Need help picking mobo

chewie1

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I'm building my first computer, I want an Intel cpu, which mobo should i get? what kind of slots or what not am i looking for? I'm lost.

 

Planktune

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you may want to try board with the 815ep chipset. the 815e comes with onboard sound and I think network card too. MSI or asus are a couple of good brands. There are reviews galore. I am assuming you will get a P3 cpu. VIA makes a good chipset but it can be more problematic for first timers.
Why intel?
 

tnguyen08

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My cousin said I should stick with Intel, because he built his machine with a duron and he had a few problems, and since i'm new at this, he said I should get intel.

 

Planktune

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check out pcsforeveryone.com they have mobos with discriptions and links to reviews on a board to board basis. then check out the cpu prices.. AMD is alot cheaper than intel and way more overclockable.
AMD compatable chipsets and the cpu's have improved alot recently.
Intel is probably the safest bet for ease of setup, but by a ever
narrowing margin.
I just got a Iwill KA266R mobo it uses DDR ram and has RAID.
with the Ali Magic chipset. $165. 2 sticks of 128megs of 1600 ddr ram $113. Athlon 1.2 ghz 266 $275.
I am seting up this board today.
If you are going to buy Ram for your board, you might as well go for a ddr board. DDR boards that support Intel will be out soon. So will cheaper 2100DDR ram.
Go for the athlon, these forums will help you through it. Most people have zero or minor problems.
Intel is not problem free.pcsforeveryone
 

Planktune

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The potential for problems lies in the chiset that the mobo uses not in the processor. If you go with intel cpu go with intel chipset. The VIA chipsets are in both AMD and intel. If you end up going with a VIA chipset for intel (there are good reasons for doing this), then reconsider AMD. I personally don't think much of the VIA KT113a because of the 686b southbridge (or is it northbridge} chip. new VIA has vlink instead and I hear that is better
check this out jc news
 

Pers

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I would reccommend an AMD over Intel...but if you choose to go with an Intel cpu you should get the Asus Cusl2-c
it has the i815ep chipset. You can also get the Asus Cusl2 which has the i815e chipset

Differences between the i815e and i815ep chipsets are:
i815e has integrated audio and video (which is totally useless cause its SUCKS!)

Otherwise i would get the Asus Cusl2-c which is cheaper because it doesnt have integrated video

Actually i wouldnt get either...cause i would get an AMD!

Intel is lame...

ok i'm done =)
 

bozack

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if your a first time builder and just getting into computers at the same time I would have to disagree with the norm and say that I would definately recommend an intel setup over an amd, for ease of construction and durability.

while amd and via chipsets have come a long way in terms of compatibility, via in my opinion is no where near the level of intel, which basically works with everything.

for example I can use my machine, I currently have a mid size atx case with a power supply that I upgraded a few years ago and paid roughly $100 dollars for it, I know it is still good so I don't really want to shell out another $100 to upgrade it.

I am however considering upgrading my system, my choices are either amd or intel, I know the intel setup will work with all of my other hardware, especially that powersupply without a hitch. However I have questions as to whether or not the Amd setup will work correctly with the PS, video card, and sound card as issues have been raised on this board dealing with incompatibilities. Personally I am tempted to go intel just for piece of mind, I don't have time to research all of my components and I don't have the money to replace the ones that might not work with a new setup.

In my opinion you may pay a litle more for an intel setup but your working with a machine that will just go together easier, and if you do make a mistake there might be room for recourse, what I mean by that is I have seen amd systems toast after a few seconds of someone not plugging in the cpu fan and turning the unit on, granted higher end p3 units may do the same, but I have seen intel cpus that have been working for months with inoperational fan units with only minor errors, and when the fan is plugged in the errors disappear and the cpu works as normal and continue to work, which to me is just amazing.

Choose what you want in the end, but research it first, if your new to this take your time and don't change your mind on a whim be confident before you dive into building the system
 

CraigRT

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I agree with bozack and that an Intel system is probably easier for a brand new comer and also will probably give very reliable long service. AMD's need a little more TLC than Intels and some people just aren't up to it.
personally I have 2 Intel's and an AMD
they all run sweet, and in fact the AMD system was just as easy to setup as anything, but I was fortunate I think!

It's your choice, I think either system you could get up and running but the AMD rig MAY give a few probs.

good luck either way!
 

ALstonLoong

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well actual you can get either one .....intel easy to setup, amd do the same thing if you didnt overclock.
 

Planktune

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for that board I posted about earlier,,, no problem started right up with abosuteley no trouble I will replace the matrox card for a geforce and see what happens but so far so good...
This sucker is fast. got a alpha novatech cooler for the chip and a fortran 300watt power supply. If you go this route don't skimp on the power supply or the cooler or the ram.
I can highly recommend this board and ram
 

Neos

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You may be new at this ...but I have seen Intel based boards give just asmany snags as boards for AMD.
The MSI Pro 2/Duron 650 that I built four months ago went together with no probs, and it is faster ...and better priced than any equiv Intel setup.
Good luck.

Neos
 

Basie

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I also agree with Bozack. My first build was a Asus P3V4X & 600EB. Rock
solid. I upgraded to a P3 700E and was able to overclock to 933 stable.
No problems with SBLive and MatroxG400max. My BE6-2 is stable at 980.
Go with an Intel and either CUSL2-C or SAR6. AMD systems run alot hotter
but are probably much better for gaming. I think thats the general consensus
 

Planktune

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yeah intel is more tolerant of environmental conditions. AMD is cheaper, but when you figure in the AMD approved power supply and the cpu cooler, the cost gets alot closer.
my brand new t-bird is running stable at 1.5 ghz. Intel can't do that for the money.
I just replaced my old asus p2b that I got to run a p3 800 fcpga, with the help of a slocket (these things are great) and the 13th bios rev.
Asus does maintain good support as far as bios revisions go. If you get a BX chipset and a p3 on a slocket you will have a very stable system, probably the most stable available, but the bx is maxxed out. you won't be able to upgrade this much. but because it's been around awhile the bugs and compatability issues have had time to be worked out
 
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