Whaaaat? But then there is no mass slaughter of Americans. What are you trying to do here?
They way you fetishize this and seem to dream about that slaughter is really gross.
Whaaaat? But then there is no mass slaughter of Americans. What are you trying to do here?
They way you fetishize this and seem to dream about that slaughter is really gross.
Aren't you supposed to be debating the effect of the recent drought on wild Western crab-grass, and if cattle should be grazing?
Hurry up with that research paper, all this civil rights nonsense is just a side-show.
That is definitely what should have been done, and what should be done now. Less the cost of the cattle killed, of course, and plus the cost of litigating the issue.Judge Napolitano
The governments option is to take the amount of money he owes them and docket it, that is file the lien on his property .the federal government could have done that, instead they wanted this show of force,
Since there was no loss of life*, pretty sure neither side wanted that.Whaaaat? But then there is no mass slaughter of Americans. What are you trying to do here?
Or, just tell him any cattle found on the land after X date are going to be labelled an endangered species and can't be touched by anyone thereafter.That is definitely what should have been done, and what should be done now. Less the cost of the cattle killed, of course, and plus the cost of litigating the issue.
Since there was no loss of life*, pretty sure neither side wanted that.
*Except cattle life, obviously. But this is the federal government; killing 13% of a herd could well be just good old-fashioned incompetence.
Or they're free range cattle, free for whomever can gun them down and drag them off.Or, just tell him any cattle found on the land after X date are going to be labelled an endangered species and can't be touched by anyone thereafter.
Maybe so however how many people knew the Feds owned 76% of Nevada before this broke? Its just not how things work especially on the East coast.
I have a feeling that the feds greatly underestimated the capacity of these people to show up fully armed on horseback in full defensive formation.
Nobody cares about what bundy did.
HAHAHA you have got to be kidding. You must watch Red Dawn a lot...
Judge Napolitano
“The government’s option is to take the amount of money he owes them and docket it, that is file the lien on his property….the federal government could have done that, instead they wanted this show of force,”
I'm trying to understand exactly what your position is. My interpretation of your posts on this thread is that you see the mass turnout of armed "patriots" as a good thing in of itself, regardless of the cause or lack of cause. Do you see adding the threat of violence to policy and politics as a good thing?
So, they get the lien on the property, then what? How do they collect? A lien would be a court order which has to be enforced. Who enforces it? This situation happened just because they were trying to take his cows, imagine how many yahoos would show up if the guberment(government) used this issue to seize his farm and land.
The lien doesn't stop the issue of the enforcement. And taken his land would be more draconian than taking his cattle. But, again, why should the government bend? He lost in court. Twice.
When you get evicted, doesn't a sheriff show up to throw u out? Do you have aright to fight them?
You should learm what terms like lein mean before discussing them. Yikes.
You should learm what terms like lein mean before discussing them. Yikes.
What this case appears to be, is a well-armed flash mob assembled to essentially back down the federal government from enforcing the law. I respect the government's decision to de-escalate this situation, but the government did not create this confrontation - an idiot militia man did.
Ask urself what the enforcement mechanism on a lien is. Maybe you could google it.
Yet he does have some legitimate complaints, no matter how poorly he has handled them. Government is not necessarily in the right simply because it is government, and very few issues are black and white, right and wrong.What this case appears to be, is a well-armed flash mob assembled to essentially back down the federal government from enforcing the law. I respect the government's decision to de-escalate this situation, but the government did not create this confrontation - an idiot militia man did.
What this case appears to be, is a well-armed flash mob assembled to essentially back down the federal government from enforcing the law. I respect the government's decision to de-escalate this situation, but the government did not create this confrontation - an idiot militia man did.
You're right, we did fight a war over this very shit. But that time around the patriots were on the side opposing hereditary privilege. This time the "patriots" are lining up to maintain it, against their own self interest. I guess one need not be too bright to be a "patriot".Shall not comply. Remember we fought a war over this very shit.
Unjust laws are NOT to be followed and civil disobedience, preferably armed, should be deployed.
Shall not comply. Remember we fought a war over this very shit.
But do keep obeying your beloved federal government for they can do no wrong. Useful idiot.