New amendment to Trump’s health care bill falls short on pre-existing conditions, analysts say

[soundforbjt]

Now Trump/Repubs will get to blame the Dems in the Senate. Mission accomplished?

 

[FIVR]

YES! This is the path to victory. We shall all suffer, but the path to victory is through maximum Trump Suppoter Suffering. That means sticking it to the "white working class"... which means NO MORE OBAMACARE. It sucks, but it is how we shall succeed. By literally killing our opponents through lack of affordable healthcare.


Democrats need to unite and allow these idiots to vote in every idiotic measure they want. Give them enough rope and we can get every republican house member to hang themselves by 2020.

 

[K1052]

Interesting to see people toasting their own political graves, haha. If anything like this bill actually ends up being law the GOP is doomed.

It's one of those cases where liberals are trying to save conservatives from themselves. Blue states aren't going to be impacted by this much at all but red states will be devastated.

They're going to the WH for a televised victory lap after this too. I'm not sure that's a good idea.

 

[Jaskalas]

They are too concerned about Democratic party "ignoring reality."

I'm pretty sure that whole topic originated from progressives... to the party's Left.

 

[Commodus]

Reports on Twitter of beer being delivered for the GOP to the capital in anticipation of a celebration to mark their vote to deprive millions of Americans of affordable healthcare. This is a good look for them.

It's definitely a "let them eat cake" moment. I really don't think they understand the consequences of what they're doing, and that all this celebration is more likely to hurt than help. They'll look foolish if it passes the House but fails the Senate, and constituents may be downright furious if they lose health coverage and their rep is celebrating it.

I'm picturing many Democratic 2018 campaign ads that show the local Republican representative partying... and reminding them that he took away health care for hundreds of thousands of people in that district alone. You want to see what true voter outrage looks like? Just pass AHCA.

 

[fskimospy]

Now Trump/Repubs will get to blame the Dems in the Senate. Mission accomplished?

It does seem like almost no Republicans actually want this bill to pass, they just don't want to be the ones blamed for it not passing. Will be interesting to see what the Senate does.

 

[FIVR]

We need to get them to nuke the legislative filibuster. That is the ring of sauron to the republican golem.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Passed the house 217-213

Surprisingly two democrats voted for it.

 

[senseamp]

OK, now we wait for CBO assessment so we know how many millions of newly uninsured Republicans voted for that will be mentioned in the 2018 ads.

 

[senseamp]

Also risk pools = death pools.

 

[soundforbjt]

It does seem like almost no Republicans actually want this bill to pass, they just don't want to be the ones blamed for it not passing. Will be interesting to see what the Senate does.

They'll use the Dems blocking all their "great" legislation to keep their base riled up in the mid-terms and their base will fall for it.

 

[senseamp]

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/04/gop-congressman-i-dont-think-any-individual-has-read-health-bill.html

But Rep. Thomas Garrett of Virginia said his "staff" had read all of the parts of the bill — which he plans to vote for.

"Oh, gosh," Garrett said on MSNBC on Thursday morning when asked if he has read the entire text of the GOP's American Health Care Act.


"Let's put it this way: People in my office have read all parts of the bill."

"I don't think any individual has read the whole bill," Garrett said. "That's why we have staff."

Republicans for years have accused Democrats of ramming through Obamacare legislation, known as the Affordable Care Act, through Congress without lawmakers having a full grasp of the implications of that law.

Oh goodie, these guys are writing the ads against themselves.

 

[fskimospy]

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/04/gop-congressman-i-dont-think-any-individual-has-read-health-bill.html

Oh goodie, these guys are writing the ads against themselves.

Actually that's something that's totally true. Congressmen have better things to do with their time (in theory, haha) than sit there poring over legislation. Hell, if you aren't really experienced in doing it you're going to misunderstand it anyway.

I'm willing to bet large portions of the Republicans who voted for this bill have little to no understanding of its practical effects and THAT is something they should be mercilessly attacked on. I mean it's just straight out political malpractice. Whether they read the whole bill or not themselves is kind of immaterial though.

 

[senseamp]

Actually that's something that's totally true. Congressmen have better things to do with their time (in theory, haha) than sit there poring over legislation. Hell, if you aren't really experienced in doing it you're going to misunderstand it anyway.

I'm willing to bet large portions of the Republicans who voted for this bill have little to no understanding of its practical effects and THAT is something they should be mercilessly attacked on. I mean it's just straight out political malpractice. Whether they read the whole bill or not themselves is kind of immaterial though.

They didn't read the bill themselves, and didn't wait for the CBO to read it and tell them what is likely to happen as a result of it. That is gross political negligence.

 

[repoman0]

Are these clowns trying to kill off their voting base?

This is what the country wants, let them have it.

 

[FIVR]

This is a big victory for Democrats, whether they realize it or not. My concern is that the senate republicans and more "moderate" democrats will trip this up and save Trump Trash from the inevitable financial beat down that awaits them when obamacare is fully repealed.

Republicans should get every single stupid thing they say they want.

 

[chowderhead]

Surprisingly two democrats voted for it.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...care-bill.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=1
no House Democrat voted for this. It is all on Republicans. They own this just like Democrats own Obamacare.

 

[K1052]

Think the final count is 13 reps from districts HRC won voted yes. Partying down after taking a potentially very harmful vote going into a cycle that does not historically favor the majority is a super wise move.

 

[Pens1566]

Almost assuring a complete flip of the govt. by 2018. Thx Obama(care).

 

[Fanatical Meat]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...care-bill.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=1
no House Democrat voted for this. It is all on Republicans. They own this just like Democrats own Obamacare.

CNN said so, I guess they are fake news

 

[fskimospy]

They didn't read the bill themselves, and didn't wait for the CBO to read it and tell them what is likely to happen as a result of it. That is gross political negligence.

I agree that not waiting for the CBO to estimate the effects of legislation before passing it is a frankly baffling and frightening level of legislative incompetence and malpractice.

Them not reading the bill themselves though, not so much.

 

[K1052]

Hah...Lindsay Grahm just said he doesn't know what's in the bill. I can only presume that the Senate will write an entirely different bill, stamp it "AHCA", and pass it back to the House.

 

[senseamp]

Hah...Lindsay Grahm just said he doesn't know what's in the bill. I can only presume that the Senate will write an entirely different bill, stamp it "AHCA", and pass it back to the House.

This is what he said:
“Don’t know what it’s in it,” Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said hours before the vote. “Waiting to see if it’s a boy or a girl.”

Apparently he thinks that millions of people losing health insurance is funny.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

This is what he said:
“Don’t know what it’s in it,” Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said hours before the vote. “Waiting to see if it’s a boy or a girl.”

Apparently he thinks that millions of people losing health insurance is funny.

While I think Senator Graham is a complete ass clown it's not outlandish for him to not read a House bill until its passed.

 

[K1052]

Trump's victory lap in the Rose Garden could go down in political history as one of the worst ideas ever. I mean Issa who won his re-election by 1500 votes is front and center.