NETGEAR GS108 8 Port Gigabit Switch

[TheBear]

Nice 8 port gigabit switch at Newegg.com

Link

 

[Thoreau]

Or for not much more, go managed =)

 

[middlehead]

Originally posted by: Thoreau
Or for not much more, go managed =)

Any personal experience with that one? I'm going to want a gigabit switch soon and I'd prefer managed, but if the software blows I'd rather know ahead of time

 

[Fallen Kell]

I would stay away from anything that doesn't support jumbo frames. Anything without it is just marketing itself as GigE, but really doesn't have full support. Not sure if either of the above items support it since there is little to no documentation on it.

There was a good deal a little while back on the high end Linksys SRW2016/24 (16 or 24 port switches), but don't think it is running anymore (involved a $50-$75 rebate). This isn't a switch to sit out in a home on a desk, but in a closet somewhere.

Anyway, I didn't mean to crap to much on a deal, just look to make sure it supports jumbo frames.

 

[imported_cosmotic]

Plus when you get a dell switch, you get their amazing enterprise support. They pick up imediatly, they know what they are talking about... and they speak english well.

 

[ynotravid]

I ran accross this article awhile back while looking for an 8prt Gb switch: tomsnetworking.com

It mensions that Netgear added support for Jumbo Frames upto 9k and that future models will have the same model number. So you'll have to look at the box to see if it is one of the upgraded models.

Keep in mind though that the article was written on 08_05_2005 so presumably, unless it's been sitting on a shelf for 6 months, it should be an upgraded model.

I just ordered one yesterday from NewEgg so I'll let you know.

I'm setting it up on an isolated network, dedicated to a surveillance system, so I'm really hoping the Jumbo Frame support will be there.
<fingers crossed>

 

[ynotravid]

tomsnetworking.com

It mensions that Netgear added support for Jumbo Frames upto 9k and that future models will have the same model number. So you'll have to look at the box to see if it is one of the upgraded models.

Keep in mind though that the article was written on 08_05_2005 so presumably, unless it's been sitting on a shelf for 6 months, it should be an upgraded model.

I just ordered one yesterday from NewEgg so I'll let you know.

I'm setting it up on an isolated network, dedicated to a surveillance system, so I'm really hoping the Jumbo Frame support will be there.
<fingers crossed>

 

[psihog]

http://tinyurl.com/a73da
someone posted this link on newegg's user review. some info on the serial #.

 

[jalaram]

Originally posted by: psihog
http://tinyurl.com/a73da
someone posted this link on newegg's user review. some info on the serial #.

Quoted from above link:

Unmanaged Switches
Product Version Maximum frame size (bytes)
GS105 Serial number prefix 126 9216
GS108 Serial number prefix 127 9216
GS116 Serial number prefix 140 10240

 

[nekote]

What is the advantage of a "managed" switch (vs. unmanaged?).

A managed switch essentially a router that doesn't do routing???

Simply explanations / URL pointers would be appreciated.

TIA!

 

[jalaram]

Originally posted by: nekote
What is the advantage of a "managed" switch (vs. unmanaged?).

A managed switch essentially a router that doesn't do routing???

Simply explanations / URL pointers would be appreciated.

TIA!

I saw this explanation on a web site:

The simplest way to think about it is this: A managed switch lets you take control of your network and all the traffic moving through it, while an unmanaged switch simply allows Ethernet devices to communicate with one another. For example, when you connect your Ethernet devices (PC, network printer, and so on) to an unmanaged switch, they usually will communicate with each other automatically.

 

[VooDooAddict]

Originally posted by: Thoreau
Or for not much more, go managed =)

Awsome, I may have to grab one of those.

 

[ynotravid]

I cannot see a reason to have a managed switch with so few ports unless it's going to be a backbone to several larger LAN's.

I mention this because the way I see it, unless you can really use the extra features(like virtual LANs), then all a managed switch can offer you is slightly slower performance.

 

[l3thal]

I have the 5 port Gigabit Switch ($29.99 AR at COMPUSA)

and it owns

Nortel makes great products. yes Nortel makes Netgear, duh

Linksys for the lose. Same with Cisco.

We have a Cisco Router at my work and it has sucked the big one a time or too.

We use Nortel Switches per Node and they own. HARD

The Management Software is really simple, clean and quick on that Switch.

Buy it.

 

[jalaram]

Originally posted by: ynotravid
I cannot see a reason to have a managed switch with so few ports unless it's going to be a backbone to several larger LAN's.

I mention this because the way I see it, unless you can really use the extra features(like virtual LANs), then all a managed switch can offer you is slightly slower performance.

The Dell PowerConnect 2708 switch that was posted above has a button that changes the behavior to/from managed/unmanaged.

I don't know if that affects the speed or not.

 

[Fallen Kell]

Originally posted by: l3thal
I have the 5 port Gigabit Switch ($29.99 AR at COMPUSA)

and it owns

Nortel makes great products. yes Nortel makes Netgear, duh

Linksys for the lose. Same with Cisco.

We have a Cisco Router at my work and it has sucked the big one a time or too.

We use Nortel Switches per Node and they own. HARD

The Management Software is really simple, clean and quick on that Switch.

Buy it.

Sounds like your work either has a bad router and doesn't realise it or they do not have properly trained personnel who are operating/managing it. I am sorry to say this, but most of the problems people have with Cisco gear has to do with improper training on the equipment. Cisco sure as hell isn't known for their "easy to use" software, but they are THE standard for high performance network equipment. We had a lot of problems with Cisco gear at our work, but those problems were all traced down to operator error due to improper training.

 

[nekote]

http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pwcnt/en/pwcnt_27xx_specs.pdf

"Jumbo frame support up to 9000 Bytes (2716 & 2724 only)"

So much for paying a few extra bucks to get managed AND jumbo frame support?

 

[manno]

I've been told that this switch supports jumbo frames

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B8...iptionId=1ENQR1DG26K4HBZ4H702&n=172282

 

[NaiMan]

Originally posted by: manno
I've been told that this switch supports jumbo frames

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B8...iptionId=1ENQR1DG26K4HBZ4H702&n=172282

any experience or reviews on this one?

 

[nekote]

Originally posted by: manno
told that this supports jumbo frames

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B8...iptionId=1ENQR1DG26K4HBZ4H702&n=172282

I don't see "jumbo" in the description (though it is sometimes left out of a feature list):
(implicit in the controller chip used?)

Product Description
The 8-port 1000BASE-T Gigabit Ethernet Switch is designed for use in SMB and enterprise connection settings. It eliminates network bottlenecks while giving users the capability to fine-tune its performance. The desktop size is suitable for SMB environment. Clear, at-a-glance per-device/per-port LED indicators makes it easy to understand and control network status. Switch controller Broadcom BCM5388 Single Gigabit PHY Broadcom BCM5014R Wire speed on all ports and port options Full-wire speed (full-duplex) operation on all ports Forwarding mode Store and forward Port packet filtering/forwarding rate 14,880 pps for 10M 148,809 pps for 100M 1,488,095 pps for 1000M MAC address table Supports 4K MAC address 10BASE-T/ 100BASE-TX/ 1000BASE-T Gigabit Ethernet ports IEEE 802.3 10BASE-T IEEE 802.3u compliance IEEE 802.3ab compliance Support Half/Full-Duplex operations at 10/100Mbps. Support Full-Duplex operations at 1000Mbps. IEEE 802.3x Flow control supports for Full Duplex. Support back pressure for Half-Duplex operation

 

[Wyck]

Try not to get too caught up in the Jumbo Frame propoganda. To use Jumbo Frames every device on the network has to support them and the improvement isn't worth the time invested in configuration/compliance.

 

[cooliodealio]

This deal is not great. The Netgear Gigabit GS05 switch was on sale for $20 AR at CompUSA a few weeks ago.

 

[jamesbond007]

Originally posted by: Wyck
Try not to get too caught up in the Jumbo Frame propoganda. To use Jumbo Frames every device on the network has to support them and the improvement isn't worth the time invested in configuration/compliance.

A friend of mine also stated this. He has a few gigabit (Nortel) switches that we use for our LAN parties (100-200 people) as backbones and jumbo frames are not worth the hassle. He also said that his linux routers wouldn't work on the network after switching everything over properly.

With a basic gigabit switch w/o jumbo frames, my friend and I are able to sustain ~40-45MB/sec constant...which is getting up there as far as our harddisks' threshhold. As far as I'm concerned, any gigabit switch will do and that Dell one seems pretty nice for the price. (being managed and all)