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Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Good to see American troops patting themselves on the back for not murdering innocent people, as though it's some kind of achievement. Of course I throw a little party every night before bed to celebrate another day without murdering someone.

Collateral damage is a part of war that we don't like, but it is part of war. It is not murder. If you want to make a political point, stick to the Iraq war.
Indeed. If you know history you know how horrible war can be for non-combatants. I usually agree with you GA but damn, gimme a fucking break.
 

rgwalt

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Good to see American troops patting themselves on the back for not murdering innocent people, as though it's some kind of achievement. Of course I throw a little party every night before bed to celebrate another day without murdering someone.

They're not patting themselves on the back. The media is.

OK fair enough.

Still, it's kind of silly that the news is practically worshiping these people for not killing civilians.

Try going back in time to WWII. All those night boming raids on Germany killed civilians, too. War sucks, it is part of the reality of the situation, but the situation has improved greatly in the last 60 years due to improved technology.
 

geno

Lifer
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You can see the bits of the guy flying after he blows himself up. Insane.
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Good to see American troops patting themselves on the back for not murdering innocent people, as though it's some kind of achievement. Of course I throw a little party every night before bed to celebrate another day without murdering someone.

They're not patting themselves on the back. The media is.

OK fair enough.

Still, it's kind of silly that the news is practically worshiping these people for not killing civilians.

Why do you consistently make no effort to educate yourself, yet you continue spouting off ignorant garbage? Doesn't that ever get old for you?

Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: spidey07
What the hell kind of rounds is that thing firing?

apparently some bad-ass deadly ones.

They have to be some kind of exploding round. All you hear is a little rattatatat and some explosions. Looks to be VERY effective.

Apaches are 30mm cannon rounds--cannon rounds can have a variety of stuff within them, including explosives and incendiary stuff. Very versatile weapon, the AC-130s are being outfitted with them, the 40mm Bofors is nearly 60 years old!
 

olds

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Good to see American troops patting themselves on the back for not murdering innocent people, as though it's some kind of achievement. Of course I throw a little party every night before bed to celebrate another day without murdering someone.

They're not patting themselves on the back. The media is.

OK fair enough.

Still, it's kind of silly that the news is practically worshiping these people for not killing civilians.

Are you argumentative in every thread?


That or a douche bag.
 

oogabooga

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Good to see American troops patting themselves on the back for not murdering innocent people, as though it's some kind of achievement. Of course I throw a little party every night before bed to celebrate another day without murdering someone.

They're not patting themselves on the back. The media is.

OK fair enough.

Still, it's kind of silly that the news is practically worshiping these people for not killing civilians.

Are you argumentative in every thread?


That or a douche bag.

Can't it be both?
 

Hacp

Lifer
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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: JTsyo
Originally posted by: ballmode
That's why I joined the air force

umm you know the Army flies the helicopters, right?

Specifically Apache helicopters... plus the Army soldiers on the ground played clean up and killed at least one as well.

I'm not knocking the Air Force btw.

Two if you count the guy that blew himself up
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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What the hell kind of rounds is that thing firing?


The gun on an Apache fires 30mm explosive rounds if memory serves. I think each round carries roughly half the explosive found in a normal fragmentation grenade.

How far away are those Apaches we seen in these videos? Seem pretty close to me.

Hard to say, the view through the targeting sports magnification of several magnitudes of course, and Apaches were designed to have a low noise output. Not whisper quiet of course, but a good deal better than the wup wup wup of Hueys and such. That attack was up on a mountain, so winds were likely also covering the sounds of the rotors and turbines. I'd say that Apache was within 1/2 mile most of the time, much closer on attack runs.

Good riddance, Taliban deserve no less.

 
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