Netflix: Jessica Jones

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AznAnarchy99

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I though it was great. As creepy as the Purple Man was, Vincent D'Onofrio really made Daredevil stand out.
 

Bubbleawsome

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Man, him as kingpin in Daredevil was outstanding. He also had the same "crazy but quiet" mentality about him. His acting was stunning how clearly he separated his criminal personality and his home/dating version of himself. I was also sad about Wesley because he was almost kind for a villain. Also he has my name and how attached Kingpin was. It was strange how they could make you feel sorry for horrible people.

The Purple Man is similar, it seems he has quite a bit of humanity in him too, for a bad guy at least. How willing he was to cheat those guys out of their money just so he could pay a guy for his house instead of taking over.
 

Bubbleawsome

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DD is quite a bit better IMO, and is also referenced a small bit in JJ, but honestly you could watch them in any order. I think DD also technically happens before JJ.

Personally I'd watch JJ, and if I couldn't handle it (unlikely) or finished it I'd move on to DD. Also, you have to give DD a bit of a chance. IIRC it's kinda meh until episode 2 or 3.
 

Phoenix86

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Disclaimer: I'm not a comic book nerd.

Should I watch DD or JJ first?

DD then JJ, they are linked, eventually.

DD is better overall. I just finished it and would upgrade my 8/10 to 9/10, but with the warning that some people will simply not like it for a few reasons. DD is much more publicly consumable IMO.
 

Phoenix86

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Watched it all. It was OK. Nothing really spectacular about this. Luke Cage was stronger than her.

This is not something I'd brag about around the water cooler.

Maybe? They seemed to be an even match for strength.
 

zinfamous

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If you want to watch the better series first watch DD.

That's not to say JJ is bad. It's just not as good.

Hmm. I'm liking JJ tons more, 5 episodes in, than I liked DD throughout. While not disappointed, I hoped DD was better than it was. it was still OK, but, eh.

I knew nothing about JJ going in, and I think it's great so far.

DD had some great moments, but I had major issues with some of the casting, pacing and dialogue. While D'Onofrio was good, the Kingpin role was a bit haphazard the way it was written.
 

blankslate

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I'm a few episodes in... it's pretty damn good. So people who are saying DD is much better.. you've convinced me to watch that one next.

As for supporting characters getting changed in major ways. If it doesn't make the show shit who gives a fuck?

I swear, Alien was going to have a male protagonist. The character was changed to female during development and we got an iconic Sci-Fi character... it's like a trendy in thing to complain about things like this in recent years... look at some of the complaints about Mad Max recently yet these same bitches probably love Aliens, Terminator, T2, and Avatar... probably because they came out before it was cool to hate entertainment for being "diverse" or "caving to P.C." or some other B.S.

but yeah back on topic Jessica Jones is pretty damn good and introducing Luke Cage in the first few episodes to get Marvel fans excited for his upcoming series was a good move as well.



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Phoenix86

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Hmm. I'm liking JJ tons more, 5 episodes in, than I liked DD throughout. While not disappointed, I hoped DD was better than it was. it was still OK, but, eh.

I knew nothing about JJ going in, and I think it's great so far.

DD had some great moments, but I had major issues with some of the casting, pacing and dialogue. While D'Onofrio was good, the Kingpin role was a bit haphazard the way it was written.

I'll wait a week or two before discussing details, hope others do the same, the sudden release format makes it difficult to talk about immediately after it's out.

If you're liking it more at ep. 5, you will probably like it way more by the end. It just keeps building. They also setup season 2 and the DD connection by the end pretty good.
 

Phoenix86

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I'm a few episodes in... it's pretty damn good. So people who are saying DD is much better.. you've convinced me to watch that one next.

It won't make a massive difference, but I'd recommend you stop now and switch the DD if you plan on watching both. They are chronological. Again, nothing huge, but towards the end of the season it will make more sense.
 

blankslate

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It won't make a massive difference, but I'd recommend you stop now and switch the DD if you plan on watching both. They are chronological. Again, nothing huge, but towards the end of the season it will make more sense.

I've started book series out of order and didn't mind. oddly enough I'm not particularly OCD about getting my entertainment in chronological order as I am about other things


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Kaido

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Disclaimer: I'm not a comic book nerd.

Should I watch DD or JJ first?

So far DD has been a lot better. That is, if you like action. Lots of fun fight scenes. JJ is definitely more story-oriented, and also hasn't captured me like DD did.
 

Bubbleawsome

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I think JJ is much stronger than the other guy. She can lift an Aston Martin, I doubt he could so easily. Also, he can't do her jump/fly thing. She just wasn't trying with him earlier.
 

Kaido

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I think JJ is much stronger than the other guy. She can lift an Aston Martin, I doubt he could so easily. Also, he can't do her jump/fly thing. She just wasn't trying with him earlier.

And shoot lasers out of her eyes :sneaky:
 

Kaido

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Thanks guys, DD then JJ.

If you liked the new Batman movies (Dark Knight etc.), DD is in the same vein - dark, gritty, revenge-oriented. It takes a bit to build up, but gets really good, and has a whole lot of potential for season 2.
 

zinfamous

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So far DD has been a lot better. That is, if you like action. Lots of fun fight scenes. JJ is definitely more story-oriented, and also hasn't captured me like DD did.

FWIW, I think the overall production and plotting is a bit better in JJ. The fighting choreography and the sequences in DD were done really well, though. Probably what impressed me most about the series. Say Michael Bay or hell, even Nolan, had shot those--it would have been a blurry mess of tight shots and too much senseless spinning. One sequence in particular seemed a direct homage to OldBoy, which is always welcome. (episode 3 or 4, I think)

But to me that was the best of DD, which doesn't really make the series better. Mostly a personal thing, I guess, as fight scenes really don't do anything for me, anyway, whether or not they are well done. But it is DD and that is necessary for any DD content so it's arguably the most important aspect to get that show right. I thought everything else just seemed, a bit "corny" or put-on. And other than Rosario Dawson and D'Onofrio, I didn't really care that much for any of the other performances. The guy playing Murdoch was pretty good--definitely a bit different than what I recall of him in the comics, but I feel that role could have been cast better. I'll wait for the second season, I guess, which looks to ramp up a bit.

the middle episodes of DD dragged on waaaaaaay too long. Too much of the same brooding over and over; from Fisk to Murdoch. It was like 3 or 4 of those episodes were the same and I never could bring myself to watch more than 1 at a time.
 
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NuclearNed

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I watched the 1st episode last night. First, I expect a little action in a comic book show, and there wasn't much. Second, the wife accused me of watching a chick show. I'm not sure I'm allowed to like it now.
 

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Can't approach JJ as a traditional "Superhero" show in the same sense as Avengers or X-Men. It's just not the direction they wanted to go. She's not a traditional superhero

This is much more of a Noir style direction that appeals to a much different audience. It's a slower burn and emphasizes an emotional threat over a physical one. That certainly is something more interesting to women. Doesn't help that a majority of the main characters outside of the bartender are women either

I dig it though. I found Avengers 2 a bore and just sort of burned out on the traditional Marvel formula. This is a nice change of pace and a bit more of a cerebral experience.
 

MadScientist

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Can't approach JJ as a traditional "Superhero" show in the same sense as Avengers or X-Men. It's just not the direction they wanted to go. She's not a traditional superhero

This is much more of a Noir style direction that appeals to a much different audience. It's a slower burn and emphasizes an emotional threat over a physical one.

On episode 4 and you nailed it.
 
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