*NEW* BFG 6800 Ultra 512 MB @ Monarch

[imported_motodude]

How about SLI'd wives? . . .

You wouldn't need to 'game' anymore.

:roll:

maybe not

[/quote]

Yea, some of us had/have trouble with just one.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: mrrman
$899 u gotta be outta your mind

I'll second that. $900 for a graphics card is a freaking joke!

 

[BurntCpu]

For that price it better install its own drivers and when my games
don't work; connect to the web and find a solution.

 

[kVaSSaSSiN]

Damn! over 1800 for SLI!!! TOOOOOO expensive.

 

[QSnexus]

Too rich for my blood.

 

[apoppin]

this card will probably be ~$350 by late Fall.
:roll:

the r520/g70 will eat it alive

 

[Garlic]

The 6800 ultra cant even take advantage of the 512mb and have playable framerates since it dosnt have enough memory bandwith.

512mb coupled with the 6800 ultra GPU is a marketing gimmik IMO.

Its just like when ATI had 256mb on the 9800 XT. 128mb and 256mb made no diff.....

 

[essasin]

This will depreciate faster than a car. But if money was no object....I still wouldnt buy this card.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Garlic
The 6800 ultra cant even take advantage of the 512mb and have playable framerates since it dosnt have enough memory bandwith.

512mb coupled with the 6800 ultra GPU is a marketing gimmik IMO.

Its just like when ATI had 256mb on the 9800 XT. 128mb and 256mb made no diff.....

First of all, 256MB of vRAM DOES make a difference over the 128MB Radeon 9800Pro . . . +10% peformance increase with the 9800xt . . . Painkiller's expansion pak requires 256MB of vRAM to run with everything enabled - my 9800xt handles it with ease whereas the 128MB version falls short.

Certainly SLI'd 6800U's WILL take full advantage of the 512MB of memory . . . even a single 6800u-512MB will finally run D3 at highest setting.

And probably "worth it" for around-the-corner next-gen games. . . . . especially when prices drop to ~$350 this Fall.

 

[Garlic]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Garlic
The 6800 ultra cant even take advantage of the 512mb and have playable framerates since it dosnt have enough memory bandwith.

512mb coupled with the 6800 ultra GPU is a marketing gimmik IMO.

Its just like when ATI had 256mb on the 9800 XT. 128mb and 256mb made no diff.....

First of all, 256MB of vRAM DOES make a difference over the 128MB Radeon 9800Pro . . . +10% peformance increase with the 9800xt . . . Painkiller's expansion pak requires 256MB of vRAM to run with everything enabled - my 9800xt handles it with ease whereas the 128MB version falls short.

Certainly SLI'd 6800U's WILL take full advantage of the 512MB of memory . . . even a single 6800u-512MB will finally run D3 at highest setting.

And probably "worth it" for around-the-corner next-gen games. . . . . especially when prices drop to ~$350 this Fall.

The Radeon 9800 XT does 10% better than the Radeon 9800 pro because the GPU is clocked higher and not becuase of the amount of ram. Looks like you learn new things every day. You should google it and read up on it.....

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Garlic

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Garlic
The 6800 ultra cant even take advantage of the 512mb and have playable framerates since it dosnt have enough memory bandwith.

512mb coupled with the 6800 ultra GPU is a marketing gimmik IMO.

Its just like when ATI had 256mb on the 9800 XT. 128mb and 256mb made no diff.....

First of all, 256MB of vRAM DOES make a difference over the 128MB Radeon 9800Pro . . . +10% peformance increase with the 9800xt . . . Painkiller's expansion pak requires 256MB of vRAM to run with everything enabled - my 9800xt handles it with ease whereas the 128MB version falls short.

Certainly SLI'd 6800U's WILL take full advantage of the 512MB of memory . . . even a single 6800u-512MB will finally run D3 at highest setting.

And probably "worth it" for around-the-corner next-gen games. . . . . especially when prices drop to ~$350 this Fall.

The Radeon 9800 XT does 10% better than the Radeon 9800 pro because the GPU is clocked higher and not becuase of the amount of ram. Looks like you learn new things every day. You should google it and read up on it.....

Maybe you should.

 

[Garlic]

Dude just get over it. You're wrong....

Specs of the 9800XT codenamed R360. It comes clocked at a core speed of 412 MHz, this is compared to the 380 MHz on the 9800Pro. The memory is clocked at 730 MHz, which is compared to 680 MHz on the 9800Pro.

Like I said....Im right....

 

[Leon]

Just pre-ordered 10. I duct taped 5 nForce Ultra SLI mobos together for some ultimate gaming experience. Will post pictures when I get em...

Leon

 

[beany323]

/em gets chair for fight nite!!

(in the maximum pc they had 2 512gb vcards running, dont recall anything about why it isnt better then.. )

i'll just shut up and learn ....

 

[blckgrffn]

No, the 256 of memory can make a difference depending on the game. Call of duty has an extra detail setting that also requires a 256 meg card, and many high end games (HL2, Doom3, and now painkiller evidently) really need 256 megs of frame buffer to really run well. I assume that real 512 meg games are only around the corner...

Nat

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Garlic
Dude just get over it. You're wrong....

Specs of the 9800XT codenamed R360. It comes clocked at a core speed of 412 MHz, this is compared to the 380 MHz on the 9800Pro. The memory is clocked at 730 MHz, which is compared to 680 MHz on the 9800Pro.

Like I said....Im right....

Here, i'll repeat what i said, and you try to pick it apart:

First of all, 256MB of vRAM DOES make a difference over the 128MB Radeon 9800Pro . . . +10% peformance increase with the 9800xt . . . Painkiller's expansion pak requires 256MB of vRAM to run with everything enabled - my 9800xt handles it with ease whereas the 128MB version falls short

The higher clocked "xt' is able to "take advantage" of it's 256MB of vRAM.

Simply adding 128MB of vRAM to a 128MB RadeonPro leads to a 1-3% performance increase in [older] games without changing the core or memory speeds. There is a larger performance increase with some newer games - PK's BoOH requires the extra 128MB to turn all it's details "on".

:roll:

 

[feelingshorter]

gezzes, soo expensive. That thing = cost of my new rig

 

[uOpt]

I can't believe they are out of stock. People just bought them out.

 

[ponyo]

I bought them all. I will now sell them for 1k each.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: motodude

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: saechaka
can someone give rollo a request to buy 2 of these and bench'em

hahahahahaha, rollo where are you?

Hmmm a better question would be "Where is my wife?" if I buy this SLI set, and the answer would be "Talking to our lawyer".

With this SLI set who needs a wife.

Much as I love my SLI sets, my wife has some "whitesheet features" that I require for some games.

 

[imported_stranger]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: motodude

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: saechaka
can someone give rollo a request to buy 2 of these and bench'em

hahahahahaha, rollo where are you?

Hmmm a better question would be "Where is my wife?" if I buy this SLI set, and the answer would be "Talking to our lawyer".

With this SLI set who needs a wife.

Much as I love my SLI sets, my wife has some "whitesheet features" that I require for some games.

That one i like a lot

 

[Lithan]

Yes, if anyone buys an SLI set of these, their wife would have an Iron-clad case to declare them legally incompetent and take control of their assets in full.

 

[user1234]

anyone that buy SLI set of 6800NU should already be declared incompetent

 

[user1234]

Good article in Beyond3D about SLI, here's a quote about performance in splinter cell:

"In this instance the 6800 standard in SLI mode isn't able to outperform a single 6600 GT in any resolution. Seeing as the SLI performance increases are fairly slim in this instance neither the 6600 GT or 6800 standard in SLI mode get close to the 6800 GT and Ultra in single board mode - in fact there is a fairly large gap between the higher and lower end boards."

"Overall the performance of the standard 6800 was disappointing as a single board, with performances that were behind the 6600 GT despite its similar fill-rate; we would have also expected to see greater gains under FSAA conditions on this board thanks to its 256-bit bus, but they didn't manifest themselves. The performance of the 6800 carries on in its SLI configuration with its performance rarely getting close to a single 6800 GT and not always posting particularly great gains over a single 6600 GT."

Now ask youself why oh why on earth would anyone buy 2 6800NU pci-e boards for $700 (note: $300 this is the cheapest price currently for a sinlge 6800NU pci-e, it used to be $50 more a few weeks ago) just to get performance which is significantly lower than a single X800XL for $250, and without the need for SLI with its expensive chipsets, motherboards, power supplies and cooling gear ?

tRollo is one such person so I suggest you point the finger to him and ask about the rationale that led him to build such a lackluster non-performing ultra expensive monster ? there is no doubt SLI is expensive, and if done right it at least gives unmatched performance, but 6800NU SLI is just the worst example of what can be done with SLI, and how poor value it could be, delivering middling performance for quadruple the cost.

Sure, everyone is free to spend their money however they choose, but the choices one makes reflect on the quality of thier decision making, and in this case we'd have to seriously question the competence of someone making such poor decisions. I understand that enthusiasm for new hardware (even if it's really unwarranted) can cloud judgement and interfere with rational buying decision, but people reading advice from this guy need to take this into consideration, as his recomendations are based on getting stuff to play around with, and not neccessarily getting the best hardware within a limited budget.

 

[Lithan]

Huh? I thought that 6600gt's were performing about as good on average as a single 6800gt. That's what I've read on forums anyway. Not seen the benches myself.