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TuxDave

Lifer
Oct 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Didnt Moore himself say that his "law" was coming to an end?

Moore has always posited his law as operating within the confines of (a) immutable boundaries of physics...atoms can't be made smaller, and (b) the practical restrictions of economics...do you need a 1THz 1,204 core desktop processor produced on 2nm tech node in a fab that cost $100B to build and more importanly will you buy such a chip for $1200?

The only debate surrounding Moore's law is whether economics or physics will ultimately get to be first in stepping in and stopping the train. Moore has never publicly talked about his law (to my knowledge) without touching on this aspect of it.

The last speech I went by Moore was at ISSCC maybe 5 or so years ago and the bottom line was that all exponential based predictions will always end but we can try our best to keep pushing out when it ends.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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Jan 15, 2000
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Wow the benchmarks are certainly impressive, Intel is really on the ball as of late. Since their P4 fiasco they have been near flawless in their execution.

I've always loved AMD, but unless they can put out something competitive when this comes out I will be going with Intel again.
 

bryanW1995

Lifer
May 22, 2007
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Originally posted by: Sureshot324
AMD better have something that at least matches the Core 2 by then. Otherwise they'll be ridiculously behind.

amd had better match core 2 by when? by the time that intel goes to 22nm? um, by then via will be ahead of core2
 

GuitarDaddy

Lifer
Nov 9, 2004
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I had hoped that someday AMD would regain the performance crown and continue the cycle of competing for the top spot. But this pretty much buries them and relegates them to a role as second class budget chipmaker from here on.

AMD simply doesn't have the resources to catch up at this point, much less ever leapfrog Intel again
 

Idontcare

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
AMD simply doesn't have the resources to catch up at this point, much less ever leapfrog Intel again

AMD has the same chance of surpassing Intel now as they did in the K7 vs P4 days...i.e. it simply requires an Intel to shoot itself in the foot and suddenly the also-ran becomes the leagues superstar.

The chances of Intel shooting itself in the foot again is merely a CEO away, as Craig Barret and Hector Ruiz demonstrated handidly.

Intel can't help but be forced to become fat and lazy once again, its the fickle nature of their voting and litigious shareholders.

It won't be long before existing management will be ran-out because they keep wasting shareholder profits on senselessly investing into this needless tick-tock strategy. We want next quarters gross margins to be 65% regardless what it does to the prospects of next year's gross margins. Just wait, never underestimate the shortmindedness of the shareholders.

(note I am NOT an Intel or AMD shareholder, in fact I own zero tech stocks including mutual funds and index funds)
 

bryanW1995

Lifer
May 22, 2007
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maybe carl icahn will start a run on intel shares and demand that hector ruiz be appointed chairman/ceo...
 
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