netbsd on m68k

[YNos]

is there a way to install netbsd on my old mac<gonna be a router> w/o having to put friggin MacOS on it?
<the HD isnt big enuf for both of them>
any other help from ppl who have dont this would be apprieciated. <i know, my Lc ii wont be much of a powerhouse for computeing, but it just needs to route between modem and ethernet>
thnx,
Y Nos

 

[YNos]

anyone?

 

[Workin']

Unfortunately you have to have a minimal MacOS install to boot the machine and run the bootloader. No way around that, AFAIK. But you can get away with a <10MB partition for a minimal install of MacOS 7.5, how big is your drive?

 

[n0cmonkey]

One of the great things about Mac OS is that it is increadibly small when you break it down.

 

[YNos]

its just a little 100 meg drive. wonder how small the macos install will be?will see and report back.

 

[YNos]

well, i got the install down to about seven and a half meg, have the box up and running pretty well. am thinking about seeing how well a 16 mhz proc can handle a gui..... is tehre a way i can stick the booter in the extensions sir and make it start up as the box comes up....or make it start w/o user intervention?<i tried just sticking teh booter in the extensions dir, and nothing happened on boot....is there something ihave to do to it first? >
thnx,
Craig

 

[CTho9305]

Does that machine boot from CD? If it does, could you have it load netBSD from that? (I don't know much about Macs in general and even less about old ones )

 

[YNos]

AFAIK it doesent, i know very little about macs...that was the idea here, take something i know<bsd> and put it on a mac<somehting i dont know> and maybe i'd learn somethign.....i have learned very little so far, netbsd is netbsd. OH!!! and you dont want to try to run x on a 16 MHZ machine.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: YNos
OH!!! and you dont want to try to run x on a 16 MHZ machine.

why not? twm and xfm make a great desktop

 

[topaz22]

i installed linux on a power mac clone about 6 years ago, i seem to remember that there is some sort of key combination that you hold down while it is booting.. i think that if you hold down 'c' while it is booting, it will boot off of the cd.. i vaguely remember some ofther keystokes that you hold down to get into the firmware, but its been so long...

 

[YNos]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: YNos
OH!!! and you dont want to try to run x on a 16 MHZ machine.

why not? twm and xfm make a great desktop

even the mouse movement is chunky in twm!!!i didnt start anything but the default xterm........... could just imagine trying to run netscape or mozilla on there............hmm i just started mozilla, time to take a nap

 

[YNos]

i havent come accross anything that would make it kick right into bsd from the extensions folder, anyone know of one?

 

[Workin']

Originally posted by: YNos
i havent come accross anything that would make it kick right into bsd from the extensions folder, anyone know of one?

I run PPC Debian linux on a first-generation PowerMac and the Apple MkLinux bootloader lets you choose whether to boot Linux or MacOS by default. My machine loads linux automatically. Of course you do see the the MacOS load first, then the linux kernel. But I don't have to press a key or anything.

 

[YNos]

will have to tweak with that, wont be able to for about another 3 weeks, am down house-sitting for teh grandparents...didnt bring the lc down with me, oh well it will have to wait.....