Yeah, I'm waiting for you to back up -
A) That the UK would be OK with someone taking over some state land by force of arms.
B) That the UK would be more accepting of Stormfronts views given that Stormfront was set up in the US and has vastly greater support there.
Yeah, I'm waiting for you to back up -
A) That the UK would be OK with someone taking over some state land by force of arms.
Are you serious? That's the history of the UK.
That's just his opinion. I share it, too. I just look at things like the royal family, EDL, UKIP, etc.
Many people are fighting Cliven Bundy's positions because we don't want America to become like the UK.
Are you serious? That's the history of the UK.
That's just his opinion. I share it, too. I just look at things like the royal family, EDL, UKIP, etc.
Many people are fighting Cliven Bundy's positions because we don't want America to become like the UK.
Yeah we dont tend to have a history of making black people pick cotton in the first place
Nah I'm pretty new in here still, I've just Stewox do things off the scale lately.You've not seen canomongoose bring the crazy before? Its entertaining if slightly obsessive.
Pretty much. Cliven Bundy would be a very viable and strong political or cultural representative in the UK if he was there. In the US? He's now a total joke and hated. But he would be celebrated in the UK and elsewhere in Europe.
American reaction to racism is far more forceful than UK/European action which is actually very accepting of it. The threshold for racism in Europe is so low that racism is basically seen as normal.
Annnndd back into the present... Do you think the UK police would have let someone take over some land because he got a bunch of his mates to turn up with guns?
Wait we were talking about Stormfront, you know the US organisation that the leader was banned from entering the UK.
Yeah we dont tend to have a history of making black people pick cotton in the first place so his positions wouldnt make much sense here anyway.
Its funny that your ingrained Euro hate has sidetracked you away from your hate of racists in your own country though. At least that gives us an insight into your own xenophobia being your strongest character trait.
Its funny that your ingrained Euro hate has sidetracked you away from your hate of racists in your own country though. At least that gives us an insight into your own xenophobia being your strongest character trait.
Possibly.
Yes.
Are you being serious? The UK has an incredibly offensive history of making black and other people into slaves. Your comment is a true Clive Bundy like comment. Disgusting.
Then why am I condemning Bundy and others of his ilk in the US, as well as attacking their sacred white privilege constantly?
Wrong. I despise Cliven Bundy and celebrate his downfall and hatred at the national level. But that's the thing - this type of reaction would never happen in the UK/Europe.
The tolerance for racism there is very strong. We see it with how defensive you are getting over real racial issues in the UK. It will never improve as long as Europeans/British people refuse to acknowledge their severe racial problems - indeed, just here we see you pretending that British atrocities didn't occur with regard to slavery. If you cannot even accept your own history then you will not change your present.
Lol. You might want to look up some UK gun laws some time.
So the UK is more supportive of Stormfront even tough weve made it illeagal for some of its members to enter the country. OK.
Now I'm not one to blame people today for things that were done yesterday but really, you might look at your own country first if your worried about historical numbers of slaves kept.
Well I can see that the issue has a lot to do with the British Royal family, I can totally see why you needed to bring them into it. :hmm:
Any chance you could just use the same account? Its not like you are saying anything different in either of them anyway.
Yup! The key is "more supportive" and that references to the UK are not only to the government, but also society itself.
You don't have to blame individual people, but the governments are still around. Additionally, I don't think a numbers type of argument would bode well for you since the UK was the world's largest slaver well into the 20th century, enslaving hundreds of millions across the world. I don't think this is a good direction to take a discussion on the international perspective of Cliven Bundy anyways.
A lot of what Cliven Bundy talks about is basically white privilege and society as if it's reserved for white people. That's basically what the UK royal family is about. I wouldn't be surprised if Cliven Bundy is the type who watched the last royal wedding on television. He probably takes a lot of pride in thinking that some inbred family is being kept as a superior white bloodline.
That's the type of attitude that we're fighting here in the US. We will not become the UK. Keep that third world crap out of here. Privilege for none, equality for all!
Any chance that you could just go post at Stormfront and leave this place? It's not like you are saying anything different than what those bigots are saying.
So you're still arguing that you think that the UK police would be OK if a bunch a gun toting guys turned up on a piece of land and threatened the police?
Honestly I cant imagine the clusterfuck that would occur in that situation, but I'm betting it would involve a serious response by the armed services.
Youre the one that decided to take the issue off on a tangent.
Many people are fighting Cliven Bundy's positions because we don't want America to become like the UK.
Yeah we dont tend to have a history of making black people pick cotton in the first place so his positions wouldnt make much sense here anyway.
Er, the whole Royal thing has nothing to do with being reserved for being white. You might want to look into how the whole hereditary thing works. You dont get a shoe in for being the same colour as them.
Very nice. Good choice of catch phrase. :thumbsup: Nice and hollow.
amazing what the dems find important.
Benghazi - non story
irs targeting conservatives - non story
fast and furious - non story.
etc etc
Some rancher douch bag. - story.
I think there's a possibility, especially if they have the blessing of the Royal Family. Additionally, the armed services or police probably won't do anything because they might themselves support it. The UK is already a white pride stronghold, in government and society.
The reason why there's a lot of opposition to Bundy in the US is that we haven't become a white pride stronghold yet. We're on that trajectory, but hopefully we won't make it.
No, I did not. I stated:
Many people are fighting Cliven Bundy's positions because we don't want America to become like the UK.
You, for some bizarre reason, responded with:
Yeah we dont tend to have a history of making black people pick cotton in the first place so his positions wouldnt make much sense here anyway.
Your comment was on par with Cliven Bundy's comments. You both share offensive historical revisionism.
In effect it basically is. It's an institution based on bigotry.
Your like may have won in the UK, but your brethren will lose in the US.
Fox News host and resident media critic Howard Kurtz on Sunday lashed out at his own network for going virtually silent for hours after a Nevada rancher many hosts had been promoting started expressing racist viewpoints.
The New York Times reported on Wednesday that Cliven Bundy had recently held a press conference to blast the federal government for requiring him to pay the $1 million in grazing fees that he owed, but it was his comments about “the negro” and slavery that shut down Fox News’ favorable, non-stop coverage of the rancher.
You forget who you're talking to.This is an amazing distortion of reality. Conservatives are EXPLICITLY the ones that tried to drive the cliven Bundy story. They made it a cause. Now that it turns out he's a terrible person apparently the game plan is to pretend that liberals were the ones behind the story all along.
Genuine question: do you actually believe all this bullshit they try to feed you? I mean nobody can be this naive.
Why would I post at Stormfront? I don't need any Apple products.
This is an amazing distortion of reality. Conservatives are EXPLICITLY the ones that tried to drive the cliven Bundy story. They made it a cause. Now that it turns out he's a terrible person apparently the game plan is to pretend that liberals were the ones behind the story all along.
Genuine question: do you actually believe all this bullshit they try to feed you? I mean nobody can be this naive.
Because you are more in line with Cliven Bundy. You can probably find some like minded individuals there who will accept your views, though I suppose you could also find that any random place in the UK since Cliven Bundy's positions are fairly mainstream in the UK.
I'm failing to see what an Apple reseller has to do with an American nutter?