Nevada middle school shooting...

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TerryMathews

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It is because you are delusional. In this forum, people jump to label someone "liberal" about 10x more than the opposite. Additionally, there is no liberal party in the US, since the democrats are middle/right. At least conservatives EXIST in the US, considering both parties are further ot the right of even the conservative parties of other first world countries...

Do you have DominionSeraph on ignore?
 

nehalem256

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Looks like we have yet another shooting in a liberal state.

Maybe if liberals were responsible with their guns we wouldn't have this problem.

After all in the gun-mecca of Texas they have stabbings instead since conservatives know proper gun safety ()
 

HomerJS

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I think parents should be responsible for the actions of their children in the same manner that dog owners are responsible for their dogs.

Would you support that?

If an owner lets their dog roam free and it kills someone, yes.
 

HomerJS

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How was this possible in the first place? Aren't schools "Gun-Free Zones"? There should have been no way for the kid to take a gun there, since they aren't allowed.

So gun free zones don't worked and armed guards in schools don't work. Guess we just throw up our hands.
 
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How about schools and parents stop the bulling?

Guns are not the problem.

Bulling is the root cause of the majority of these school shootings.

Bullying is a part of school life. We can work to minimize that, but short of having everyone march like they do in North Korea, kids will have their moments where there are bullies and there are nerds and other cliques.

I think what kids need to learn is that grabbing a gun to shoot up a school isn't an option, and that no matter how bad their troubles, it will never be an option. 99% of people behave well, but it's the 1% that screw up that ruin it for everyone. Get a grip.
 

davmat787

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I have no problem with this, but it will never happen.

Could you imagine the bellyaching we would get if we held parents liable for the delinquency of their children? The thefts? The assaults? Gang violence?

I'm assuming you aren't wanting to single out gun owners as being more liable than other parents... :sly:



With authority comes responsibility.

Which is why if this turns out to involve bullying, and the school knew about it, they should have legal culpability as well. If schools are going to spend money monitoring what kids do in their own time as we have seen in CA, and if they are going to discipline students for driving a drunk friend home as we saw in CN, then they should surely have some legal culpability for what happens RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSES in regards to bullying.

Just recently a teen in FL killed herself due to bullying. I bet the school was aware but did nothing. The principal was probably too busy trolling cheerleaders facebook pages and looking at pics on those other social sites that are popular with the kids these days.

Start holding parents and schools more accountable and I bet things will improve to some degree.
 

davmat787

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Bullying is a part of school life. We can work to minimize that, but short of having everyone march like they do in North Korea, kids will have their moments where there are bullies and there are nerds and other cliques.

I think what kids need to learn is that grabbing a gun to shoot up a school isn't an option, and that no matter how bad their troubles, it will never be an option. 99% of people behave well, but it's the 1% that screw up that ruin it for everyone. Get a grip.

That is true, bullying is a part of school life for SOME students. Usually they are the easy mark and have perhaps been enduring some bullying for most of their student life.

And now with social media, they are bullied in front of the whole world.

But of course the school doesn't want to bear any responsibility, they are too busy worrying what kids are doing in their own time and off school property. Schools should fix what happens under their noses first.
 

2timer

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Something should be done, I would suggest public service messages warning parents to keep firearms out of reach of their children. Also school staff should be trained to spot emotionally compromised children so that they can be given counseling before they snap.

I agree, I think this would be an excellent idea.
 

2timer

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Bullying is a part of school life. We can work to minimize that, but short of having everyone march like they do in North Korea, kids will have their moments where there are bullies and there are nerds and other cliques.

I think what kids need to learn is that grabbing a gun to shoot up a school isn't an option, and that no matter how bad their troubles, it will never be an option. 99% of people behave well, but it's the 1% that screw up that ruin it for everyone. Get a grip.

I think that you're right in that while bullying is a part of school life, most kids learn to cope and they eventually turn out fine. I believe the problem is the small 1% who have compounding issues like they are disturbed mentally, bad family situation, and also behavioral/learning disorders. When all those situations add up, then it's enough to push them over the edge - especially when guns are easily accessible.

It's not just bullying by itself, it's a group of factors together that causes the problem.
 

DrPizza

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You missed my point. I am simply stating that sometimes kids figure out work arounds, no matter how hard the parents try and secure things. And we still don't know exactly how it happened. Human minds are just damn dangerous sometimes. What may seem secure in one's mind, may be easily violated by another mind.

Yes, the event is nothing but tragic!

I pointed this out a few months ago in another thread: 50 years ago, a vast majority of young boys had pocket knives. They freely carried them to school. Sure, there were bullies back then, and there were school yard fights. But, no one, not the winner, not the loser, ever thought of pulling out that pocket knife and using it as a weapon. The fights were fought with fists. So, what happened in the meantime? My personal opinion is the way in which these stories are sensationalized. Every kid who decides to even the score & go after the bullies sees examples of others who have done the same. They no longer care about their own self-preservation. Now, they're going to go out in a blaze of glory, just like all these other cases.

That is true, bullying is a part of school life for SOME students. Usually they are the easy mark and have perhaps been enduring some bullying for most of their student life.

And now with social media, they are bullied in front of the whole world.

But of course the school doesn't want to bear any responsibility, they are too busy worrying what kids are doing in their own time and off school property. Schools should fix what happens under their noses first.
Actually, not quite true. NY Law now makes schools responsible for policing bullying of their students on social media sites. If a student feels he or she is bullied & brings that in to the school, the staff cannot say, "bummer, but that happened out of school, we're not getting involved." The school now has the responsibility to deal with the matter. http://www.governor.ny.gov/press/07092012cyberbullying
 

Doppel

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I really must say I absolutely hate it when I read things like "bullying is part of life" and "it makes kids tough". This is pure bullshit. And no, I am not suffering any intense trauma from being bullied myself in life, as I wasn't.

There is a big scale of what is considered bullying, and for a small percentage of victims at the far end of the scale, the bullying is constant and severe. It's really no wonder kids end up killing themselves when exposed to it. If you combine an emotionally vulnerable kid (news flash: 99% of kids are vulnerable to some degree) plus some confluence of variables in which they get teamed up with a bully or bullies, bad things happen. It's also not surprising that those with the means to do so first take it out on those who bully them.

There is every indication that social media compounds the damage of bullying. For some kids it is the worst thing in their lives. Just as a kid who goes home and is abused by their father will hate to go home, some kids hate school. They are stuck at it for a few dozen hours/week with people whom they hate and are ridiculed by constantly. And, since they are kids, they cannot take it.

Generally bullies are either made by their parents, or allowed by their parents to bully (oblivious or do not care).
 

shadow9d9

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Looks like we have yet another shooting in a liberal state.

Maybe if liberals were responsible with their guns we wouldn't have this problem.

After all in the gun-mecca of Texas they have stabbings instead since conservatives know proper gun safety ()

This didn't happen in Vermont, which is the only liberal state in the union, hence the socialist senator.
 

unokitty

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Sparks Middle School shooting followed anti-bullying video’s theme

An anti-bullying video allegedly shown to the 12-year-old shooter at Sparks Middle School is being suggested as the inspiration behind his deadly shooting spree.

Amaya Newton, an eighth grader at the Nevada school, says the boy was often mistreated by fellow students and that the video showing a bullied girl retaliating with a gun in the days before may have "gotten into his head."

"She brought a gun on the bus to scare them and threatened to kill them," Amaya told MyNews4 of the video allegedly shown at school. "It was an anti-bullying movie but it could have gotten into his head about the girl scaring the bullies with the gun."

Unintended consequence?

Uno
 
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