Nevermind

[dullard]

Some of these jobs require a "apprenticeship" and/or a community college "certificate" but none requires a degree or experience in another field.

You have a noble goal and there is some truth to it. There are many very good paying jobs that do not require college degrees or do not require a lot of experience.

But, like others have said, you are so, so, so misguided. Guess what? A community collage certificate IS a degree. An apprenticeship IS experience. In case that didn't get through, I made a MS Paint drawing for you:


I do regularly help out the needy -- whether they are homeless, or kids, or whatever. The first thing you need to know is that they can't just jump from their current position to where you wish them to be. You can't teach a starving person to fish--they have no strength to reel in the fish even if they did somehow magically have a pole, and bait, and money for a fishing license, and access to a private lake/stream or at least money to enter public fishing grounds, and a knife to fillet it, and a kitchen to cook it. You need to both feed the starving person AND AFTER THAT then you can teach them to fish. If you do only one of the two, then you will fail.

The vast majority of homeless have mental problems. Many have drug or alcohol problems. Virtually all have a serious medical problem. All have societal problems (no one on your list will hire a smelly, dirty homeless person in an interview and even if they wanted to there is no phone number or address to notify them they are hired). You need to address those issues first and then help them on their way to one of the jobs on your list.

 

[Torn Mind]

Some homeless maybe open to rehabilitation.

Others are more than satisfied with being duplicitous, destructive legal weasels whose only purpose in life is to get a de facto 3+ of free property possession before being routinely evicted. For this subset, homeownership is never going to be a goal because becoming a homeowner means becoming to open to owing liens and other forms of compulsion. Whereas, remaining a predatory tenant allows for much more protections for civil misconduct and debt dodging.

 

[Pohemi]

"Local dimwit found robbed and murdered outside homeless encampment"

Film at 11.

That's what I was going to say to Gizmo: don't get shanked, bro.

Some homeless maybe open to rehabilitation.

Others are more than satisfied with being duplicitous, destructive legal weasels whose only purpose in life is to get a de facto 3+ of free property possession before being routinely evicted. For this subset, homeownership is never going to be a goal because becoming a homeowner means becoming to open to owing liens and other forms of compulsion. Whereas, remaining a predatory tenant allows for much more protections for civil misconduct and debt dodging.

I'm not even going to touch that one. Just...wow.

 

[Gizmo j]

"Local dimwit found robbed and murdered outside homeless encampment"

Film at 11.

That's what I was going to say to Gizmo: don't get shanked, bro.

I used to live in a shelter on skid row in 2013 before I went to job corps, it's not that bad.

Registered Nurses
General and Operations Managers
Heavy and Tractor-Trailer Truck Drivers
First-Line Supervisors of Office and Administrative Support Workers
Software Developers
Elementary School Teachers, Except Special Education
Accountants and Auditors
Sales Representatives, Wholesale and Manufacturing, Except Technical and Scientific Products
First-Line Supervisors of Retail Sales Workers
Business Operations Specialists, All Other
Sales Representatives of Services, Except Advertising, Insurance, Financial Services, and Travel
Secondary School Teachers, Except Special and Career/Technical Education
Management Analysts
Project Management Specialists
Human Resources Specialists
Market Research Analysts and Marketing Specialists
Financial Managers
Lawyers
Carpenters
First-Line Supervisors of Construction Trades and Extraction Workers
Police and Sheriff's Patrol Officers
Computer User Support Specialists
Electricians
Licensed Practical and Licensed Vocational Nurses
Automotive Service Technicians and Mechanics
First-Line Supervisors of Production and Operating Workers
Middle School Teachers, Except Special and Career/Technical Education
First-Line Supervisors of Transportation and Material Moving Workers, Except Aircraft Cargo Handling Supervisors
First-Line Supervisors of Mechanics, Installers, and Repairers
Computer Systems Analysts
Managers, All Other
Computer and Information Systems Managers
Executive Secretaries and Executive Administrative Assistants
Sales Managers
Medical and Health Services Managers
Securities, Commodities, and Financial Services Sales Agents
Insurance Sales Agents
Plumbers, Pipefitters, and Steamfitters

 

[Red Squirrel]

Most of those do require certification of sort. You can't just jump in to a job like that without jumping through lot of hoops and lots of time and money to be certified unfortunately. Makes it hard to get into especially for people that are not book smart, even though they'd probably still be good at the job.

 

[Pohemi]

I used to live in a shelter on skid row in 2013 before I went to job corps, it's not that bad.

Yeah I wasn't thinking just of the neighborhood, but a possible outcome for tossing job pamphlets at homeless people. They might not take kindly to it, honestly.

 

[blackangst1]

I can see it now!

Too old

 

[Mai72]

Bah. You should put these type of jobs that people want today. And no HS diploma needed.

YouTube Influencer
Twitch Streamer
Instagram Scammer
TikTok Grifter and Online Money Advice Guru
Online Multi Millionaire Who Sells "How to Get Rich" Amazon Courses
OnlyFans Influencer
Online Prankster (Its only a prank bro!)
Twitter Troll who Makes Angry Posts on Biden
ATOT Forum Troll (I heard it pays well)

 

[Meghan54]

Welding, Plumbing, etc still require study and practice within the craft(along with being a shady salesman/property damager to milk more money).

Post Office worker, that less demanding of the mind...but mentally...well...going postal became a phrase for a reason.

Ever taken the P.O. tests? Nor exactly hard but if u don’t have a very quick and discerning eye for very minor differences in addresses, names, number sequences, etc… you’re gonna suck at the test and won’t get past step 1.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Your new idea is still a bad idea. The last thing unhoused people need is some patronizing person giving them a flier on median salaries.

You also are misunderstanding the root causes of homelessness. For many, it isn't because they can't hold a job - it's often because they can't afford expensive housing in the first place. And then when you don't have a permanent place, the problems start to pile up.

Exactly and now they can't get a job because they don't have an address, and they can't get an address because they don't have a job or recent housing history.

 

[Pohemi]

Exactly and now they can't get a job because they don't have an address, and they can't get an address because they don't have a job or recent housing history.

Not to mention needing a working phone for finding a job. And while you can sometimes get emergency housing or stay in a shelter, that doesn't give you a mailing address to use. Even most or all government benefits require you to have a permanent mailing address.

 

[PowerEngineer]

Rather than pass these job suggestions on to others, I'd be interested in having the OP start applying for these easy-to-get jobs and report back to us as soon as he can actually get one.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Bah. You should put these type of jobs that people want today. And no HS diploma needed.

YouTube Influencer
Twitch Streamer
Instagram Scammer
TikTok Grifter and Online Money Advice Guru
Online Multi Millionaire Who Sells "How to Get Rich" Amazon Courses
OnlyFans Influencer
Online Prankster (Its only a prank bro!)
Twitter Troll who Makes Angry Posts on Biden
ATOT Forum Troll (I heard it pays well)

I wonder if a Twitter influencer is a thing, Elon should be paying me at this point for using the platform more than I did before. Maybe I get a gold star when I hit 5k followers. Like, real gold.

 

[Captante]

Rather than pass these job suggestions on to others, I'd be interested in having the OP start applying for these easy-to-get jobs and report back to us as soon as he can actually get one.

Don't be silly!

Nvidia or AMD will be calling OP any day now.....

I wonder if a Twitter influencer is a thing

@Gizmo j isn't even an ATOT influencer!

 

[tcsenter]

Yeah I would knock off the 'no experience' and keep emphasis on no (formal) college or university degree. Also, I've gotten to know people who made very decent money in sales positions that didn't require any degree. All kinds of sales people for every conceivable segment of our economy and not all of them require shirt, tie, and Colgate smile (and there are solutions for lesser smiles).

Unfortunately, almost every job does require some cognitive, mental, and executive functioning that is beyond so many of the 'skid row' people, it's partly why some of them ended-up there because they are not able to keep their ducks in a row cognitively even before the drugs. The big lie of drugs is that they actually do help improve mental functioning and mood....for a while.

 

[sdifox]

Yeah I would knock off the 'no experience' and keep emphasis on no (formal) college or university degree. Also, I've gotten to know people who made very decent money in sales positions that didn't require any degree. All kinds of sales people for every conceivable segment of our economy and not all of them require shirt, tie, and Colgate smile (and there are solutions for lesser smiles).

Unfortunately, almost every job does require some cognitive, mental, and executive functioning that is beyond so many of the 'skid row' people, it's partly why some of them ended-up there because they are not able to keep their ducks in a row cognitively even before the drugs. The big lie of drugs is that they actually do help improve mental functioning and mood....for a while.

Err trades have instructor led classes as well. Just less theory than your average university classes.

 

[RPD]

Your new idea is still a bad idea. The last thing unhoused people need is some patronizing person giving them a flier on median salaries.

You also are misunderstanding the root causes of homelessness. For many, it isn't because they can't hold a job - it's often because they can't afford expensive housing in the first place. And then when you don't have a permanent place, the problems start to pile up.

Yea no, simply giving a roof over these people's head isn't going to do jack for 99% of them. They are homeless because they have an addiction problem and/or a mental health problem. Otherwise the solution would be just give them a room at a unfilled motel and ta-da. Sorry but the cost of housing has virtually nothing to do with them being on the streets.

 

[Brainonska511]

Yea no, simply giving a roof over these people's head isn't going to do jack for 99% of them. They are homeless because they have an addiction problem and/or a mental health problem. Otherwise the solution would be just give them a room at a unfilled motel and ta-da. Sorry but the cost of housing has virtually nothing to do with them being on the streets.

Sorry, but the major driver of homeless is not mental illness or addiction. The unhoused may have more problems with those things, but it isn't the primary reason they become homeless.

The Obvious Answer to Homelessness

And why everyone’s ignoring it

www.theatlantic.com

I want to be precise here. It is true that many people who become homeless are mentally ill. It is also true that becoming homeless exposes people to a range of traumatic experiences, which can create new problems that housing alone may not be able to solve. But the claim that drug abuse and mental illness are the fundamental causes of homelessness falls apart upon investigation. If mental-health issues or drug abuse were major drivers of homelessness, then places with higher rates of these problems would see higher rates of homelessness. They don’t. Utah, Alabama, Colorado, Kentucky, West Virginia, Vermont, Delaware, and Wisconsin have some of the highest rates of mental illness in the country, but relatively modest homelessness levels. What prevents at-risk people in these states from falling into homelessness at high rates is simple: They have more affordable-housing options.

 

[Captante]

LONG-TERM homeless people do tend to be addicts and to have mental problems however it's 100% a "chicken or the egg" situation.

The primary reason people become homeless in 'murica is lack of affordable housing.

Two reasons they fail to extricate themselves from the situation are addiction and mental illness. These are symptoms not the actual disease.

 

[RPD]

Sorry, but the major driver of homeless is not mental illness or addiction. The unhoused may have more problems with those things, but it isn't the primary reason they become homeless.

The Obvious Answer to Homelessness

And why everyone’s ignoring it

www.theatlantic.com

Wrong. Just put them in motels, problem solved. It's so simple, go do it. Places with the most homeless also have some of the best weather. You think all the people in tent cities in CA are all from CA? That's cute.

 

[Captante]

Homeless people migrate to warm places for the same reason those places have more/larger insect and reptile populations. (and invasive species)

It's WAY easier to survive outdoors when temps don't fall below freezing.

I talk to homeless folks in my area all the time and they ALL without exception have benefited tremendously from Connecticut's "hotel/shelter" program that has them living indoors.

 

[Brainonska511]

Wrong. Just put them in motels, problem solved. It's so simple, go do it. Places with the most homeless also have some of the best weather. You think all the people in tent cities in CA are all from CA? That's cute.

NYC and Boston have high rates of homelessness. They aren't exactly known for their fair weather year-round.

Houston also has great weather, but they've managed to cut homelessness, largely by providing people with housing.

 

[Captante]

Houston also has great weather, but they've managed to cut homelessness, largely by providing people with housing.

Exactly.

The homelessness "problem" in 'murica boils down to greed and ignorance.

It's one hell of lot easier to provide effective treatment/help to a person who isn't engaged in a constant struggle just to survive each day and while not an ideal solution, a hotel room can facilitate this.

I sincerely hope you "know it alls" that somehow believe lack of affordable housing "isn't the problem" don't learn how wrong you are the hard way at some point. (it doesn't take much)

Far as housing goes there IS NO SAFETY-NET. In 'murica if you freeze to death under a bush right next to a 5-star steak house jam-packed with rich people, nobody will give a rat's patoot until you start to smell bad.

What a "great" country we live in.

 

[RPD]

NYC and Boston have high rates of homelessness. They aren't exactly known for their fair weather year-round.

Houston also has great weather, but they've managed to cut homelessness, largely by providing people with housing.

Do either place have physical tent cites that the bay area or LA have? Do you see these massive tent cities in snow in either of your examples?

 

[Brainonska511]

Do either place have physical tent cites that the bay area or LA have? Do you see these massive tent cities in snow in either of your examples?

Boston had a tent city going on at Mass and Cass for some time. The only big reason you don't have as many tent encampments is weather: colder places tend to have some sort of shelter system in place, but that can hardly be called adequate. But lack of tents != Lack of homeless people.

But the big thing connecting all cities in the US with high rates of homelessness is a lack of affordable housing, which is largely driven by a lack of overall housing supply.