Need to inject a few thousands in my setup

KaRLiToS

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Hi guys, last updates on my rig are from 2014 if I remember correctly.

I have old crossover 27Q led p monitors and a Samsung U28D590 and Im looking for another eyefinity/surround setup with freesync or G sync.

I want 3 monitors for surround or eyefinity. I want the best at reasonnable price.

I've been out of the scene for almost 6 months ( lost interest ) and now I want to spend around 5000$ for monitors GPUs and blocks.

Please guide me while I continue my research. I live in Canada by the way.
 
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KaRLiToS

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I still have my 4930k and a single 290x. I have a EVGA Supernova T 1600w waiting for a tri or quad setup. Im not sure there is a real point of changing the CPU, I need to be convinced.
 

bystander36

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Go into a local shop, tell them your plan, and watch their eyes bug out with excitement! (jk, but that would be fun.)
 

KaRLiToS

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With the past two years being a pain with multi monitors, I might aim for an ultra wide monitor and be done with it.

But I need help in chosing, for the last 6 years, its the first time I've been out of the scene, I still follow all the GPU news and play Bf1 but Im clueless as to wich monitor would be the best for me.

Keep in mind that my buget limit should be around 5000$ and I that is for GPUs and monitors. I could always extend to 7000$ if I REALLY need to
 

tential

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Try to get that OLED Dell monitor using a sale/coupon? Do coupons even work on such an item? That would leave you $2000 left though. I mean if you're willing to spend $7k.
 

Mondozei

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I can personally vouch for Asus PG279Q. It may be too expensive for you, and you may not want the so-called "G-sync tax" and/or being locked in to NV GPUs. Nevertheless, that kind of monitor is the best you can get by now. Since it has been revised multiple times, you're far less likely to get a bad initial sample(which happens quite frequently with brand-new models).

Your "thousands" budget will get blown straight away with 3 of them. Nevertheless, I think it's worth it. Since NV owns the higher end, chances are that you'll get the best high-performance from them if you don't want to wait for AMD's delays(6+ months).

I'm not too knowledgable about the freesync offering, so it is possible you can get similar stuff for less. (I personally prefer using ULMB over Gsync, and I'm not sure if AMD has a ULMB-equivalent, you'd have to ask someone with more knowledge on that side).

BTW, it's nice to see you back
 

Elfear

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If you want to spend money NOW, then the Titan XP is hands down the fastest out there and would run an Ultrawide very well. If you want to hold off a couple months, you could see what the 1080Ti or Vega have to offer. Multi-GPU is going the way of the dodo it seems. Both AMD and Nvidia seem to be spending less resources to make it a great experience so I would be leery of doing a triple or quad setup as I seem to remember you doing in the past.

The monitor will largely be determined by the video card(s) you buy. For G-Sync, I would go with an Acer Predator X34 or Asus PG348Q. Both will hit 100Hz and are generally considered the best Nvidia Ultrawides. On the Freesync side, the Predator XR341CK works up to 75Hz and the new Microboard M340CLZ goes to 100Hz. You might also consider the LG 38UC99‑W. It's a 38" Ultrawide at 3840x1600@75Hz. The Freesync range is a bit narrow on that monitor (52-75Hz) but it may be unlockable to a wider range like some other Freesync monitors.

On the CPU side, I would definitely wait a few weeks to see what the AMD Zen has to offer. If nothing else, it may drive down prices on Intel chips if that's what you want. We should get details this month on performance and launch is sometime Q1.
 

moonbogg

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OP, I can tell you the PG348 is amazing. I wouldn't trade it for anything. For multiple GPU's, I wouldn't get more than two. Its got nothing to do with money either. Two is just where its at right now and even having two is often times perfectly useless. Benchmarking is great for it, but gaming sucks with it.
I'd wait for Zen because it will have more IPC than ivy bridge and it will have 8 cores/16 threads. You can then get two Vega cards when they drop if you want and you'll have a full red themed rig.
The PG348 can be bought for only $1,100.00, so you might be able to get 3 of them and have the sickest damn multi setup ever. FPS will suck hard though.
 

VirtualLarry

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Well, I'm not much of a PC gamer anymore, but I recently upgraded my main two rigs from 24" 1080P HDTVs, to 40" 4K UHD HDR TVs. Newegg had them on BF week for $220 for the first one, and like $200 for the second. I think that they're nice for desktop usage, but I have no idea how they are for gaming. (Well, I played some Skyrim vanilla @ 4K60 on my 4GB RX 460 card, and it played alright. But I'm not super-demanding.)

Have you considered a single bigger 4K screen, rather than multi-mon? Ignore this comment if those monitors that you want to use for multi-mon are themselves 4K monitors, I'm not familiar with the specs.
 

richaron

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Well I've been keeping an eye on ultrawides recently (mostly Freesync) and they seem to be stalling at getting past WQHD (3440x1440) @ 100Hz. Personally I think 100Hz would be acceptable, and there are few options even here, and Displayport 1.3 limitations (and I suspect market segmentation) means I'm not expecting 144Hz anytime soon.

Out of the current Freesync choices I would go Samsung CF791 if I wasn't averse to the aesthetics. And whilst the LG 38UC99‑W 38" ultrawide (3840x1600@75Hz) could look tempting, I wouldn't touch anything Freesync without low framerate compensation ("lfc") which generally requires a larger Freesync range.
 

Bacon1

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Well I've been keeping an eye on ultrawides recently (mostly Freesync) and they seem to be stalling at getting past WQHD (3440x1440) @ 100Hz. Personally I think 100Hz would be acceptable, and there are few options even here, and Displayport 1.3 limitations (and I suspect market segmentation) means I'm not expecting 144Hz anytime soon.

Out of the current Freesync choices I would go Samsung CF791 if I wasn't averse to the aesthetics. And whilst the LG 38UC99‑W 38" ultrawide (3840x1600@75Hz) could look tempting, I wouldn't touch anything Freesync without low framerate compensation ("lfc") which generally requires a larger Freesync range.
The Korean 3440x1440 100hz for $700ish is an amazing deal.

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...z-34-3440x1440-100hz-freesync-curved.2492440/
 

ZGR

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Honestly, I'd wait a bit more. The Titan XP is a great card (wish we had the Quadro P6000) but is overkill for most games.

I say overkill because current ultrawide monitors lack the pixels and hz to saturate a Titan XP at optimal settings.

4k 120hz is nearly here and it would pair up perfectly with a Titan XP. Hopefully 5040x2160 21:9 120hz will be here soon as well.

If you want a new display, I would go with the best 4k60 (if you don't need high refresh) or the best ultrawide. If you need to run everything Ultra, go for the Titan XP, but otherwise I'd get a cheap 1070 or 1080.

I would personally build a new Zen rig (or Broadwell-E) when 4k 120hz is available. Perhaps AMD will have an answer to 1070/1080/Titan to lower prices some more.

I don't think it is worth it to splurge $1k on a monitor when PPI is still not sufficient. 4k looks great compared to 1440p and 1080p, but aliasing is still clearly visible.

I'd set aside $5,000-$15,000 for a 10080x4320 120hz 21:9 OLED Display in 8 years or so and coast on the peasant resolutions we have now. See you then!
 

RussianSensation

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I would wait for 1080Ti that should be announced at CES 2017. CPU wise, you are in a tough spot. I would probably keep your current CPU and then do a full system upgrade around Zen/Skylake-X or Cannonlake. If you can get a good resale value on existing CPU/mobo/DDR3 parts, maybe a used 6700K or a new 7700K may make sense. With Zen and Skylake-X, 4C 8T 6700K/7700K seem less exciting in 2017 than it did in 2015-early 2016. If Zen 8C/16T costs $400-450, and can overclock to 4.5Ghz with ~ Broadwell-E IPC, I would take that to keep for 4-5 years over the 6700K/7700K. Let's wait for actual reviews.

Monitor wise, wait for CES too as there could be some new models with HDR and/or 3440x1440 140-160Hz, 1440p 200-240Hz, 4K 100-120Hz. CES runs Jan 5-8th.

Vega should also be previewed on January 5th

http://ve.ga/
 
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vissarix

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Hi guys...

your current setup is pretty good to be honest...why burn money on useless upgrades?
i would rather use that money to travel somewhere...i dont know if your married but if you arent you can have alot of fun in certain places
 

casiofx

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If I'm you, I would get a GTX1070 and wait for the new products that will be announced in CES and do a full combo upgrade of new GPU and monitor. GTX1070 can be sold later anyways.
 

RussianSensation

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PG348Q Ultrawide + 2x Titan XP. Done.

What a terrible advice. We could be weeks from the launch of AIB 1080Ti cards and you recommend the OP get a $2400 setup?

AIB 780Ghz > OG Titan
780Ti > Titan Black
980Ti > Titan X
...

It's only worth buying the Titan series as close as possible to its launch date. Why would you tell someone to waste $ like that just 4 days before CES where both Vega and 1080Ti will likely be revealed? What if NV has a 3840 CC Titan X Black?

If I'm you, I would get a GTX1070 and wait for the new products that will be announced in CES and do a full combo upgrade of new GPU and monitor. GTX1070 can be sold later anyways.

1070 is way too slow for what the OP wants and it has no scaling room beyond 2x1070s [AIB 1080Ti could be nearly as fast as 1070 SLI]. When targeting 3440x1440/4K and esp. in multi-monitor mode, it's better to get 1080Ti and go from there. NV has to announce something powerful at CES to maintain the performance crown in 2017 and get 980Ti owners to upgrade -- consumer large die ~ 471mm2 GP102 should be imminent.

The OP also has a 290X/390X and 1070 is barely 30% faster than that card for 4K gaming when looking at modern games:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1080_Amp_Extreme/29.html

Given the OP has a $5K budget and a 290X, a single 1070 makes absolutely no sense for a 3440x1440/4K gaming rig.
 
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Gikaseixas

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Given the OP history, slow azz GTX 1070 won't cut it and like RS stated Titan XP are terribly overpriced. Best thing is to hold on for 1080TI or even see if AMD releases something interesting around the same time.

I would buy the monitor last as that nowadays depends on which brand you pick for GPU's
 

beginner99

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As has been said SLi/xfire are more or less dead. You will need nerves of steel to deal with it and most games probably will only work half a year after release, if at all. So up to you if you want to deal with it. Also multi-gpu honestly only makes sense with the best GPU which nowadays are even more overpriced than they used to be. I advise against it but maybe you are a millionaire and don't care about overspending on GPUs.

This means maximum I would advise is 3xtimes 1080p gaming monitors with free-sync. even that will be hard to push in modern games without reducing settings. Personally I would either target single 1080p 144 hz or go with a 2k or 4k screen. For FPS gaming eg BF1 1080p 144 hz is superior for competitiveness.
 
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