New AR-15 design "SAFE Act" compliant

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werepossum

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Wait...I thought the purpose of banning those guns was to stop crime and mass shootings.
Nope. The purpose of banning those guns is to extend government control. And of course, to make proggie males feel like they have penises by proximity to government power.
 

Nebor

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Well, I mentioned that tidbit reminiscing about how loud it was with the standard Made by Mattel buttstock that came with the issue version I fired for twenty some-odd years in service. With every single shot I fired, especially in a non-hostile environment like at the range, that "Sproing!!!" sound pretty much overcame the pop coming out of the pointy end. But then I pretty much blocked out the sound of the blast and most anything else when firing anyway. IDK, maybe it's the way I cradled the rifle or something unique to my style, but I always qual'd at least 38 out of 40 every time I was dragged out to the range so it wasn't like I was doing something weird or anything. Although what was unique about my style was that I wouldn't actually hold the handguard when firing, but rest the handguard on a clenched fist and either squeeze or relax my grip to get the final elevation sight picture just right the instant before firing. Worked especially well in the prone supported position.

Apologies to OP for going OT.

I agree that you can hear the spring, but it's minor compared to the rest of the noise. When you're used to shooting it enough, you can sense (either through feel or sound) when the bolt has locked to the rear on an empty mag as well. I still don't think the stock has any substantial sound dampening properties though...
 

HumblePie

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I agree that you can hear the spring, but it's minor compared to the rest of the noise. When you're used to shooting it enough, you can sense (either through feel or sound) when the bolt has locked to the rear on an empty mag as well. I still don't think the stock has any substantial sound dampening properties though...

Umm, it looks like an AR 15 with the pistol grip angled away and there is no should stock on the buffer tube. Instead someone welded on a stock of some sort to the end of the pistol grip. Other than removing the normal stock off the buffer tube, remove the "flash hider," and changing the grip to that weird looking thing everything else is the same as any other AR15. I don't how those changes would change the sound report of a standard AR15 at all.
 

BUnit1701

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I thought a mini 14 was the same thing. No new invention

You illustrate the issue with 'assault weapons' laws almost as well as the OP. In terms of effect, they are exactly the same, both deliver a .223 slug via semi-automatic action at the same velocity. Yet a standard Mini-14 'Ranch' model with a 5 or 10 round magazine is not considered an 'assault rifle'

That being said, the 'invention' is the ability to remain on an AR-15 platform without violating silly laws against cosmetic features.
 

BlitzPuppet

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doubt it.

i think it looks nice.

also remarks like yours prove its not about safety.

Is it personally about safety to me? No. I just hate the AR-XX platform. :awe:

They're the civics/f-150s of the gun world as far as rifles go....and I'm talking about abundance and not reliability.

I have a tendency to hate on popular things...but my god, Every time I go to the range here in town the "woah bro I got like bullseye and some shit" shooters have a 99% chance of using an AR rifle.

Back on topic: Stupid gun laws are stupid. The guy holding it has a "You have got to be kidding me" face.
 

waggy

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I have a tendency to hate on popular things...but my god, Every time I go to the range here in town the "woah bro I got like bullseye and some shit" shooters have a 99% chance of using an AR rifle.

Back on topic: Stupid gun laws are stupid. The guy holding it has a "You have got to be kidding me" face.

true. EVERY time i go to the range with friends i can tell from a distance who for sure is going to have an AR15. AND that is the only gun they own.

saying that..i want one!
 

Munky

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The Californican crazies will just have to refine the ban on assault weapons until the legislation reads "must not fire gunpowder-loaded ammunition."
 

Darwin333

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Posting teh ugly:



It's now so far removed from the military version that it's going to hold no appeal for the microdicks with power fantasies.

Not really, it performs roughly the same as the non-idiotic state law versions. If thats all they can legally have I bet it sells just as well.


Its idiots like you that think that mostly cosmetic stuff makes the gun more dangerous and pass laws banning stuff that is factually the least dangerous in the category. Want to ban guns that are used to kill the most people? Ban cheap guns not uber expensive ones like the AR-15.

You would think someone that was as smart as you pretend to be would at least attempt to sort of kinda sound intelligent on the topics you opine on. Your fascination with the dick size of people you obviously dislike just further proves your lack of intelligence. Perhaps that is the heart of your issue, they won't give you any dick so you lash out at them?
 

Darwin333

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true. EVERY time i go to the range with friends i can tell from a distance who for sure is going to have an AR15. AND that is the only gun they own.

saying that..i want one!

Shrug, I own an AR-15 and it was one of the last guns I purchased. Even at the range I haven't met anyone that said their AR was all they had or even their first purchase, almost every gun owner I know owned a shotgun first.

While it is one of my most fun guns to shoot at the range I go with just my pistol the vast majority of the time. I can't imagine a situation in which I would ever "need" my AR, and I went through Katrina (shotgun is far more useful), but I have needed my pistol and shotgun before.

My M1 Garand and M1 carbine are fun as hell to shoot too but I gotta order ammo online for the carbine so its a bit of a PITA. This did just remind me that I need to buy more clips for the M1 Garand (real clips).
 

Lithium381

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Shrug, I own an AR-15 and it was one of the last guns I purchased. Even at the range I haven't met anyone that said their AR was all they had or even their first purchase, almost every gun owner I know owned a shotgun first.

While it is one of my most fun guns to shoot at the range I go with just my pistol the vast majority of the time. I can't imagine a situation in which I would ever "need" my AR, and I went through Katrina (shotgun is far more useful), but I have needed my pistol and shotgun before.

My M1 Garand and M1 carbine are fun as hell to shoot too but I gotta order ammo online for the carbine so its a bit of a PITA. This did just remind me that I need to buy more clips for the M1 Garand (real clips).

First gun was a ruger 10/22 .22lr. second gun was a 12ga :thumbsup:
 
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