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[HumblePie]

well found a site with some info.

http://screenrant.com/marvel-comics-movies-characters-carl-6766/


some interesting tidbits

Looking forward, Marvel can regain their characters but it’ll be nothing short of jumping through a ring of fire. The studio can shell out truckloads of cash to buy them back or wait for box office numbers to be so bad the studio that owns them doesn’t have any interest in following them up, ie. Ang Lee’s Hulk (thanks, Universal!). Not meeting a deadline for filming the property is the easiest way – most of the contracts have a clause that allows the rights to revert back to Marvel if principle photography doesn’t begin by a certain date after the initial release or if they make an upfront payment as if they were going to start principal photography. This, in part, is the reason we see studios releasing films in rapid succession.

Here’s a breakdown of the whole thing in list form (any characters/franchises not listed are under the rights of Marvel Studios):
20th Century Fox

Daredevil: Daredevil/Matt Murdock, Elektra (Natchios), The Kingpin/Wilson Fisk, Bullseye, Jack Murdock, Karen Page, Ben Urich
Elektra: Christine Cord/Tatoo, Typhoid Mary/Marry Alice Walker, Kirigi, Stick, Stone
Fantastic Four: Doctor Doom/Victor von Doom, Human Torch/Johnny Storm, Invisible Woman/Susan Storm, Mr. Fantastic/Dr. Reed Richards, The Thing/Ben Grimm, Nova/Frankie Raye, Alicia Masters, Willie Lumpkin
X-Men Mutants: [Agent Zero/Maverick/David North], Angel/Warren Worthington III, Arclight/Phillippa Sontag, Beast/Dr. Henry Phillip “Hank” McCoy, [Blob/Frederick J. Dukes], [Bolt/Christopher Bradley], Callisto, Colossus/Piotr Nikolaievitch Rasputin, Cyclops/Scott Summers, [Deadpool/Wade Wilson], Emma (Grace) Frost, Jean Grey/Phoenix, Juggernaut/Cain Marko, Gambit/Remy LeBeau, Glob Herman/Herman Gardner, Iceman/Bobby Drake, Jubilee/Jubilation Lee, Katherine “Kitty” Anne Pryde, [Kestrel/John Wraith], Lady Deathstrike/Yuriko Oyama, Leech, Magneto/Erik Magnus Lehnsherr, Mastermind/Jason (Wyngarde), Multiple Man/James Arthur Madrox, Mystique/Raven Darkholme, Nightcrawler/Kurt Wagner, Phat/William Robert “Billy-Bob” Reilly, Professor Charles Xavier, Psylocke/Elizabeth “Betsy” Braddock, Pyro/St. John Allerdyce, Quill/Max Jordan, Rogue/(Anna) Marie, Sabretooth/Victor Creed, Sebastian Hiram Shaw, [Silver Fox], Siryn/Theresa Rourke Cassidy, (The) Spike, Storm/Ororo Munroe, Wolverine/Logan
X-Men Non-Mutants: Drake Family (Steven, Madeline, Ronny), Grey Family (Dr. John, Elaine), Henry Peter Gyrich, Robert Edward Kelly, Dr. Moira Kinross MacTaggert, Dr. Kavita Rao, William Stryker, Bolivar Trask, Warren Worthington II

New Line Cinema

Vampires: Blade, Deacon Frost, Dracula/Vlad Tepes
Non-Vampires: Hannibal King, Abraham Whistler [UPDATE: Since the time of writing this, The Blade rights have been transferred back into Marvel's hands.]

Sony Pictures

Ghost Rider: Ghost Rider/Johnny Blaze, Blackheart/Legion, Phantom Rider/Carter Slade, Abigor, Gressil, Mephistopheles, Wallow, Barton Blaze, Roxanne Simpson
Spider-Man: Spider-Man/Peter Parker, Doctor Octopus/Otto Octavius, Green Goblin/Norman Osborn, (New) Green Goblin/Harry Osborn, [The Lizard]/Dr. Curt Connors, Sandman/Flint Marko, Venom/Eddie Brock Jr., Betty Brant, Dennis Carradine (Buglar), J. Jonah Jameson, Ben Parker, May Parker, John Jameson, Joseph “Robbie” Robertson, Gwen Stacy, Mendel Stromm, Flash Thompson

Lionsgate Entertainment

Punisher: The Punisher/Frank Castle, Jigsaw/Billy Russoti, Microchip/Linus Liberman, Joan the Mouse, Maginty, Mr. Bumpo, Spacker Dave, The Russian, Maria Elizabeth Castle, Detective Martin Soap [UPDATE: Since the time of writing this, The Punisher rights have been transferred back into Marvel's hands.]

The possibility of Marvel having complete control of their character properties, like its comic rival DC, is a matter of time.

So basically the only reason Marvel owns the Hulk anymore is cause Ang Lee sucks so bad at making The Hulk.... the rubberized version on the big screen.

Looks like Marvel screwed themselves over in the foot initially selling the movie rights away to some studios. Although in some contracts the keep "green light" ability to any movie to be produced but that is not true for them all.

On the flip side, DC owns all their movies rights to all their characters.

So if we all want Marvel to own their movies rights again, just have to basically boycott the other studios.

 

[Aikouka]

Fantastic Four 2 came out in 2007, so we may see the rights revert back if a new movie doesn't come out soon. The FAQ on the movie's IMDB page states that "There will be no part three." in regard to whether Dr. Doom will be back.

That makes sense looking at the numbers. The IMDB page lists the budget as ~$130 million and apparently the movie only made around $130 million from the box office. Since I don't think that includes marketing (I believe that the budgets are just strictly in regard to the film?), the movie probably barely scraped by or possibly lost money if you include marketing. That would be including what it would get from DVD/BR sales.

 

[Barfo]

Hulk was funnay

 

[KeithTalent]

Fantastic Four 2 came out in 2007, so we may see the rights revert back if a new movie doesn't come out soon. The FAQ on the movie's IMDB page states that "There will be no part three." in regard to whether Dr. Doom will be back.

That makes sense looking at the numbers. The IMDB page lists the budget as ~$130 million and apparently the movie only made around $130 million from the box office. Since I don't think that includes marketing (I believe that the budgets are just strictly in regard to the film?), the movie probably barely scraped by or possibly lost money if you include marketing. That would be including what it would get from DVD/BR sales.

Worldwide I'm pretty sure they both made over 300M, but that may still be a disappointment. However people seemed to hate the movies, so I find it highly unlikely a third film will be made under that same umbrella. I actually liked the Silver Surfer movie; I mean it's not great, but I enjoyed it enough. I would be happy to watch another F4 film.

KT

 

[waggy]

I would be happy with a simple Hulk vs. Superman crossover movie

I loved it when Marvel and DC did crossovers. the almagren saga? or whatever it was called was great.

 

[sactoking]

Looks like Marvel screwed themselves over in the foot initially selling the movie rights away to some studios. Although in some contracts the keep "green light" ability to any movie to be produced but that is not true for them all.

On the flip side, DC owns all their movies rights to all their characters.

So if we all want Marvel to own their movies rights again, just have to basically boycott the other studios.

IIRC when Marvel started apportioning rights, they had no intention of ever being in the movie studio business, so it wasn't really a bad decision. It was only after other studios ruined the Hulk, the Punisher, Daredevil, the Fantastic Four, et al did they realize that the money from licensing fees wasn't worth having their franchises dragged through the mud. They kept the other licenses and have been trying to bring the ones lost back in the fold.

Compare that to DC, which still "owns" all their licenses but has no cohesive strategy and manages to have horrible movies (Green Lantern, Superman Returns, pre-Bale Batman).

 

[Aikouka]

Worldwide I'm pretty sure they both made over 300M, but that may still be a disappointment. However people seemed to hate the movies, so I find it highly unlikely a third film will be made under that same umbrella. I actually liked the Silver Surfer movie; I mean it's not great, but I enjoyed it enough. I would be happy to watch another F4 film.

KT

Hmm according to the Wikipedia page, it made $289 million worldwide and the IMDB number is the US gross.

It would be interesting if Marvel decided to reboot the franchise. Who would you want to see in the roles?

 

[KeithTalent]

Hmm according to the Wikipedia page, it made $289 million worldwide and the IMDB number is the US gross.

It would be interesting if Marvel decided to reboot the franchise. Who would you want to see in the roles?

Well it was close to 300M!

Hmm, let's see:

The Thing - Tom Hardy
Reed Richards - Guy Pearce
Torch - Tanning Chatum
Invisichick - Michelle Williams

KT