Netflix: Jessica Jones

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MongGrel

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I still really wasn't that impressed with the first season.

But that is just my opinion, of course.
 

Skel

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With Daredevil getting the Punisher next season (main villain?), I'm sure they will throw another super into the mix. I just hope it isn't someone as lame as Namor.

It'll be much worse than him.. And Namor's way too complicated for a 'street level' hero show like JJ. You'd need to deal with Atlantis and that baggage. It'll be someone like Nuke where the comic guys will get it and cry over how they changed him, but non-comic watchers will wonder who he is and what's his point.
 

smackababy

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It'll be much worse than him.. And Namor's way too complicated for a 'street level' hero show like JJ. You'd need to deal with Atlantis and that baggage. It'll be someone like Nuke where the comic guys will get it and cry over how they changed him, but non-comic watchers will wonder who he is and what's his point.


I was just merely referencing Kilgraves past in the comics lol. He was "killed" by Namor originally.

I'm sure it will be some low level, needs few effects, guy nobody cares about.
 

Phoenix86

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It'll be much worse than him.. And Namor's way too complicated for a 'street level' hero show like JJ. You'd need to deal with Atlantis and that baggage. It'll be someone like Nuke where the comic guys will get it and cry over how they changed him, but non-comic watchers will wonder who he is and what's his point.

It's almost certainly going to be Nuke, and he's already been introduced. He's the cop, Will something. Red, white and blue pills. Doctor Koslov and his "program".
 

Skel

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It's almost certainly going to be Nuke, and he's already been introduced. He's the cop, Will something. Red, white and blue pills. Doctor Koslov and his "program".

I've little doubt you'll have him.. but they'll also throw in someone else. Unless they go the other direction and spend more time with the supporting characters' drama. I'm sure they could/will milk the brother's death for even more screen time for his sister.
 

Phoenix86

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I've little doubt you'll have him.. but they'll also throw in someone else. Unless they go the other direction and spend more time with the supporting characters' drama. I'm sure they could/will milk the brother's death for even more screen time for his sister.

Yeah I half expect someone else, not sure they could carry that thread for a whole season. Also the crossovers.
 

smackababy

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It's almost certainly going to be Nuke, and he's already been introduced. He's the cop, Will something. Red, white and blue pills. Doctor Koslov and his "program".


Idk if they will go that route or Nuke was just a cameo.

I actually wager it is going to be her origin story explained. I'm sure Nuke will be here, with other "super soldiers", but it will be her against the evil weapon program that made her.
 
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Phoenix86

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Idk if they will go that route or Nuke was just a cameo.

I actually wager it is going to be her origin story explained. I'm sure Nuke will be here, with other "super soldiers", but it will be her against the evil weapon program that made her.

One in the same. IGH was uncovered as part of Jessica's past, and that's the same program Dr. Koslov is part of that produced the red/white/blue pills Will is using.
 

smackababy

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One in the same. IGH was uncovered as part of Jessica's past, and that's the same program Dr. Koslov is part of that produced the red/white/blue pills Will is using.

Yeah, I just feel Nuke won't be a huge part of it. He will be a minor character at best and the other "super soldiers" will be the ones Jessica continues engaging in. I'm sure at the end of the season, her super baby with Luke will be announced.
 

Bubbleawsome

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I've little doubt you'll have him.. but they'll also throw in someone else. Unless they go the other direction and spend more time with the supporting characters' drama. I'm sure they could/will milk the brother's death for even more screen time for his sister.

Huh? Who's brother died? What?
 

Skel

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Oh right. While I liked the idea they had there I think it fell a little flat.

One thing about the show that bothered me was the drifting story telling in it. The fact that we were still dealing with the twins in next to last EP bothered me. That story should have been completed, instead we still had two characters who didn't really factor into the final showdown still getting screen time. Some people liked it, but for me it was just more filler with a character that outlived her usefulness.. or any interest I may have had for her.
 

smackababy

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One thing about the show that bothered me was the drifting story telling in it. The fact that we were still dealing with the twins in next to last EP bothered me. That story should have been completed, instead we still had two characters who didn't really factor into the final showdown still getting screen time. Some people liked it, but for me it was just more filler with a character that outlived her usefulness.. or any interest I may have had for her.

It felt like they were stretching a lot for story content and making some "realistic" relationships that don't really go away filled in awhile.
 

Kaido

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Finally finished the series tonight. The first nine were tough to plow through due to the slow pacing (it's taken me months to fully watch it all, tbh), but then it really picked up when Kilgrave started being in every episode. I did have one part that dropped my jaw, when Simpson capped Clemmons, absolutely was NOT expecting that! I liked Daredevil a lot more overall due to the pacing & more importantly the action, but this show had some merits to it as well.

The show arc is kind of an odd duck. It went on a lot of tangents, and also left a lot of stuff unanswered...but didn't leave anything critical unanswered, so it's okay that we don't know a lot of things - like about IGS, Clemmons, where Cage went, etc. I did start thinking "why don't they just wear earplugs" every single episode, which was an obvious loophole that they finally admitted to in the last episode. The ending was good, but fairly anti-climatic for all of the building-up they did.

I'm still trying to figure out the logic of how he controlled people at the end. Obviously it's a combination of distance (virus) & voice (activation). From what I understood, he could call Luke on the phone to control him as long as he was within a few hundred feet, or something. The twist of him knowing that he couldn't control Jessica & then buying her house as a ruse to lure her in was actually pretty awesome. I think had they done the show in a different format, perhaps tightened it up by doing fewer episodes, they could have focused on Kilgrave's creepiness along the lines of Sleeping with the Enemy & Misery.

Going back to being an odd duck...I feel like they should do a supercut where they chop out the other side stories & just do a half-season-long focus on Jones, like the Tolkien or Phantom Edits. I enjoyed the side stuff, but I also felt like a lot of episodes were really drawn out, like they were really pushing the whole Nancy Drew thing with the music & stuff and not really going anywhere. With the first ten or whatever episodes being slow & then getting awesome, it felt like a reverse version of Lost, which started out awesome for a couple seasons & then got really slow and dumb. Maybe Jones could have even been shrunk into, well, not a movie but a mini-series. Enough to give you backstory, but also stay focused on moving the story along. I don't feel like the long & semi-boring episodes were really productive for giving lots of character background because they just felt slow until the last few.

I'm trying to figure out if Luke warrants his own show. I think David Tennant was definitely the highlight of the series. I originally saw him in Harry Potter as a bad guy, then in Doctor Who, so it was fun to see him go back to his bad-guy roots because both nice & evil work for him as an actor. I liked Krysten Ritter better in Breaking Bad than in this, but she did pull off the character well. I liked that the characters were relatable; as one reviewer pointed out, you know people like her, but not like Captain America, so it was more of a realistic show in that sense.

I hope heaven has express shipping.
 
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