating jobs are a tough gig, too many translators, too few jobs. A degree helps because many places will prefer you know what you are translating. Though it does pay pretty well, I just did a subtitling job for a medical gear company which paid fairly well.

If you are interested in JET/NOVA, get involved in teaching English. You could try volunteering at a homeless shelter or some place that has a literacy program. My friend who wants to do the JET program does it and he says it helps show that you know what you are doing and are serious.

Oh, and don't count on being able to eat beef bowls at Yoshinoya for long. They're running out of their meat stocks due to the ban on US beef from BSE fears (they got 80% of their meat from the US, the remaining 20% from Australia) so they've announced that they are considering switching to chicken and fish bowls by mid Feb when their stocks will run out if the ban isn't lifted.

If you plan on staying for more than a few years, plase go with a long term plan. I meet way too many guys in Japan who've been in Japan for many years, at a dead-end jb (ie teaching English) and their only goal is to sleep with Japanese women.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: kami333
and their only goal is to sleep with Japanese women.

not that that is such a terrible goal ...doesn't do much to help plan a retirement though

If you are a good-looking guy you can do well with women in Japan....more than likely pulling in way hotter chicks than you could here unless you were rich. As a woman I am not sure how non-blondes do, but for a while there was kidnapping of blue eyed, blonde haired women....

Å
 

BubbaMorg

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Hmmm, just read the entire thread. I currently live in Japan, been here for three years, doing one more and going home. Some info for you:

VISA: a tourist visa is stamped in your passport when you hit immigration. It's good for 90 days, and you need to show a return/on-going ticket to your next destination outside of Japan within that timeframe. Tell them you're looking for work and you'll be headed home on the next flight. Overstay this visa and go to jail. Japanese do not like foreigners who show up and look for work. Stand in line with the rest of China/Korea/Thailand/Brazil/Malaysia/Indonesia and all the other people lined up.

WORK VISA: you MUST have at least a two-year degree to get a job, period, unless you are married to a Japanese woman and have a spouse visa. If you want to work for any mainstream English program, you need a bachelor's degree. If you want to work at some chichi -n- haha English teaching joint, you still need a two-year degree. NEED A DEGREE TO LIVE IN JAPAN (I have a A.A.S. in electronics, any subject will probably work, but fine arts is better...I also had a serious hookup into a good, reputable company)

Notes: it is possible to get a job while here on a toursit visa, however, the company that hires you will have to have a contract made up for you with a term of commitment, and you will have to submit this paperwork to a Japanese consolate OUTSIDE of Japan...so figure for taking a minimum five day trip home or to Guam or Singapore or someplace before you get it. There is no work-around for this. This was my situation (I was in the States and needed too quickly for the proper paperwork to be filed, as a I had six days between being called out of the blue for the job and leaving. I came to Japan and left after 89 days and spent five weeks getting it sorted out in the States before I came back).

LANGUAGE: I don't speak Japanese, though I'm learning, and my wife is Japanese (married last March), but I will probably never be fluent. Fluency takes at least 4 years of serious study, even Japanese have difficulty with kanji (which takes twenty years to master) and I've been here three years and know basically how to shop and order food. Phone conversations are still out of the question. I work too much to seriously study, and my workplace is half-American/Japanese, so I rarely speak Japanese. It's more of a kind of pigeon-Japanese, anyway. Forget jobs in translating or Japanese voiceovers, those are reserved for either bi-lingual Japanese (from birth, basically) or really famous foreigners (i.e., Bob Sapp). Probably the most used western language here besides English is Portuguese. There are lots of Brazilians here.

HOUSING: Usually provided by your contracted company. If you're here on a tourist visa, gooooooood luck, but seriously, head to a hostel or a hotel. Permanent housing is out of the question. I pay $800/month for a two bedroom apartment in northern Japan where living is relatively cheap. Tokyo is twice as expensive. The wife and I just wasted $1800 on a three day trip there. We did not live exorbitantly, and stayed in middle-class hotels. Everything posted above about housing cost is absolutely correct. Luckily, my company picked up the tab.

TRAVEL: Japan is the most expensive country in the world to travel in. If you're coming on a tourist visa, get a Japan Rail Pass, good for a few days and all Japan Railways (JR) travel is free. Otherwise, empty your wallet at the Midori-no-madoguchi and get on the train. Local trains and subways are pretty good. Taxi's are spendy. Buses are decent. Shinkansen's are expensive, and air travel is more so. Driving takes a pile of money, especially when figuring car costs (dealer takes a large whack in fees, government takes a large whack in taxes, the rest of the money you spend on $4/gallon gasoline) and road charges (expressways are big $$$, about $100 to go 350 miles).

THE LADIES: Ohhhhh, they dig ya. Afterall, they're thinking, you got into Japan, so you're either military (diggin' the uni) or have a four-year degree from Princeton, a suave job, and a free ticket with spousal visa to the U.S. in hand.

THE END OF THE WORLD: You'll be livin' next to Kim Jong-ILL and his nukes. And the Japanese HATE North Korea and dislike most other Asians. And North Korea HATES Japan, and most other Asian countries dislike Japan, but not for the fact that that's where their money comes from. And Japan is heading to the end just like the rest. I'm surprised what I've seen in three years here.

So, my advice? Come to play, man. Blow that money, see if you like it, if you do, get a degree and come back. Maybe you'll get a hookup. Who knows? Hope my rant helps.
 

alkemyst

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I am not disagreeing so much as to clarify and comment on some things

Originally posted by: BubbaMorg

VISA: a tourist visa is stamped in your passport when you hit immigration. It's good for 90 days, and you need to show a return/on-going ticket to your next destination outside of Japan within that timeframe. Tell them you're looking for work and you'll be headed home on the next flight. Overstay this visa and go to jail. Japanese do not like foreigners who show up and look for work. Stand in line with the rest of China/Korea/Thailand/Brazil/Malaysia/Indonesia and all the other people lined up.

WORK VISA: you MUST have at least a two-year degree to get a job, period, unless you are married to a Japanese woman and have a spouse visa. If you want to work for any mainstream English program, you need a bachelor's degree. If you want to work at some chichi -n- haha English teaching joint, you still need a two-year degree. NEED A DEGREE TO LIVE IN JAPAN (I have a A.A.S. in electronics, any subject will probably work, but fine arts is better...I also had a serious hookup into a good, reputable company)

Well the Visa depends on the reason of course you are getting it....same way with Japanese people coming here. They can do tourist, K, H, F, etc....it really depends on why you need the VISA.

As far as competition there are indeed many foreigners looking for Japan work....however, saying a degree is always required I am not sure about that as I know a few americans over there without degrees. However I am not sure as to the status of how they originally came there (marriage was a big one, and another I know was originally 'sponsered' by a US company). Having a sponser or Japanese reference is important though if you are planning on living there....travelling through and thinking you can come back next time and stay are two very different things.

Notes: it is possible to get a job while here on a toursit visa, however, the company that hires you will have to have a contract made up for you with a term of commitment, and you will have to submit this paperwork to a Japanese consolate OUTSIDE of Japan...so figure for taking a minimum five day trip home or to Guam or Singapore or someplace before you get it. There is no work-around for this. This was my situation (I was in the States and needed too quickly for the proper paperwork to be filed, as a I had six days between being called out of the blue for the job and leaving. I came to Japan and left after 89 days and spent five weeks getting it sorted out in the States before I came back).

Very excellent point (same is true for some things Japanese people need to do to stay here)...make sure you have all the things needed done first....assuming you can just go to the American Consulate in Japan and get situated is not true most of the time....then you will need another VISA, perhaps expensive air fare and what not. Many fees here are cheaper than getting the same thing in Japan....sending mail is like that. Way cheaper to do alot of it from here to Japan than for Japan to send it back.

LANGUAGE:

This is a very YMMV thing....some are good with languages others not. Kanji is not so required, but twenty years may be a good estimate to know them all. You can get by with Hiragana and Katakana, about 30 or so symbols (both are the same except one is more simplified)...these are the constant + vowel combinations used for all Japanese words....my wife's name Hiroe is written as Hi Ro E... Telephone is very hard for her too, even though she does well face to face in english.

HOUSING: Usually provided by your contracted company. If you're here on a tourist visa, gooooooood luck, but seriously, head to a hostel or a hotel. Permanent housing is out of the question. I pay $800/month for a two bedroom apartment in northern Japan where living is relatively cheap. Tokyo is twice as expensive. The wife and I just wasted $1800 on a three day trip there. We did not live exorbitantly, and stayed in middle-class hotels. Everything posted above about housing cost is absolutely correct. Luckily, my company picked up the tab.

Thanks for sharing that as well, I don't know why people think I am making it up about Tokyo being expensive....there are of course hostels and the like but those are permanent residences....also almost anything that is on the cheap side there has problems....ground floor dwellings are uncomfortable due to the humidity....some don't mind it though....also you need to know what you are living next too....so many americans I know travelled there based on pictures of the accomidations only to have their walls shake violently and contastly with the 4 or so trains passing by every 5-10mins 24 hours a day. Sure you may get used to it, but not during a 1 week to 1 month vacation.

TRAVEL: Japan is the most expensive country in the world to travel in. If you're coming on a tourist visa, get a Japan Rail Pass, good for a few days and all Japan Railways (JR) travel is free. Otherwise, empty your wallet at the Midori-no-madoguchi and get on the train. Local trains and subways are pretty good. Taxi's are spendy. Buses are decent. Shinkansen's are expensive, and air travel is more so. Driving takes a pile of money, especially when figuring car costs (dealer takes a large whack in fees, government takes a large whack in taxes, the rest of the money you spend on $4/gallon gasoline) and road charges (expressways are big $$$, about $100 to go 350 miles).

Right from the source, someone who knows both US and Japan's system! Toll's are another thing americans think are probably 'exaggerated'....many people don't bother with cars because of this thing, plus you can't just go buy a used car....used cars are inspected more ($$$$), taxed higher, and other fees....it makes driving a used car more expensive than a new car. Fortunately they make cheap cars sort of like 4 wheeled scooters . I have known 2 guys whose dreams of driving GT-R's were ruined ...they both did do a test drive/class though

I may be there in April (if not my wife only for a home visit) or later in the year after that.....taxes are going to rape me this year I think.

Å
 

BubbaMorg

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Well the Visa depends on the reason of course you are getting it....same way with Japanese people coming here. They can do tourist, K, H, F, etc....it really depends on why you need the VISA.

As far as competition there are indeed many foreigners looking for Japan work....however, saying a degree is always required I am not sure about that as I know a few americans over there without degrees. However I am not sure as to the status of how they originally came there (marriage was a big one, and another I know was originally 'sponsered' by a US company). Having a sponser or Japanese reference is important though if you are planning on living there....travelling through and thinking you can come back next time and stay are two very different things.

Right from the source, someone who knows both US and Japan's system! Toll's are another thing americans think are probably 'exaggerated'....many people don't bother with cars because of this thing, plus you can't just go buy a used car....used cars are inspected more ($$$$), taxed higher, and other fees....it makes driving a used car more expensive than a new car. Fortunately they make cheap cars sort of like 4 wheeled scooters . I have known 2 guys whose dreams of driving GT-R's were ruined ...they both did do a test drive/class though

Well, basically, if you have no contacts here, then you gotta have a degree. It's required by the Japanese government to issue you a visa if you're getting a work visa (maybe depending on the field). The work-around is to come here and go to school on that visa and adjust it to a work visa, or be married to a resident. The only visa you will get by showing up at Narita immigration with nothing is the tourist visa. Everybody else here I know who doesn't have a work visa is on a spouse visa. The only way to get in with no degree is to know someone really well on the inside (a sponsor), and hope they can cop their ward office into looking the other way (been there, done that).

I've used all of the transportation modes here, except for domestic air travel, which I'll be using next summer. I own a 92 Skyline GTSt type M (single turbo 2WD), a Honda scooter and have a Japanese driver's license (and passed my test on the first try....try that). It definitely helps to have a translator for this stuff. Everything legal is a pile of kanji. Come to think of it, you also have to have a seal made in order to sign official documents, company records, and all other things like that...mine is registered so I can buy cars and such. I was also in a bad car wreck here last year, but I must say the insurance companies are decent, though the police leave a bit to be desired in this circumstance. Luckily the wreck was 100% the other guy's fault and I scored a Skyline out of it.
 

FriedToast

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I was looking at Skylines, too. Was tempted to get one, but ended up w/ a Toyota Ceres instead. Oh, well. It was easy to get, though- didn't have to deal w/ dealer costs (bought it from Boss's brother).

As for the Japan suggestions, as someone living here, there's not much more that I can think to add that hasn't been said already. And Flyer, you might want to read back through these again. Some of the posts that you seemed to think were flaming were good suggestions (altho' possibly could've been better worded).

Ganbaru.
 

AndrewR

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I am not trying to throw any cold water on your "dream", but some of the previous posters in this thread are spot on when discussing your chances in Japan (or most developed countries). Immigration laws in Japan are strict, and work laws are stringent, much like in the European Union. The only sure way to get a job here is to find one before you go. I have not looked into the requirements for Japan, but I know for the EU, if you want to get a job with a company, that company must prove that a local national could not do the job. Work visas are very difficult to get in Europe (my wife tried and failed in Britain), and given the historical (and present) Japanese trend toward xenophobia, I suspect the work visa situation is at LEAST as bad here.

One avenue you could look at is getting a job working at or for an American military base with the US government. There would be no visa problems since you would fall under the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA), and you could establish yourself while you worked for the military and could look for a local job with a Japanese company.

As far as cost is concerned, you are thinking about moving to one of the most expensive cities in the world (Tokyo) while the dollar is at one its weakest points in the last few years. Rental costs are extremely high (I, meaning the military, pay $1,700/month here in Okinawa and rent is higher on the mainland), food costs are extremely high (tomatoes are about $1 each), gasoline is three times as expensive though you might not need a car, and just about everything you can think of is more expensive.

Got to go have lunch. Perhaps more later.
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: yhlee
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: atom

Let's just put it this way: I've been into anime, manga, cars & racing (WRC & JGTC are da bomb), samurai, and just about everything else Japanese for longer than I care to remember. It's always been my dream to go there and now I'm going to make it happen.
I'm not claiming to be some expert on Japan or it's people & their culture, I'm just fascinated by it is all.


Hey, more power to you and your dreams.. I wish I could pursue mine but i'm too old for that stuff now

Anyways, your sentence "I've been into anime, manga, cars & racing (WRC & JGTC are da bomb), samurai, and just about everything else Japanese" I have to say is funny. I know you meant well but I could see some Japanese dude wanting to come to the US to do voice acting saying: "I've been into rock and roll, sex, drugs, weapons of mass destruction and just about everything else American."

-young

ROFLMAO! I had fogotten about this thread for a couple days there, I'm surprised people were still posting in it... Anyway, thanks for the laugh
 

fumbduck

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Now that you realize your dreams of becoming an anime voice actor are shattered, you gonna go over and dig ditches?
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: kami333
Well, before saying anything else I want to wish you luck. I'm in a similar situation, I want to move to Denmark (for a year or two) where I spent a semester abroad and am in the process of looking at my options. Hopefully my study aboard program will take me as an intern then I'd be all set.

Definately get your work and visa set up before you go over. Just showing up isn't socially accepted even from a foreigner and will just make things more difficult. By work experience, I think everyone means experience related to what you are going to be doing. Selling computers does not count as work experience in teaching English.

Translating jobs are a tough gig, too many translators, too few jobs. A degree helps because many places will prefer you know what you are translating. Though it does pay pretty well, I just did a subtitling job for a medical gear company which paid fairly well.

If you are interested in JET/NOVA, get involved in teaching English. You could try volunteering at a homeless shelter or some place that has a literacy program. My friend who wants to do the JET program does it and he says it helps show that you know what you are doing and are serious.

Oh, and don't count on being able to eat beef bowls at Yoshinoya for long. They're running out of their meat stocks due to the ban on US beef from BSE fears (they got 80% of their meat from the US, the remaining 20% from Australia) so they've announced that they are considering switching to chicken and fish bowls by mid Feb when their stocks will run out if the ban isn't lifted.

If you plan on staying for more than a few years, plase go with a long term plan. I meet way too many guys in Japan who've been in Japan for many years, at a dead-end jb (ie teaching English) and their only goal is to sleep with Japanese women.

Thanks for the advice man, I appreciate it What do you think about getting involved in something like doing recordings for books on cds or something else along the lines of voice acting (or at least using my voice in a similar manner)? I've been told I have a very good voice for things like that (people tell me all the time I should be on the radio) and I definitely wouldn't mind hearing the sound of my own voice
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: BubbaMorg
Hmmm, just read the entire thread. I currently live in Japan, been here for three years, doing one more and going home. Some info for you:

VISA: a tourist visa is stamped in your passport when you hit immigration. It's good for 90 days, and you need to show a return/on-going ticket to your next destination outside of Japan within that timeframe. Tell them you're looking for work and you'll be headed home on the next flight. Overstay this visa and go to jail. Japanese do not like foreigners who show up and look for work. Stand in line with the rest of China/Korea/Thailand/Brazil/Malaysia/Indonesia and all the other people lined up.

WORK VISA: you MUST have at least a two-year degree to get a job, period, unless you are married to a Japanese woman and have a spouse visa. If you want to work for any mainstream English program, you need a bachelor's degree. If you want to work at some chichi -n- haha English teaching joint, you still need a two-year degree. NEED A DEGREE TO LIVE IN JAPAN (I have a A.A.S. in electronics, any subject will probably work, but fine arts is better...I also had a serious hookup into a good, reputable company)

Notes: it is possible to get a job while here on a toursit visa, however, the company that hires you will have to have a contract made up for you with a term of commitment, and you will have to submit this paperwork to a Japanese consolate OUTSIDE of Japan...so figure for taking a minimum five day trip home or to Guam or Singapore or someplace before you get it. There is no work-around for this. This was my situation (I was in the States and needed too quickly for the proper paperwork to be filed, as a I had six days between being called out of the blue for the job and leaving. I came to Japan and left after 89 days and spent five weeks getting it sorted out in the States before I came back).

LANGUAGE: I don't speak Japanese, though I'm learning, and my wife is Japanese (married last March), but I will probably never be fluent. Fluency takes at least 4 years of serious study, even Japanese have difficulty with kanji (which takes twenty years to master) and I've been here three years and know basically how to shop and order food. Phone conversations are still out of the question. I work too much to seriously study, and my workplace is half-American/Japanese, so I rarely speak Japanese. It's more of a kind of pigeon-Japanese, anyway. Forget jobs in translating or Japanese voiceovers, those are reserved for either bi-lingual Japanese (from birth, basically) or really famous foreigners (i.e., Bob Sapp). Probably the most used western language here besides English is Portuguese. There are lots of Brazilians here.

HOUSING: Usually provided by your contracted company. If you're here on a tourist visa, gooooooood luck, but seriously, head to a hostel or a hotel. Permanent housing is out of the question. I pay $800/month for a two bedroom apartment in northern Japan where living is relatively cheap. Tokyo is twice as expensive. The wife and I just wasted $1800 on a three day trip there. We did not live exorbitantly, and stayed in middle-class hotels. Everything posted above about housing cost is absolutely correct. Luckily, my company picked up the tab.

TRAVEL: Japan is the most expensive country in the world to travel in. If you're coming on a tourist visa, get a Japan Rail Pass, good for a few days and all Japan Railways (JR) travel is free. Otherwise, empty your wallet at the Midori-no-madoguchi and get on the train. Local trains and subways are pretty good. Taxi's are spendy. Buses are decent. Shinkansen's are expensive, and air travel is more so. Driving takes a pile of money, especially when figuring car costs (dealer takes a large whack in fees, government takes a large whack in taxes, the rest of the money you spend on $4/gallon gasoline) and road charges (expressways are big $$$, about $100 to go 350 miles).

THE LADIES: Ohhhhh, they dig ya. Afterall, they're thinking, you got into Japan, so you're either military (diggin' the uni) or have a four-year degree from Princeton, a suave job, and a free ticket with spousal visa to the U.S. in hand.

THE END OF THE WORLD: You'll be livin' next to Kim Jong-ILL and his nukes. And the Japanese HATE North Korea and dislike most other Asians. And North Korea HATES Japan, and most other Asian countries dislike Japan, but not for the fact that that's where their money comes from. And Japan is heading to the end just like the rest. I'm surprised what I've seen in three years here.

So, my advice? Come to play, man. Blow that money, see if you like it, if you do, get a degree and come back. Maybe you'll get a hookup. Who knows? Hope my rant helps.

Thanks for the post :beer: You should post more often
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: AndrewR

One avenue you could look at is getting a job working at or for an American military base with the US government. There would be no visa problems since you would fall under the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA), and you could establish yourself while you worked for the military and could look for a local job with a Japanese company.

Just out of sheer morbid curiousity, what exactly would this entail and how would one go about doing such a thing?
 

kami333

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Try the forums at www.japantoday.com They're pretty active, though they have a decidedly anti-Japanese bend (rather interesting since it's filled with Americans living in Japan(.
 

AndrewR

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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: AndrewR

One avenue you could look at is getting a job working at or for an American military base with the US government. There would be no visa problems since you would fall under the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA), and you could establish yourself while you worked for the military and could look for a local job with a Japanese company.

Just out of sheer morbid curiousity, what exactly would this entail and how would one go about doing such a thing?

If you live near a military installation, call the base and ask to speak to the civilian employment office. They should be able to point you in the right direction. You MIGHT have to work in the States for a bit first because you need to get a General Services (GS) job in order to come over here. The good part about it, though, is that once you do, the military will pay for your move and then set you up with a housing allowance and cost of living allowance here. You would most likely need a college degree though.
 

kami333

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Originally posted by: AndrewR
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: AndrewR

One avenue you could look at is getting a job working at or for an American military base with the US government. There would be no visa problems since you would fall under the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA), and you could establish yourself while you worked for the military and could look for a local job with a Japanese company.

Just out of sheer morbid curiousity, what exactly would this entail and how would one go about doing such a thing?

If you live near a military installation, call the base and ask to speak to the civilian employment office. They should be able to point you in the right direction. You MIGHT have to work in the States for a bit first because you need to get a General Services (GS) job in order to come over here. The good part about it, though, is that once you do, the military will pay for your move and then set you up with a housing allowance and cost of living allowance here. You would most likely need a college degree though.

What kind of jobs are they? A cook?
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: kami333
Try the forums at www.japantoday.com They're pretty active, though they have a decidedly anti-Japanese bend (rather interesting since it's filled with Americans living in Japan(.

That is odd to you? Hell even here in the US, american's try to tell my wife how Japan 'really is' even though they have never been there and she lived there over 30 years

There is one friend no one talks too now, I don't know the whole explaination, but they took language institute classes ($$$$) even though these are for foreigners to learn english, not americans/english speakers....

They would have get togethers for food and fun and of course include her. She got her as$ voted off the island when she started doing food critiques and insulted a few of the other girls....her own versions were very 'chinee-takee-outee' style....she was nuts. She did the whole rigid walk thing and stuff too, talked funny, and was just a freaking pain. She was always crying 'you are discriminating asian people' if something minor went wrong or a mistake was made....I have met others like her...it's one thing to learn Japanese and customs, but another to try and duplicate things that just look unnatural to the Japanese and to the Americans. The best is when they try to pull off some 'cutesy' mannerism and you have 10 or so Japanese teens/20 somethings laugh and say 'AH HA HA HA we don't do that anymore, that is an old way'....so much for their attempt at trendy.

She did have all the ^_^ faces down and a walking billboard for the san rio collection

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