New 8800GTS - UPDATED with PICS

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8800GTS (G92) pictured

We have heard about a 128SP GeForce 8800 GTS 512 card in December a while back and this time round, a China website IT168.com has managed to get hold of the card photos and specs. The 8800GTS 512 card uses the same G92 core but has 128 shader processors instead of 112 on the 8800GT. It is clocked slightly higher at 650MHz for core,1940MHz for the GDDR3 1ns memories and 1625Mhz for the shaders. The card takes up 2 slots due to a beefier cooling solution. The card is expected to be priced between US$299-349 and launch on Dec 3rd.

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GeForce 8800GTS 512MB

* G92 core chip
* 128 SP
* Core clock 650 MHz, the SP clock 1625 MHz
* 256 bit memory interface
* GDDR3 memory clock 970 MHz (effective clock 1940 MHz)
* The new version of a black double-slot fan (non-fans of the original GTS)
* Price 299 to 349 dollars
* 12 / 3 listing

This would give the card fillrate and bandwidth of
(Assuming the ROPs stay at 16)
Pixel Fillrate = 10400MP/s (old GTS = 10000MP/s)
Texel Fillrate = 41600MT/s (old GTS = 24000MT/s)
Bandwidth = ~62.1GB/s (old GTS = 64GB/s)

For the price, i think this card will beat the GTX across the board (but not at high res AA/AF situations but pretty close). By december 3rd im presuming G80 cores will reach EOL.

 

[requiem1]

if it is $300...that would be very very tempting....but i have a feeling it will be closer to $360-$400 or so...consider the 8800GT is around $300

 

[taltamir]

only due to merchant price gouging... and the new 38xx might spark a price war that will derail that... we might actually be getting good prices after all... halleluja!

 

[Hauk]

It's been a bittersweet two weeks for me, having sold my tweaked GTX. On the one hand I fared exceptionally well with the sale. On the other hand I let go of an awesome card that ran cool at Ultra specs. Sifting through the latest benchmarks makes me miss it even more.

I just pulled the trigger on an EVGA 8800 GT KO. Jacked up price, but I intend to step-up to a GTS, so it's money spent towards the step-up. For anyone looking to do the same, ClubIT has EVGA's in stock, right now...

 

[Rusin]

So it would have 32 TMU's.. and I don't see any reason why not 24 ROP's..atleast if G92 is similar (as it looks like) in structure as G80 then 24 ROP's would be the most natural configuration.

If so this card would be 6-8% stronger than 8800 Ultra..in all aspects but frame buffer (Which is why we want 1024MB version)

 

[GeneralOreo]

What exactly is that site? Is the OP there just a rumor or a poster sharing info?

This sounds really good at that price, now to see if Nvidia can manufacturer enough of them.

 

[Aiden]

Originally posted by: GeneralOreo
What exactly is that site? Is the OP there just a rumor or a poster sharing info?

This sounds really good at that price, now to see if Nvidia can manufacturer enough of them.

I wonder if thats the reason were not seeing alot of 8800 GT cpus, lack of the g92 chips for the 8800GT and this new GTS card.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: SteelSix
It's been a bittersweet two weeks for me, having sold my tweaked GTX. On the one hand I fared exceptionally well with the sale. On the other hand I let go of an awesome card that ran cool at Ultra specs. Sifting through the latest benchmarks makes me miss it even more.

I just pulled the trigger on an EVGA 8800 GT KO. Jacked up price, but I intend to step-up to a GTS, so it's money spent towards the step-up. For anyone looking to do the same, ClubIT has EVGA's in stock, right now...

Essentially my situation as well, but I'll probably wait the 90 days to see what if anything else is availble then (February is a while away) and to lower the step-up cost.

 

[baronzemo78]

Any news about the rumored 1gb memory GTS? or would it be to bandwith starved by a 256mb bus?

 

[CP5670]

It's interesting that it still only has 512MB of memory. That amount seems to be limiting even the weaker GT in some of the most recent games.

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: baronzemo78
Any news about the rumored 1gb memory GTS? or would it be to bandwith starved by a 256mb bus?

More VRAM wouldn't be wasted no, as "slower" G80 GTS parts still hold their own against G92 at higher resolutions where that extra VRAM would be put to use.

Kinda underwhelmed by this part, unless it has more ROPs at the minimum and ideally 768MB+ memory I doubt it'll be the GTX/Ultra killer everyone is expecting. Current specs indicate its nothing more than a GT with an additional 16SP and as the GT vs. G80 GTS comparisons showed us, more SP isn't everything when it comes to the 8-series and performance. Fillrate and texture memory are still very important, probably moreso in games that aren't taking full advantage of the extra shader ops or aren't bottlenecked by shader ops.

 

[Rusin]

If there wouldn't be reference model then there would be non-reference 1024MB model for sure. That 512MB part will have a lot higher demand so perhaps that's why they are launching it first.

 

[yacoub]

That'll be the new $349-429 MSRP GTS model that will essentially replace the GTX the way the GT does the old GTS and it'll offer 512 and 1024MB models. Just watch. =)
And expect the e-tailers to whore the prices after they saw what they could get away with on the GT. You'll see $400 for a 512MB model, easy.

 

[SniperDaws]

Ffs do i have to wait til this ones released befor buying a new Graphics card ? i was going to get an 8800GTS 640mb then someone said hang fire Nvidia have a new card coming out so i waited and bam the 8800GT was released and omg was i excited its was nearly £100 cheaper and it kicked the crap out of the 640mb GTS i WAS going to buy, so i again i was about to buy a card then somone said wait for ATI to release theres (2950XT) apparently its gonna be faster than the 8800GTX and cost less than the 8800GT, so i thought ok ok ill hang back a few weeks . So now the (2950XT) ATI HD3870 has shown its face and its a big disapointment, for me anyway.

i was just about to start searching for better prices and UK stock of the 8800GT and thought id check if anyone had posted any places in the UK in the Anand forums when i catch sight of this thread and now my heads up my arse again.


Should i wait for the new 8800GTS or buy the 8800GT when and if it comes back in stock?

i only upgrade my Graphics card at the least once every 2 years.

 

[Aiden]

Originally posted by: SniperDaws
Ffs do i have to wait til this ones released befor buying a new Graphics card ? i was going to get an 8800GTS 640mb then someone said hang fire Nvidia have a new card coming out so i waited and bam the 8800GT was released and omg was i excited its was nearly £100 cheaper and it kicked the crap out of the 640mb GTS i WAS going to buy, so i again i was about to buy a card then somone said wait for ATI to release theres (2950XT) apparently its gonna be faster than the 8800GTX and cost less than the 8800GT, so i thought ok ok ill hang back a few weeks . So now the (2950XT) ATI HD3870 has shown its face and its a big disapointment, for me anyway.

i was just about to start searching for better prices and UK stock of the 8800GT and thought id check if anyone had posted any places in the UK in the Anand forums when i catch sight of this thread and now my heads up my arse again.


Should i wait for the new 8800GTS or buy the 8800GT when and if it comes back in stock?

i only upgrade my Graphics card at the least once every 2 years.

buy an evga 8800gt , and register it in 30 days. This gives you the option of using the step-up program, which lets you trade your card in to evga for the price you paid for it, for a newer card, and the only real cost is the shipping+ difference between the cards.

 

[beatle]

Since the 8800GT isn't really in stock (at regular prices) I'd say the choice to buy now or wait is pretty clear cut. Try to be first on the bus for the new 8800GTS and let it ride.

 

[ArchAngel777]

Can someone please explain to me why this card is so great over the 8800GT? We are talking less than 15% more shaders and a minor increase in clocks over the 8800GT. It is still on the 256bit bus and I really don't see this card performing more than 20% better than the 8800GT. Overclock them both and I see even less performance difference.

Again, I have no idea why people are so excited over this new GTS. The performance margin is far, far lower than the GTS was to the GTX. The GTX had 25% shaders, higher clocks and a greater bus width. But the move from an 8800GT to an 8800GTS (new varient) is very 'minor'.

The card I am waiting for is the new high end... 160 shaders, now we are talking! Of course, that isn't confirmed.

 

[Munky]

I'm playing the waiting game too, although right now I'm really tempted to get the 3870 for $219. I hope the availability of the new gts isn't as bad as the gt.

 

[Syntax Error]

Originally posted by: SniperDaws
Ffs do i have to wait til this ones released befor buying a new Graphics card ? i was going to get an 8800GTS 640mb then someone said hang fire Nvidia have a new card coming out so i waited and bam the 8800GT was released and omg was i excited its was nearly £100 cheaper and it kicked the crap out of the 640mb GTS i WAS going to buy, so i again i was about to buy a card then somone said wait for ATI to release theres (2950XT) apparently its gonna be faster than the 8800GTX and cost less than the 8800GT, so i thought ok ok ill hang back a few weeks . So now the (2950XT) ATI HD3870 has shown its face and its a big disapointment, for me anyway.

i was just about to start searching for better prices and UK stock of the 8800GT and thought id check if anyone had posted any places in the UK in the Anand forums when i catch sight of this thread and now my heads up my arse again.


Should i wait for the new 8800GTS or buy the 8800GT when and if it comes back in stock?

i only upgrade my Graphics card at the least once every 2 years.

That's what you get for listening to people online, especially to the types that always say "wait, [insert name of fanboyish company here], they're gonna come out with a ROCKIN' card in a few weeks", and of course, this statement is completely heresay and unsourced.

There's always a bit of gambling when it comes to buying new technology, you missed out on the 8800GT I'm afraid, so if you need a graphics card now the ATI looks good, but I suppose if you have a lot of disposeable income it wouldn't hurt to wait for that new 8800GTS.

I'm not saying for you to wait, it could totally suck, you never know, but you can never always "wait" for the new thing, there's always a new thing coming out as soon as you order a computer part. You just have to accept that's how it is.

 

[Rusin]

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Can someone please explain to me why this card is so great over the 8800GT? We are talking less than 15% more shaders and a minor increase in clocks over the 8800GT. It is still on the 256bit bus and I really don't see this card performing more than 20% better than the 8800GT. Overclock them both and I see even less performance difference.

Again, I have no idea why people are so excited over this new GTS. The performance margin is far, far lower than the GTS was to the GTX. The GTX had 25% shaders, higher clocks and a greater bus width. But the move from an 8800GT to an 8800GTS (new varient) is very 'minor'.

The card I am waiting for is the new high end... 160 shaders, now we are talking! Of course, that isn't confirmed.

Well it will have 23.8% bigger texture fillrate (higher clockfrequencies + more units) and 23.8-60% higher pixel filrate; later being true if they haven't broken G92's structure and were holding back units. If they haven't broken G92 structure this card will have 6-8% higher texture and pixel fillrate compared to 8800 Ultra.

Thing is that this 256-bit mem bandwith weren't holding 8800 GT back.. and it won't do that with new 8800 GTS. I mean that HD3870 fares pretty well even when it's mem bandwith is 72.7% compared to HD2900XT. And this time 8800 GTS's mem bandwith is 73% of GTX's

Ps. And there's the thing that this 8800 GTS will have dual slot cooler and Nvidia's dual slot coolers have been great for 7900 and 8800 series.

 

[imported_callo]

I cant resist anymore and get 2 EVGA 8800GT OC ed. for 315.99 each + 7 fedex shipping both. I hope the EVGA Step up program last enough to upgrade both of my cards in the future.

Sorry Crysis has the total control of my credit card!!!

 

[Rusin]

Callo:
Fortunately (for me) I don't have Crysis addiction at all.. addicted to Unreal Tournament 3 which is much friendlier than Crysis in terms of system requirements

 

[bryanW1995]

yeah, I'm not addicted to crysis, either. civ4 is more my speed...maybe I should downgrade to a 6600gt...oh, wait, here's one right here...I wonder if it still works...

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: callo
I cant resist anymore and get 2 EVGA 8800GT OC ed. for 315.99 each + 7 fedex shipping both. I hope the EVGA Step up program last enough to upgrade both of my cards in the future.

Sorry Crysis has the total control of my credit card!!!

You know SLI is only gonna net you about 8-10 more fps in crysis right? Hey if you got the scratch that's cool, but value wise...

http://www.hothardware.com/art..._Takes_Flight/?page=10

 

[Cheex]

SLI and CrossFire are both HIGHLY OVERRATED!!!