Neighbor's dogs bark off and on all day... weekdays

Muse

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Yes, I suppose he goes to work and leaves his two dogs outside. In the evening, his dogs shut up, so I guess he takes them inside when he gets home. They are fairly big dogs, don't know the breeds. They look to be maybe 80 pounders.

I suppose they are lonely. I think they bark every time someone walks by the front of his house, although there's a tight/high wooden fence in front. His left-side fence is my back fence (he's on the cross street, I've got the 2nd lot on my street from the corner.

I own my house, I figure he owns his. We've been here quite a few years. I met him when I needed all my neighbors to sign off on a minor change in my house.

A few years ago he used to not clean up the dog doo in the back of his house and it stunk up my yard really bad when the weather was warm and it wasn't windy and I talked to him about it. He didn't do anything at first but after a 2nd talk he started cleaning it up. A glance into his yard a couple weeks ago shows some dog doo but not the pig sty look it used to have and I haven't been overwhelmed by the smell for a few years.

His dogs' barking, however, is something that's become intolerable during the week (I don't go off to work). I don't know how the other neighbors can stand it. There's an apartment building on the corner, probably those people are reticent to complain about a home owner, they are in a low rent affair.

It's hard for me not to fantasize about murdering the dogs but I'm not about to do anything like that. I could have a talk with him, don't know if it would do much good. I did say something toward him a couple weeks ago but if he heard me, he pretended not to. Yes, I could knock on his door and have a talk. I think there are noise regulations here (Berkeley, CA), I looked it up one time online. I don't know what kind of reaction I'd get from the local authorities. The regulation has some vague information about quality of life, IIRC.

Now, I just did some internet searching (before composing this) and a search of Amazon for dog control devices and there's a device for ~$30 that emits a high pitched sound when it detects a bark. The reviews are quite mixed. Some people have bought one or two of these and mounted them in a tree. There are also dog whistles for sale at Amazon (cheaper, generally $10-15). I'm thinking these devices could really help here, don't know, and a lot of the time the dogs are going to be on the other side of the neighbor's house, so the dogs will be shielded, maybe, from the effects of a whistle. Generally, 1/2 the time there's barking during the day on weekdays (not sure about weekends), today seems like 3/4 of the time. I like music but having to use music to drown out dogs' barking isn't something I want to do all the time. I don't want to constantly listen to music.

OK, I know some of you people have real world experience with this and hope you can give me some good info... thanks!
 
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Do you have an HOA? If you do, can they maybe step in and help you out? There has got to be some kind of noise policy. Even the poop in the yard might be violating some rules.
 

olds

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Talking to my neighbors did nothing. I tried one of those high pitched sound thingies. It looked like a bird house. Didn't work.
But I found something that did. Bear spray.
He's bark, I'd hit him with the spray and he'd retreat to the far side of the yard and shut up. After a while, as soon as he heard my door open, he'd head over to the corner and shut up.
 

Gooberlx2

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http://codepublishing.com/ca/berkeley/html/berkeley13/Berkeley1340/Berkeley1340070.html#13.40.070

5. Animals. Keeping or maintaining, or permitting to be kept or maintained, upon any premises owned, occupied, or controlled by any person of any animal or animals, which by any frequent or long continued noise shall cause annoyance or discomfort to two or more reasonable persons of normal sensitiveness who reside in separate residences (including apartments and condominiums). However, a NCO or his or her agent may proceed on the basis of a complaint of only one person, if circumstances are determined to exist whereby a noise disturbance caused by an animal affects only one individual. Any noise which is audible continuously for 10 minutes or intermittently for 30 minutes shall be prima facie evidence of such annoyance or discomfort. Factors which can be used to evaluate excessive animal noise include but are not limited to (a) pitch, (b) pattern, and (c) frequency of occurrence. This subsection may be enforced by an Animal Control Officer.


Poor dogs are probably bored and under exercised. First try to let him know how much they bark. If he's not home when they're doing it, he may honestly not know. Otherwise call Animal Control and have them issue a citation, or at least a warning. It would help if you had a day or two's worth of recordings and can mark the timestamps and duration of the barking. Being a dog owner myself, I tend to give a lot of latitude to others and their dogs. Dogs barking at passersby happens, but that's usually infrequent and short lived. If it is as constant as you say, that would indeed be irritating as shit and needs to be addressed.
 
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pooptastic

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Please try other things rather than resorting to bear spray. Poor doggies, they're just dummies.
 

lxskllr

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Take the dogs to the spca, replace with two cats. They probably won't notice.
 

GagHalfrunt

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It would help if you had a day or two's worth of recordings and can mark the timestamps and duration of the barking.

That. Document the problem, then talk to him about it using the recordings. If he doesn't do anything to correct it then go to animal control. But give him a chance first.
 

Insomniator

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I don't know man... normally I'm all for do whatever you want on your property as a home owner, but barking dogs would make me want to murder or bear spray them even if that is terrible.

My friend's neighbor had to yapping pieces of **** that wouldn't shut up all day when he had people in the back yard. Luckily they moved out.

Hopefully some HOA deal can get rid of your problem.
 

JEDIYoda

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That. Document the problem, then talk to him about it using the recordings. If he doesn't do anything to correct it then go to animal control. But give him a chance first.
Nothing will happen! They will only act if the dogs bark late at night or in the early morning!!
 

JEDIYoda

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Talking to my neighbors did nothing. I tried one of those high pitched sound thingies. It looked like a bird house. Didn't work.
But I found something that did. Bear spray.
He's bark, I'd hit him with the spray and he'd retreat to the far side of the yard and shut up. After a while, as soon as he heard my door open, he'd head over to the corner and shut up.
When Olds takes action into his own hands he does it right!!!
 

Carson Dyle

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2nd the bear spray idea. Probably want to make damned sure the owner isn't home and there are no witnesses when you hit them with it.
 

Ackmed

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Talking to my neighbors did nothing. I tried one of those high pitched sound thingies. It looked like a bird house. Didn't work.
But I found something that did. Bear spray.
He's bark, I'd hit him with the spray and he'd retreat to the far side of the yard and shut up. After a while, as soon as he heard my door open, he'd head over to the corner and shut up.

I like it.

Side note, I used Bear spray once. Then cleaned my contacts hours later. The next morning was worse than any hangover I ever had. I could not open my eye to take my contact out. It sealed itself shut, was terrible.
 

olds

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I like it.

Side note, I used Bear spray once. Then cleaned my contacts hours later. The next morning was worse than any hangover I ever had. I could not open my eye to take my contact out. It sealed itself shut, was terrible.
I doubt it ever irritated him too much. I'd just give it a short blast in his direction and I am sure he breathed it in but I doubt it got in his eyes. He defiantly got the idea.
 

Ackmed

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I wasn't saying it did, just replaying a terrible occurrence in my life by being young and dumb. I have zero problems with what you did, better than taking it lying down like so many people would do.
 

edro

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No advice other than I can feel your pain.
I am so lucky my current neighbor's dogs are like 14 and rarely bark.

It would suck hearing that all the time and would make you a prisoner in your own house.
You wouldn't want to do anything outside.
 

NesuD

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Offer to help him train them not to bark all day. Suggest he put training collars on them and leave the remotes with you. Give them a pop every time they bark during the day. You will only have to actually shock them a couple of times. They will learn to stop as soon as they hear the warning tone.
 

Aikouka

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When I moved in to my house a few months ago, one of my neighbors had a small dog that would sometimes bark when I was in a backyard. It does annoy me a bit because I'm in my yard, but it wasn't that often. The previous owner did tell me that the other neighbor was recently moved to an old folk's home by her children, and I've had some people stay in the home. (I assume that's one of her kids.) Well, those people have three dogs, and they love to leave them in their backyard. These dogs bark at anything. I've been walking in my living room and bark-bark-bark-bark! The thing is that they don't shut up, and since I live in the south, everyone and their mother has a dog. So, once one worthless noise-machine starts barking, the rest of them join in the canine chorus.

We do have noise ordinances and also laws about the number of dogs -- a limit of 2. They seem to not be there now, which is nice, but there are some dogs that I still hear at night and during the day.
 

Newell Steamer

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I would implore you to speak to the dog owner.

Because if it was your dog who was acting like this and they used something harmful on him/her, you would be losing your shit and asking us what kind of dynamite would ensure his home gets leveled with his family in it.

Fucked Up Things: They Are OK When They Don't Happen To ATOTers.
 

stormkroe

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Record it during the day, blast it over a PA back at him at night (or a nickelback cd). Or the bear spray thing... my body says yes but my heart is saying no.
 

lk2500

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Assuming Animal Control works the same way there as here....

Call Animal Control and they may give him an anonymous warning. However, they will not issue a citation with monetary penalty without you officially filling out a form. And then they'll give all that information to your neighbor including who did the complaining.

So, you're probably better off starting off by just talking to the guy again. Just ask him if he has any clue how much his dog barks during the day and explain how it's messing with your quality of life. Tell him you really don't want to file a complaint but you will if things don't change. Maybe actually print out the city ordinance or complaint form and show it to him. I think in my city it's like if the dog barks more than 10 minutes in a 30 minute period or something like that.

You could suggest a pet safe spray collar: http://www.amazon.com/PetSafe-Gentle-Spray-Anti-Bark-Collar/dp/B0002D31QU/

Heck, offer to buy one for your neighbor (for his dog ).

I feel your pain, I have a few dogs in my neighborhood I'd like to strangle myself. Luckily myself and a neighbor (who's wife needed to sleep during the day due to chemo treatments) complained to Animal Control and things improved a bit for the worst offender - although he still barks non-stop from time to time.

Good luck....
 
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Muse

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Do you have an HOA? If you do, can they maybe step in and help you out? There has got to be some kind of noise policy. Even the poop in the yard might be violating some rules.
I'm in a residential community. I've never heard of an HOA in Berkeley, CA. There is a noise ordinance with vague language as I said in the OP.

Last night I realized that I still hear barking at night, it's just not as frequent. Maybe because not so many people are walking by the fence in front of the guy's house.

A couple of weeks ago I was tarping my garage and from on top I could see two largish dogs, one black the other brown. But I never hear a litany of barking as if two dogs are barking. Maybe it's just one of those dogs that barks, the other keeps quiet. Seems weird, but don't know how else to explain it.

The barking is not like [BARK] [3 seconds] [BARK] [3 seconds] [BARK] [3 seconds] [BARK] [3 seconds]

There are really long roars that last up to ~10 seconds. It's like [ROARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR] [1/2 second] [ROARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR] [1/2 second] [ROARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR] [1/2 second] [ROARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR] [1/2 second]

Last night I turned in after 9:30PM and the dog was barking a fair amount, pretty loudly. I needed these to get to sleep:

I would implore you to speak to the dog owner.

Because if it was your dog who was acting like this and they used something harmful on him/her, you would be losing your shit and asking us what kind of dynamite would ensure his home gets leveled with his family in it.

Fucked Up Things: They Are OK When They Don't Happen To ATOTers.
Yes, I've been thinking that the next action on my part (I've done nothing so far other than post this thread) is to have a talk with the owner. However, I want to be prepared, not just walk up and knock on his door and go "you know, your dog(s) are driving me crazy, can you do something about that?" I already know he's not the most accommodating guy in the world. It took some cajoling to get him to clean up the more-than-a-hundred dog turds that littered his back yard and stunk things up big time a few years ago. However, he didn't just blow me off, he eventually started cleaning up, at least occasionally.
 
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