Need to find a shower/tub that will fit in this space

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Uh, my entire bathroom was $2000 in labor. That's for a hand poured shower floor, all tile, 9' shower, whirlpool tub surround, and floor.

Material was another $250.

I'm sure there's some tile guys itching for $$ out there with it being the middle of January and the construction industry being slow.
 

iGas

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OK OP, I can walk you though this, but I need exact measurements. Is this area already framed? Has drywall already been put up? what exists on all four sides? Where is this stair way? Any other structural support beams? Is this already a partially finished basement? Can the doorway open out? where are the water lines? Is the ceiling already up? You say two flights of stairs, would that be the master, or a central? Whats on the main floor? What have you got for electrical down there? Do you want to do all, or most of this yourself? I take it, there is no rough in for the drain for the tub? Do you have any idea of where your drain lines run in your foundation?
BTW, a 47" steel porcelain enamel tub is not a special order, and is readily available for $235, fiberglass would even be cheaper.
Try shower in that abomination.
 

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Uh, my entire bathroom was $2000 in labor. That's for a hand poured shower floor, all tile, 9' shower, whirlpool tub surround, and floor.

Material was another $250.

I'm sure there's some tile guys itching for $$ out there with it being the middle of January and the construction industry being slow.
How much was the tiles (design/quality), thinset, grout, sealant?
What method is the shower pan, hot mop, membrane, schluter?
What do you have for boards, green boards or cement boards?

Cheap ugly tiles are at least $1 per foot at 50' would be at least $50 (but more likely $250 or more). And, tile trims alone would be at least $50 unless you don't mind the ugly finish by omitting it.
3~4 sheets of green board at $9~10 each come to $40, cement board would be $80~100.
Thin set at least $10 (more like $20~30).
Grout would be $15~30.
Sealant at least $15 (more like $20~30).
Concrete shower pan specialist price would be at least $750 (he she have to be on site at least 2X, commonly 3X), and $750 is consider cheap and they are doing you a favor.
Tar for a mop pan would be $15 or more, pan membrane would cost $40 or more, schluter pan start at around $300~400.
Plumber move the roughin for shower (also add to the cost).
Carpenter need to re-frame square off corners with 2x4 and backing boards, could also add 5/8"~3/4" ply wood to backing (3~4 sheets @ $30+ per sheet).
A few bags of concrete at $5 a bag and it take at least 5 bags for a small shower pan (may also have wire mesh for re-enforce).
Custom glass door usually start at $900, but it is likely more. Or, you can cheap out and get a $10 Walmart special shower rod & curtain.

$3K for a complete custom shower is a damned good deal if you are lucky to find some desperate trade worker that willing to work for free. Or, hire a crew of illegal Mexican.

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Almost forgot the shower diverter kit. You could go with Fisher special staring at $50, or go with decent American Standard/Delta/Moen at $150. Or, get nicer looking & operating ones starting at $250 & up.

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Primary tile was glazed porcelain(daltile brand) 12" from Home Depot for $.79 a sq/ft. I think we used around 90 square feet for the shower.

The floor tile was a ceramic 2x2 on clearance that we paid about $2.50 a square for. We needed about 20 square to cover the floor and some trim around the edges.

There was about $40 in bullnose.

It took 3 sheets of hardiboard that I had extra from another project, otherwise it would have been about $45.

Thinset, mortar, and all setting materials other than grout was included in labor charges.

Don't really care about caulk, plumbing costs, or fixture costs as you'd have to pay for those anyway if you went tile or prefab.

I think grout cost me about $20 a bag, honestly not sure how far a 20 pound bag gets you. Oh and there was a $10 can of sealant for the grout I applied afterwards.

And yes, I have a $10 curtain. I could give two shits about a $1000 glass door that you have to clean every other day.

So yeah, it can be done for pretty cheap if you shop around.

Edit: damn I did forget about the shelves...those were actually the most expensive thing. I think they were about $30 a piece. So add $90 there.

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Gunslinger08

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OK OP, I can walk you though this, but I need exact measurements. Is this area already framed? Has drywall already been put up? what exists on all four sides? Where is this stair way? Any other structural support beams? Is this already a partially finished basement? Can the doorway open out? where are the water lines? Is the ceiling already up? You say two flights of stairs, would that be the master, or a central? Whats on the main floor? What have you got for electrical down there? Do you want to do all, or most of this yourself? I take it, there is no rough in for the drain for the tub? Do you have any idea of where your drain lines run in your foundation?
BTW, a 47" steel porcelain enamel tub is not a special order, and is readily available for $235, fiberglass would even be cheaper.

It's an unfinished basement. I have rough-ins for a 3 piece (sink, toilet, shower) in my foundation. The shower drain is in the bottom right corner of the drawing. The walls can't really move from where they are in the diagram, due to the location of the rough-ins and other pipes. I'm fine with doing the stuff myself, minus the actual plumbing. I have a very inexpensive retired plumber who will handle that. The door can't open outwards because of a bulkhead.
 

Gunslinger08

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Okay, I think we've decided to go with a custom shower. I have about 46" of wall clearance to the center of the toilet right now. I think code is minimum 15" from center of the toilet to any side obstruction and minimum 30" width for a shower. This only leaves me with 1" for a shower lip. I discovered today that you can buy offset toilet flanges that can move the toilet up to 4", which would require me to chip away a little of the floor. I'll either do that or pull the existing insulation off of the wall and frame directly on the concrete, which will save me about 3" (or maybe I'll do both).
 

Gunslinger08

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Or you could talk to a tile guy and have him pour you a concrete bed custom sized to what you want and not work about shoehorning an off the shelf prefab pan & surround.

$1500 in cash would probably get you a shower that looks a hell of a lot nicer than anything acrylic/fiberglass from a box store.

Strangely enough you were dead on. He wants $1500 for a custom tile shower (just labor). I don't think I'm going to shell out that much for it though, so I'm still looking.
 

shortylickens

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Just put in a square shower. That leaves plenty of room on either side for hampers and towel racks. In fact if I were to redo my bathroom thats what I would want. The tub is too damn small for taking a bath anyway, and I'm fucking SHORT!
 

BudAshes

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I think you'd be kind of tight for any tub unless it was one of the walk in sorts they make for the elderly but, why let them have all the fun? Or, you could have a nice shower with a curb and forget the enclosure.

that actually looks pretty sweet.
 
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