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thraashman

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I'd definately be sure to respond to the police, but it's probably best to talk to a lawyer before you do. Also once this is over, you should sue them for defamation of character.
 

brandonb

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Call the police back! If you try to "sweep it under the rug" police are less likely to believe you as they think you may be trying to hide from them (and only guilty people do that)

So call the police back. If they called you and left a number, make sure you do a reverse phone lookup or call the main station line to verify its detective soandso's number... Otherwise those two girls might be having their brothers, new bf's etc calling you pretending to be police (which is a crime!) So don't delete the voicemails in case that is the case.

If it is indeed the police call them and tell them you have not had contact with the girls for over 2 years, and you have no desire to talk to them or egg them or have any sort of incident/contact with them. If they do indeed have tape, let them know calmly that they must be mistaken and it has to be someone else, as you wouldn't take the effort to do such things as they are ancient history to you. But let them know you will participate and send photo or come down to the station to talk about if necessary.

Usually the ones less likely to cooperate or seem nervous, hiding, shifty are the ones who are usually guilty. So the more willing you are to cooperate, the less likely you will get into trouble.
 

JJChicken

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Originally posted by: brandonb
Call the police back! If you try to "sweep it under the rug" police are less likely to believe you as they think you may be trying to hide from them (and only guilty people do that)

So call the police back. If they called you and left a number, make sure you do a reverse phone lookup or call the main station line to verify its detective soandso's number... Otherwise those two girls might be having their brothers, new bf's etc calling you pretending to be police (which is a crime!) So don't delete the voicemails in case that is the case.

If it is indeed the police call them and tell them you have not had contact with the girls for over 2 years, and you have no desire to talk to them or egg them or have any sort of incident/contact with them. If they do indeed have tape, let them know calmly that they must be mistaken and it has to be someone else, as you wouldn't take the effort to do such things as they are ancient history to you. But let them know you will participate and send photo or come down to the station to talk about if necessary.

Usually the ones less likely to cooperate or seem nervous, hiding, shifty are the ones who are usually guilty. So the more willing you are to cooperate, the less likely you will get into trouble.

qft
 

ColdFusion718

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Originally posted by: Allen Iverson
Originally posted by: brandonb
Call the police back! If you try to "sweep it under the rug" police are less likely to believe you as they think you may be trying to hide from them (and only guilty people do that)

So call the police back. If they called you and left a number, make sure you do a reverse phone lookup or call the main station line to verify its detective soandso's number... Otherwise those two girls might be having their brothers, new bf's etc calling you pretending to be police (which is a crime!) So don't delete the voicemails in case that is the case.

If it is indeed the police call them and tell them you have not had contact with the girls for over 2 years, and you have no desire to talk to them or egg them or have any sort of incident/contact with them. If they do indeed have tape, let them know calmly that they must be mistaken and it has to be someone else, as you wouldn't take the effort to do such things as they are ancient history to you. But let them know you will participate and send photo or come down to the station to talk about if necessary.

Usually the ones less likely to cooperate or seem nervous, hiding, shifty are the ones who are usually guilty. So the more willing you are to cooperate, the less likely you will get into trouble.

qft

That's too much information to be giving them. When they want someone to pay for a crime, they will find someone stupid enough to get themselves into such a mess by mouthing off (even if they are innocent).

You are assuming that our legal system is perfect and that all guilty people are eventually found guilty and all innocent people don't go to prison.

OP, if they had any hard evidence against you, you'd be in a jail cell right now.
 

NogginBoink

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: Jeraden
I think its kind of a waste of money to get a lawyer at this point. Just call back the cops and tell them you didn't do it (assuming thats the truth). Unless you screw up and say something incriminating, thats all it should take. Its on them to prove otherwise. Just keep it brief and don't give too many details - people get in trouble because they feel the need to over-explain themselves and say stupid stuff. Just be calm, say you didn't do it and have no idea why they would think you did, and leave it at that.

qft.

That's what I would do. Everyone always recommends a lawyer like they have Robert Shapiro on retainer or something. I'd talk to the cops first and get an idea of whether they're seriously interested in "cracking this case" or if they're just following up because they have to. Assuming the OP didn't do it, then they have no witnesses or no video showing he did it and I doubt the police will pursue it.

OP, do you know when the eggings happened? They're almost certainly going to ask you where you were when they happened, so hopefully you have a good answer to that question.

Thirded.
 
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Lawyer up. Don't delete any voicemails, cut off all contact with them, don't answer their phonecalls, and don't speak to either police department. Send a nicely-worded notarized "STFU" letter, delivered by registered mail.

- M4H
 

kyzen

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I'd say it's too early for a lawyer as well. In the US, burden of proof is on the accuser, not the defender. As was said before, if the evidence was conclusive, you'd have had the cops visit you personally already. Chances are that yes, somebody egged the girls house, and they just got a crappy cell phone video or picture of some guy wearing a hoodie, and their distaste for you is so great that you immediately came to mind.

Do not ignore the police for long though, as that will reflect poorly on you should this progress.

If they left you voice mail they should have said what station they are with - look it up online or in the phonebook, and call the switchboard, and ask to be transferred to the officers phone. If they didn't say what station they are with, call them back, find out, and then do the above steps. That will verify it is in fact a real cop and not some dick friend of the girls. If you have the means to record the call, ask the officers permission to do it, and do so.

When you talk with them, find out what evidence they have, what they're threatening to charge you with, and what day(s) the incidents happened on. If the officers blow it all off after talking to you, file everything away, but forget about it unless you get called again. If it sounds serious, consider a lawyer, and present them with the information you've already collected (that will save you some money since they lawyer won't need to collect as much information while on your dime).

Most importantly, keep ATOT updated on the progress
 

spacejamz

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how much, on average, would the OP be looking at to consulate with laywer?

$100, $200, $500 (I don't have a clue)???

unless he can recoup this money by suing the girls, that is total BS...
 

Pantoot

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Just to rephrase, do not talk to the police at all without first consulting with a lawyer.

And the lawyer's first advice should be, don't talk to the police. If the police think you did it, you aren't going to be able to talk them out of it.

[Edit: wow...old!]
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: DrPizza
update?

how the hell did you find this?!

I was looking for something like this:
Originally posted by: Mwilding
NEVER talk to the police

Which helps show why parts of this country are going to crap.
I'm proud to admit on camera, and on the internet that I will NEVER talk to any police officer under any circumstances.

That was my response for the incredulity that there was a hit & run on camera, but no witnesses even called the police. That's why there was a shooting in which two children under two years old were shot, in front of dozens of people, but there were no witnesses. Not that the rest of the message really matched that quoted statement; but too many people only think of what's in quotes.
 

Wheezer

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: DrPizza
update?

how the hell did you find this?!

I was looking for something like this:
Originally posted by: Mwilding
NEVER talk to the police

Which helps show why parts of this country are going to crap.
I'm proud to admit on camera, and on the internet that I will NEVER talk to any police officer under any circumstances.

That was my response for the incredulity that there was a hit & run on camera, but no witnesses even called the police. That's why there was a shooting in which two children under two years old were shot, in front of dozens of people, but there were no witnesses. Not that the rest of the message really matched that quoted statement; but too many people only think of what's in quotes.

most people don't talk to the police in those circumstances not because they fear the cops, but because they fear repercussions from those involved.

 

biggestmuff

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You need to call back the police ASAP.

What are the ages of the individuals involved? Where did this happen?
 

DrPizza

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edit: In the role of a moderator, I put a little note in the OP so anyone seeing it will realize that I/we are just looking for an update.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: DrPizza

I'm proud to admit on camera, and on the internet that I will NEVER talk to any police officer under any circumstances.

That was my response for the incredulity that there was a hit & run on camera, but no witnesses even called the police. That's why there was a shooting in which two children under two years old were shot, in front of dozens of people, but there were no witnesses. Not that the rest of the message really matched that quoted statement; but too many people only think of what's in quotes.

The title of the lecture is extreme to get attention, not to be taken literally. The lecturer is speaking to a law school class entirely about exercising the 5th Amendment right to not incriminate oneself when one is a suspect, and specifically, how and why as a lawyer you should counsel your client to remain silent.

His target audience is not laymen who witness an event like a hit and run and a cop asks them what they saw. If you take the time to watch the 25+ minute lecture youl'l see why he says this, and why most informed people would agree with him.
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: DrPizza

I'm proud to admit on camera, and on the internet that I will NEVER talk to any police officer under any circumstances.

That was my response for the incredulity that there was a hit & run on camera, but no witnesses even called the police. That's why there was a shooting in which two children under two years old were shot, in front of dozens of people, but there were no witnesses. Not that the rest of the message really matched that quoted statement; but too many people only think of what's in quotes.

The title of the lecture is extreme to get attention, not to be taken literally. The lecturer is speaking to a law school class entirely about exercising the 5th Amendment right to not incriminate oneself when one is a suspect, and specifically, how and why as a lawyer you should counsel your client to remain silent.

His target audience is not laymen who witness an event like a hit and run and a cop asks them what they saw. If you take the time to watch the 25+ minute lecture youl'l see why he says this, and why most informed people would agree with him.

Yes, I watched the lecture in the past, and I understand the point of the lecture. My point wasn't the meaning of the lecture, it's that so many people who post here seem to take the above quoted snip from that lecture much too literally & out of context.
 

biggestmuff

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
edit: In the role of a moderator, I put a little note in the OP so anyone seeing it will realize that I/we are just looking for an update.

Oops. This is the second time this week I've posted in an old thread thinking that it was new.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: DrPizza

I'm proud to admit on camera, and on the internet that I will NEVER talk to any police officer under any circumstances.

That was my response for the incredulity that there was a hit & run on camera, but no witnesses even called the police. That's why there was a shooting in which two children under two years old were shot, in front of dozens of people, but there were no witnesses. Not that the rest of the message really matched that quoted statement; but too many people only think of what's in quotes.

The title of the lecture is extreme to get attention, not to be taken literally. The lecturer is speaking to a law school class entirely about exercising the 5th Amendment right to not incriminate oneself when one is a suspect, and specifically, how and why as a lawyer you should counsel your client to remain silent.

His target audience is not laymen who witness an event like a hit and run and a cop asks them what they saw. If you take the time to watch the 25+ minute lecture youl'l see why he says this, and why most informed people would agree with him.

Yes, I watched the lecture in the past, and I understand the point of the lecture. My point wasn't the meaning of the lecture, it's that so many people who post here seem to take the above quoted snip from that lecture much too literally & out of context.

Gotcha. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Snitchin'
 

OdiN

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Well I find it funny how many people are saying "OMGZ GET A LAWYERS!!!"

Stupid idea.

If you were accused of soemthing like....say assault, rape, murder, etc. - then yes get a lawyer.

For egging someone's house? No reason to get a lawyer unless it actually gets to trial (which I doubt - as long as you didn't do it).
 

IceBergSLiM

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until you are arrested, summoned or subpoenaed you will say nothing to anybody concerning this period. Nothing to anybody. And even if you are arrested, subpoenaed or summoned you will say nothing until you consult your attorney. You will document every contact carefully.
 
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