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Ichinisan

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I think we should get the english films first. E.g. Prometheus, Dark Knight Rises and Skyfall.
DKR is supposedly set in the US. I assume it was filmed in the US. It's based on properties that are owned by US companies, and produced / distributed by Warner Bros. How is DKR an "English film?"

You know, it's directed by an Englishman, starring an Englishman, written by an Englishman, co-starring an Englishman, the villain is played by an Englishman a hell of a lot of it is shot in the UK...

The money might be American but the talent is English.

Edit: and two thirds of the producers are English.


I take issue with that author credit. I'm particularly pleased to hear that David S. Goyer co-developed the story. I always felt that BB was much better than TDK (contradicting general opinion)...and TDK would have been much better if Goyer worked on the story as he did in BB. Goyer was raised in Michigan.

With Nolan as the only story writer for TDK, the story was a jumbled mess and the movie went on way too long.

Anyway, you could pick a bunch of high-level Englishmen on most Hollywood movies.
 

HAL9000

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I take issue with that author credit. I'm particularly pleased to hear that David S. Goyer co-developed the story. I always felt that BB was much better than TDK (contradicting general opinion)...and TDK would have been much better if Goyer worked on the story as he did in BB. Goyer was raised in Michigan.

With Nolan as the only story writer for TDK, the story was a jumbled mess and the movie went on way too long.

Anyway, you could pick a bunch of high-level Englishmen on most Hollywood movies.

Dark Knight Rises' screenplay is written by the Nolans.

True but this is more than just a bunch, it's all the main players.
 

bearxor

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I take issue with that author credit. I'm particularly pleased to hear that David S. Goyer co-developed the story. I always felt that BB was much better than TDK (contradicting general opinion)...and TDK would have been much better if Goyer worked on the story as he did in BB. Goyer was raised in Michigan.

With Nolan as the only story writer for TDK, the story was a jumbled mess and the movie went on way too long.

Anyway, you could pick a bunch of high-level Englishmen on most Hollywood movies.

I agree with you. BB was much more coherent of a movie. I'm not saying thag TDK was bad, it was good, but it did have issues.

The Avengers was amazing, BTW. It has issues as well, but nothimg major. I went in expecting a lot and was not disappointed.
 

micrometers

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The one interesting thing about Avengers so far is that they have like 3 movie lead players in this movie. Iron Man, Thor, and Capt. America looks like the actors already were in their own feature films.

The others? Am I missing something?
 

HAL9000

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Oct 17, 2010
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Since Goyer's name was featured in the trailer for DKR, I think he had more input than he did on TDK. In the commentary for BB, it's obvious that Goyer and Nolan collaborated closely and Goyer's input had a much greater influence. I get the impression that, in TDK, Nolan just went crazy w/ the story and didn't collaborate very much.

Fair enough.

I preferred The Dark knight to Batman Begins, but that's just me...

The one interesting thing about Avengers so far is that they have like 3 movie lead players in this movie. Iron Man, Thor, and Capt. America looks like the actors already were in their own feature films.

The others? Am I missing something?

All of them except for Black Widow and Hawkeye had their own films (although they appeared in previous Marvel films too)

Iron Man
Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Captain America
 

spacejamz

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There should definitely be more. the box office outside of the states already covered the production costs and them some. After next weekend the promotion costs might be covered as well.

it will be awhile...they are doing sequels to Iron Man, Thor and Captain America which starting filming this year...
 

gorcorps

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This movie was bad.

I want my $23 ticket refunded.

First, did that come with a BJ or something? Otherwise you got ripped off.

Second, if you didn't like it I can't imagine you should have bothered in the first place. It was everything a fan of the recent Marvel movies would want. What did you expect?
 

gorcorps

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it will be awhile...they are doing sequels to Iron Man, Thor and Captain America which starting filming this year...

Are they? Ewww... I heard they were doing Iron Man 3, but series was a little more flushed out. The other movies seemed to be just a mad rush to establish the characters in order to do the Avengers movie. Maybe if they spend some time with it now that they got Avengers out of the way they'll be better.
 

bearxor

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I forget where it was but somebody had a write up about how the individual movies were suffering in order to establish The Avengers.
 

gorcorps

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I forget where it was but somebody had a write up about how the individual movies were suffering in order to establish The Avengers.

I believe it. Iron Man 1 was great. Iron Man 2 wasn't so much. Capt America was lacking, and the latest Hulk movie was "meh" as well (I just think the Hulk is a stupid character all together so my view is biased). Haven't seen the Thor movie because I didn't hear good things. The Avengers was awesome, and I want to see it again already. So, I know they're capable of making good movies with these characters... they just rushed the origin stories. Which is a bummer because the origin stories are usually my favorite
 

tokie

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First, did that come with a BJ or something? Otherwise you got ripped off.

Second, if you didn't like it I can't imagine you should have bothered in the first place. It was everything a fan of the recent Marvel movies would want. What did you expect?

It was £14 including tax. No popcorn or anything, just the ticket.

I did like the recent Marvel movies. I guess I didn't like the Iron Man movies, but I really did like Thor. I felt that individually these stories are great because you go in depth, but trying to mush a bunch of characters together in 2 hours is not good.
 

rocadelpunk

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I rarely see movies in theater/care about comic book movies, but I was as pleasantly surprised by the Avengers as I was when I saw the first Iron Man.

Awesome flick - loved how they used the hulk.
 

TheSlamma

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I rarely see movies in theater/care about comic book movies, but I was as pleasantly surprised by the Avengers as I was when I saw the first Iron Man.

Awesome flick - loved how they used the hulk.
I feel this exact same way, IM1 and this were the two best of all of these
 

gorcorps

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It was £14 including tax. No popcorn or anything, just the ticket.

I did like the recent Marvel movies. I guess I didn't like the Iron Man movies, but I really did like Thor. I felt that individually these stories are great because you go in depth, but trying to mush a bunch of characters together in 2 hours is not good.

That was my worry at first, but I thought they balanced it out well. Since the characters were already established they didn't have to waste time introducing anything. Ah well... different strokes
 

tokie

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That was my worry at first, but I thought they balanced it out well. Since the characters were already established they didn't have to waste time introducing anything. Ah well... different strokes

That's my point. There was no story or background or fleshing out people.

It was entirely these guys just shooting shit for 2 hours. There was literally zero development of the characters and zero additional information given from the comics. Maybe some people enjoy that, but I don't.
 

KeithTalent

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That's my point. There was no story or background or fleshing out people.

It was entirely these guys just shooting shit for 2 hours. There was literally zero development of the characters and zero additional information given from the comics. Maybe some people enjoy that, but I don't.

I thought Banner and Stark had some decent development; the stuff with Black Widow and Hawkeye failed miserably though. However most of the character development was done in the earlier films; this story was about the group and their development, going from a bunch of in-fighting egomaniacs to a cohesive unit. Worked for me.

KT
 

gorcorps

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I thought Banner and Stark had some decent development; the stuff with Black Widow and Hawkeye failed miserably though. However most of the character development was done in the earlier films; this story was about the group and their development, going from a bunch of in-fighting egomaniacs to a cohesive unit. Worked for me.

KT

Bingo. They did a reasonable job showing how at first the group weren't exactly cohesive, and in some cases ready to beat the shit out of each other, but throughout the film they figured out how to be a team. It's not deep, but it doesn't have to be.
 

bearxor

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That's my point. There was no story or background or fleshing out people.

It was entirely these guys just shooting shit for 2 hours. There was literally zero development of the characters and zero additional information given from the comics. Maybe some people enjoy that, but I don't.

I went in to it as a supplement to the existing franchise, not a replacement of. Stick to the individual films for each characters development, use something like this as an opportunity to try and take action to the next level.

I don't know why you were expecting anything more, I thought that the whole point of The Avengers had been made quite clear and there was even a little character development. Hulk learns he doesn't have to be alone and that he can focus his anger. Iron Man learns he can't do everything on his own and that it's not a bad thing to depend on people. Captain America comes to grips with his situation and learns how to command and organize people that aren't soldiers blindly following orders. Black Widow and Hawkeye deal with their personal demons.

Sure, a lot of this isn't the majority of the movie, but I walked out of The Avenngers have gotten basically everything I had expected going in to it.
 

Glayde

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That's my point. There was no story or background or fleshing out people.

It was entirely these guys just shooting shit for 2 hours. There was literally zero development of the characters and zero additional information given from the comics. Maybe some people enjoy that, but I don't.

If only there were several other movies that set this one up...
 

BladeVenom

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I believe it. Iron Man 1 was great. Iron Man 2 wasn't so much. Capt America was lacking, and the latest Hulk movie was "meh" as well (I just think the Hulk is a stupid character all together so my view is biased). Haven't seen the Thor movie because I didn't hear good things.

Thor was better than I thought it would be. I liked it better than Captain America.
 

bearxor

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I believe it. Iron Man 1 was great. Iron Man 2 wasn't so much. Capt America was lacking, and the latest Hulk movie was "meh" as well (I just think the Hulk is a stupid character all together so my view is biased). Haven't seen the Thor movie because I didn't hear good things. The Avengers was awesome, and I want to see it again already. So, I know they're capable of making good movies with these characters... they just rushed the origin stories. Which is a bummer because the origin stories are usually my favorite

Question. Were you super confused because you hadn't seen Thor? Thor would be the one movie I would tell people they'd have to see before The Avengers.

I liked Thor. I think the biggest problem with it was that it just kind of threw you in and expected you to pick everything up. Stupid Kenneth Branagh expecting his audience to be smart.
 
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