New Build - $1000 Limit - Input greatly appreciated.

[bighedstev]

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.
This is my work PC. I have Outlook, IE, Firefox (20+ tabs), Excel, and Word running at all times. That is pretty much all it is used for. No gaming but I still want the option if I choose to.

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread
$1000 price limit give or take $50.

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.
US - Newegg.

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc.
Prefer Intel but will consider AMD if it's worth it.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.
Already have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, OS and DVDRW.

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.
I have searched other threads and am looking for specific info on my build.

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.
Default speeds.

8. What resolution YOU plan on gaming with.
Max resolution for my monitor 1680x1050.

9. WHEN do you plan to build it?
Now.

Here's what I've come up with:

Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I5750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115215

GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128412

Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1339
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148262

Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5" 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167023

XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150447

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129021

OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341018

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 92mm Fluid Dynamic CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186134

Total with shipping: $1,019.61

Any suggestions of changes or comments are greatly appreciated. Looking for the best bang for my buck.

OP, your thread got a bit wrecked here due to the trolling. If you'd like a new thread, please feel free to contact me.

-ViRGE

 

[mfenn]

Looks really good to me. :thumbsup:

The only thing I would change is the PSU. I'm not really big on el-cheapo high-wattage modular PSU's because modular cabling is expensive and forces the ODM to cheap out in other places. Check out the Corsair 400CX. You've got a 95W TDP CPU and a 108W TDP GPU, so a 400W should be plenty.

 

[Sp12]

Only specific issues I see is that the ram is overpriced, and you may want to get more than 4GB. These Ripjaws are only 3$ more expensive before the 10% off code, and are a step up in terms of speed, which may actually have real-word importance with this many concurrent apps.

An AMD hexacore has worse perclock performance, but would be 2 cores more than an Intel quad. Same price, depends on workload. I don't think you can wrong with either platform.

Only other concern is that the PSU looks a bit overkill in terms of wattage and tad suspect in quality from the Newegg review spread. I would grab a smaller 400-500 watt range PSU.

Edit: >< Ninja'd on the PSU.

 

[MentalIlness]

I agree with the memory. Get the G.Skill. That is what is going in my new rig in sig. Much better/faster memory. And has spreaders for $3.00 more.

Although, currently...I have a OCZ GameXtreme PSU 850 and it couldn't work any better than it has the last two years.

I received it after my OCZ Modstream quit on me, which was a 450. I sent them the 450 and they sent me an 850.

 

[bighedstev]

Thanks for the input guys. I've changed the PSU to



CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005

and went with the recommended ram.

One more question on the hard drive. Should I stick with the Intel or switch to the new OCZ Agility 2 60GB Internal SSD
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...ClKgaWSp.eaFOg

Any opinions?

 

[ModestGamer]

amd phenom 2 955 oc it a bit and kill the intel.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103808


mb to go with it.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138193

I think the Intel DDR speeds are BS anyways. To much bus noise to say for sure if they are accurate.

 

[raclimja]

Processor:
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103851


Motherboard:
ASRock 870 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157198


Memory:
G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) 1.35V 7-8-7-24-2N
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231321


SSd 2x in RAID 0
OCZ Agility 2 OCZSSD2-2AGTE60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227542

OCZ Agility 2 OCZSSD2-2AGTE60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227542


Video Card:
ZOTAC ZT-20109-10P GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500152


Power Supply:
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005


Case:
Xigmatek MIDGARD-W Black 0.7mm SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811815001



TOTAL: $1007.94


OPTIONAL(FOR CASE LIGHT)

Cathode Light:
LOGISYS Computer LDKMTRD1 Single Red Meteor Light Kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16800888052
for just $8.99


i replaced the core i7 because you say you will multitask a lot so i picked a amd six core processor

i also remove the cpu cooler because the stock cpu cooler is good enough and you mentioned that you will not overclock your cpu

i changed the memory to Gskill because it cost just a little more and it is faster and consumes less power (DDR3 1600 7-8-7-24-2N 1.35V)

i changed the ssd because 2x ocz agility 2 is MORE FASTER and has more storage than Intel x25m 80GB and it just cost a little more

you mentioned that you will only be playing at 1680x1050 so i changed the video card to NVIDIA GTS 250 1GB because 5770 is overkill, also i picked NVIDIA because of reliability, low power consumption, good performance and good software/driver support and doesn't GSOD(Grey Screen of Death)

i also changed the case because xigmatek midgaurd is a lot cheaper, all black inside and outside, has dust filters, has tool less design, lots of optional fan intake, has side window so you can view your the inside of your computer and you can put a red cathode light it will look beautiful and match the theme of the case

 

[Sp12]

Memory:
G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) 1.35V 7-8-7-24-2N
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231321


SSd 2x in RAID 0
OCZ Agility 2 OCZSSD2-2AGTE60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227542

OCZ Agility 2 OCZSSD2-2AGTE60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227542


Video Card:
ZOTAC ZT-20109-10P GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500152

i replaced the core i7 because you say you will multitask a lot so i picked a amd six core processor

i also remove the cpu cooler because the stock cpu cooler is good enough and you mentioned that you will not overclock your cpu

i changed the memory to Gskill because it cost just a little more and it is faster and consumes less power (DDR3 1600 7-8-7-24-2N 1.35V)

i changed the ssd because 2x ocz agility 2 is MORE FASTER and has more storage than Intel x25m 80GB and it just cost a little more

you mentioned that you will only be playing at 1680x1050 so i changed the video card to NVIDIA GTS 250 1GB because 5770 is overkill, also i picked NVIDIA because of reliability, low power consumption, good performance and good software/driver support and doesn't GSOD(Grey Screen of Death)

Nice find on the lower-voltage memory, but as of yet SSD-raid arrays are not really worth it. You're unable to pass trim commands to them, so you either have to overprovision them (lose a lot of space), secure erase and reinstall regurally, or deal with performance degradation.

A 5770 isn't overkill for 1680*1050, and I have to disagree with any claims of drivers/reliability. It was just a month or so ago that Nvidia released a driverset that killed cards. The 5770, though not an eco edition, has very low power draw. ATI releases driver updates more often than Nvidia.

 

[mvbighead]

This might not be a bad place to start:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.432230

 

[ModestGamer]

Nice find on the lower-voltage memory, but as of yet SSD-raid arrays are not really worth it. You're unable to pass trim commands to them, so you either have to overprovision them (lose a lot of space), secure erase and reinstall regurally, or deal with performance degradation.

A 5770 isn't overkill for 1680*1050, and I have to disagree with any claims of drivers/reliability. It was just a month or so ago that Nvidia released a driverset that killed cards. The 5770, though not an eco edition, has very low power draw. ATI releases driver updates more often than Nvidia.

I have a 5770. uses alot less power then the nvidia it replaced. a gt240. Nvidia is still 50nm tech. the ATI 5770 is 40nm tech. Lower tempature and less power.

 

[Fallen Kell]

I would ditch the solid state hard drive in favor of a traditional mechanical disk, especially for a work environment with critical data. The only solid state hard drives I would trust for any kind of data would be the Intel Enterprise line, in which case you are talking more than the cost of your entire build for the single hard drive.

 

[bighedstev]

I would ditch the solid state hard drive in favor of a traditional mechanical disk, especially for a work environment with critical data. The only solid state hard drives I would trust for any kind of data would be the Intel Enterprise line, in which case you are talking more than the cost of your entire build for the single hard drive.

Any critical data is saved on a network drive and backed up nightly. The only thing on this drive will be the OS and programs.

 

[mfenn]

Thanks for the input guys. I've changed the PSU to



CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005

and went with the recommended ram.

One more question on the hard drive. Should I stick with the Intel or switch to the new OCZ Agility 2 60GB Internal SSD
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...ClKgaWSp.eaFOg

Any opinions?

The Sandforces are great performers, and now that OCZ has upped the storage capacity to 60GB, they are about the same cost per gig as Intel. If you can handle the 20GB less space, I would go for it. I would buy from Newegg though because they're cheaper and have a MIR.

 

[raclimja]

but as of yet SSD-raid arrays are not really worth it. You're unable to pass trim commands to them, so you either have to overprovision them (lose a lot of space), secure erase and reinstall regurally, or deal with performance degradation.

i have to disagree on you with this,

anandtech made an article showing the performance impact of space area on sandforce controllers on a FULL drive and based on the graphs, there is so little difference (27% at max) so i wont be worried for performance degradation overtime because of the lack of TRIM in RAID

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3690/...dforce-more-capacity-at-no-performance-loss/2



also looking at the performance gain on RAID 0 using 2x vertex 2 on AMD's SB850,

i wont be worry on 27% performance loss overtime

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/f...850-Meets-Sandforce-RAID-0-x-2&highlight=RAID

A 5770 isn't overkill for 1680*1050,

gts 250 is good enough for even the most demanding games, since the OP will be playing at 1680*1050

i choosed gts 250 over 5770 because of reliability, software support, games support and drivers support over 5770 little performance advantage

and I have to disagree with any claims of drivers/reliability. It was just a month or so ago that Nvidia released a driverset that killed cards. The 5770, though not an eco edition, has very low power draw. ATI releases driver updates more often than Nvidia.

see for yourself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsyrOHX_7a4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnxNSi8YTZ0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9X37ZfwtSU

also you may want to read this threads
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/282318-33-thinking-buying-5850-widespread-gsod-issues
http://www.overclock.net/ati-drivers-overclocking-software/711878-gsod-still-occuring.html

 

[mfenn]

gts 250 is good enough for even the most demanding games, since the OP will be playing at 1680*1050

Ummm, wut?

Your own charts prove you wrong. Why pay the same money for a slower part?

i choosed gts 250 over 5770 because of reliability, software support, games support and drivers support over 5770 little performance advantage

see for yourself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsyrOHX_7a4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnxNSi8YTZ0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9X37ZfwtSU

also you may want to read this threads
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/282318-33-thinking-buying-5850-widespread-gsod-issues
http://www.overclock.net/ati-drivers-overclocking-software/711878-gsod-still-occuring.html

FACT: Both AMD and NVIDIA release crap drivers from time to time.

 

[raclimja]

Ummm, wut?

Your own charts prove you wrong. Why pay the same money for a slower part?

same price? lulz

FACT
CHEAPEST GTS 250 1GB FOR
$124.99 - $30 Mail in Rebate = $94.99

Palit NE3TS25EFHD02 GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-062-_-Product


CHEAPEST 5770 1GB FOR
$154.99 - $15 Mail in Rebate = $139.99
POWERCOLOR PCS+ AX5770 1GBD5-PPG Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 CrossFireX Support Video Card OC at 875MHz, Dirt2 coupon included
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-327-_-Product


is that at the same price or someone needs to take math lessons?

FACT: Both AMD and NVIDIA release crap drivers from time to time.

lulz, is it me or someone is running out of words?

FACT:
the main focus of the OP's build is multitasking NOT HARDCORE GAMING(I have Outlook, IE, Firefox (20+ tabs), Excel, and Word running at all times. That is pretty much all it is used for. No gaming but I still want the option if I choose to.)
why care for extra FPS if your computer is PRONE TO BUGS, CRASHES and all that crap

conclusion: PERFORMANCE < RELIABILITY, SOFTWARE, GAMES, DRIVER SUPPORT . PERIOD

 

[Sp12]

same price? lulz

The 5770 has regular deals for ~125. I think the price/performance and performance/watt are better for the 5770. The GTS 250 is last gen hardware with GDDR3, whereas the 5770 has higher performance that will give it decent longevity at 1680.

lulz, is it me or someone is running out of words?

A: Do not use inflammatory language in the General Hardware forums.
B: Nvidia has released drivers that caused CARDS TO DIE. ATI GSODs are pretty conclusively linked to bad cards, not drivers. I have never had a GSOD, but know someone who has. He sent his card in for an RMA. I also know someone who had a card killed by an Nvidia driver, he didn't get an RMA.

FACT:
the main focus of the OP's build is multitasking NOT HARDCORE GAMING(I have Outlook, IE, Firefox (20+ tabs), Excel, and Word running at all times. That is pretty much all it is used for. No gaming but I still want the option if I choose to.)
why care for extra FPS if your computer is PRONE TO BUGS, CRASHES and all that crap

conclusion: PERFORMANCE < RELIABILITY, SOFTWARE, GAMES, DRIVER SUPPORT . PERIOD

While I'm not going to argue over whether the OP wants stability (duh), I disagree heartily that Nvidia driver support is any better. Also, you have performance listed as < games, which doesn't make sense as Nvidia doesn't mean more games.

Fact: ATI has monthly driver releases. Nvidia doesn't (though they often try to keep a monthly release cycle). I don't get how Nvidia cards have better software, and frankly I don't think any argument over reliability is going to fly. Both companies have had badspots, but I don't think it's fair to clout a decision by ignoring the other side's.

As for the SSD, I think 27&#37; is a lot. Admittedly the sequential speeds seem to look very impressive, but look at the random 4k read/write 23/87 before any performance degradation. A single Intel G2 has 36/64 and almost no performance degradation with TRIM. After 27% degradation you're looking at 17/63 for the raid array. The Intel drives have better random 4K operations, which are the most important in making an SSD feel fast.

 

[raclimja]

The 5770 has regular deals for ~125. I think the price/performance and performance/watt are better for the 5770. The GTS 250 is last gen hardware with GDDR3, whereas the 5770 has higher performance that will give it decent longevity at 1680.

higher performance = yes
is it needed for the build = NO

also where can i find a 5770 that costs $125? lulz

as i said before the main focus of the build is multitasking not RAW GAMING PERFORMANCE

the driver that killed nvidia cards has long been identified and removed from the driver download page

but ati's GSOD is still present even on notebooks
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/488683-g73-cat-10-5-gsod-debug-thread.html

you yourself said that gsod is associated to bad cards so why recommend a card based on "luck"?

reliability should be top priority since he will multitask a lot and a "crash" would be a big disaster if it happens

While I'm not going to argue over whether the OP wants stability (duh), I disagree heartily that Nvidia driver support is any better.

have you tried running old games on ati card? and many useful apps like adobe photoshop, Badaboom, PowerDVD 9, Nero Move it, kaspersky

if so i guess you have no idea what im talking about

Also, you have performance listed as < games, which doesn't make sense as Nvidia doesn't mean more games.

lulz whose making sense now? i guess you only use tetris as a benchmark
for gpu

Fact: ATI has monthly driver releases. Nvidia doesn't (though they often try to keep a monthly release cycle).

which is still no where near close to Forceware Drivers

As for the SSD, I think 27% is a lot. Admittedly the sequential speeds seem to look very impressive, but look at the random 4k read/write 23/87 before any performance degradation. A single Intel G2 has 36/64 and almost no performance degradation with TRIM. After 27% degradation you're looking at 17/63 for the raid array. The Intel drives have better random 4K operations, which are the most important in making an SSD feel fast.

have you seen this graphs before?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3667/oczs-agility-2-reviewed-the-first-sf1200-with-mp-firmware/5


imagine if that beast is on RAID 0 :awe:

ps: im a nice guy, im just proving my point

if i hurt your feelings, i apologize

 

[ASTOCADDIDS]

Any other things I can try while I wait for a speaker case?

 

[Sp12]

higher performance = yes
is it needed for the build = NO

also where can i find a 5770 that costs $125? lulz

Regular deals for ~125

the driver that killed nvidia cards has long been identified and removed from the driver download page

but ati's GSOD is still present even on notebooks
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/488683-g73-cat-10-5-gsod-debug-thread.html

But the point is that Nvidia has had bad spots too. It's not fair to blindly say: if you get an ATI card you'll crash!! also, I quote from that thread:

However, 800/1100 worked beautifully. Played Dragon Age for 2.5 hrs. Not one hiccup, screen glitch, or even a driver reset. And rebooted a couple of times to ensure it wasn't a fluke. Still plays beautifully, even with Creative re-enabled. (Sorry Kalim

)

reliability should be top priority since he will multitask a lot and a "crash" would be a big disaster if it happens

have you tried running old games on ati card? and many useful apps like adobe photoshop, Badaboom, PowerDVD 9, Nero Move it, kaspersky

if so i guess you have no idea what im talking about

....I have. GSODs are basically traced to bad Vram chips. If you have bad chips, then you can either overclock them or RMA the card.

lulz whose making sense now? i guess you only use tetris as a benchmark
for gpu

A: that's not even a good attempt at a straw man.
B: I still don't see how Nvidia = more games.
C. A 5770 would allow him to maintain playability at 1680 for longer than on a GTS 250. It also uses less power.

which is still no where near close to Forceware Drivers

I don't follow. ATI has monthly releases that improve performance.

have you seen this graphs before


http://www.anandtech.com/show/3667/oczs-agility-2-reviewed-the-first-sf1200-with-mp-firmware/5


imagine if that beast is on RAID 0 :awe:

Yes and have you seen this one of what happens when you raid them (your graph from earlier)?

ps: im a nice guy, im just proving my point

if i hurt your feelings, i apologize

A: Do not troll the general hardware forums.
B: I don't think you've made a good case for any of the points brought up....

 

[ModestGamer]

A note on flash chips is that over time they harden and slow down on the read write times.something you may not see in 4-6 months of use but after a year or so of heavy use. Me personall. I am wiating for entirely new tech to come around and FLASH is not it.

 

[mfenn]

same price? lulz

FACT
CHEAPEST GTS 250 1GB FOR
$124.99 - $30 Mail in Rebate = $94.99

Palit NE3TS25EFHD02 GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-062-_-Product


CHEAPEST 5770 1GB FOR
$154.99 - $15 Mail in Rebate = $139.99
POWERCOLOR PCS+ AX5770 1GBD5-PPG Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 CrossFireX Support Video Card OC at 875MHz, Dirt2 coupon included
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-327-_-Product


is that at the same price or someone needs to take math lessons?

Wow, spot pricing from one vendor, great way to determine the average cost of a card.

lulz, is it me or someone is running out of words?

FACT:
the main focus of the OP's build is multitasking NOT HARDCORE GAMING(I have Outlook, IE, Firefox (20+ tabs), Excel, and Word running at all times. That is pretty much all it is used for. No gaming but I still want the option if I choose to.)
why care for extra FPS if your computer is PRONE TO BUGS, CRASHES and all that crap

conclusion: PERFORMANCE < RELIABILITY, SOFTWARE, GAMES, DRIVER SUPPORT . PERIOD

Stop trolling please.

EDIT: I see that Sp12 has already addressed this.

EDIT2: I get that you like your new build, that doesn't mean to have to insist that everyone else get the exact same thing.

 

[raclimja]

But the point is that Nvidia has had bad spots too. It's not fair to blindly say: if you get an ATI card you'll crash!! also, I quote from that thread:

....I have. GSODs are basically traced to bad Vram chips. If you have bad chips, then you can either overclock them or RMA the card.

i made a statement and show evidences, where is yours?

do you even know what GSOD means? lulz

A: that's not even a good attempt at a straw man.
B: I still don't see how Nvidia = more games.
C. A 5770 would allow him to maintain playability at 1680 for longer than on a GTS 250. It also uses less power.

LMAO someone needs to learn English
i did not say NVIDIA = more games lulz

you fail at comprehension

nvidia has better driver support in the past and in the present, if you play games like battle realms, gta iv, nfs shift, sacred 2, pcsx2 and many more

those games tends to run crap or buggy or not as good as nvidia over the ati

applications like adobe, kaspersky, nero, badaboom and many useful apps is accelerated by nvidia's gpgpu

I don't follow. ATI has monthly releases that improve performance.

wakeup! face the reality lulz

Yes and have you seen this one of what happens when you raid them (your graph from earlier)?

is it me or 4k write performance is DOUBLED? lulz

A: Do not troll the general hardware forums.
B: I don't think you've made a good case for any of the points brought up....

lulz, just because you cant win an arrangement

you will trow random words like "DONT TROLL"
just makes me lol

Wow, spot pricing from one vendor, great way to determine the average cost of a card.

spot pricing? lulz

I CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND A BRAND NEW CHEAPER GTS 250 1GB AND 5770 1GB AND COMPARE THE PRICES

IF YOU FAIL, STOP TROLLING NONSENSE PLEASE

I get that you like your new build, that doesn't mean to have to insist that everyone else get the exact same thing.

lulz who's bragging now?

the ops needs is multitasking not gaming

reliability is #1 priority

he clearly states that he will not game but he still want the option to game if he wants to

i made a conscious decision to choose a cheaper more reliable card rather faster(UNNEEDED PERFORMANCE)

i provided evidences that support my statements and not just TROW RANDOM WORDS LIKE "STOP TROLLING PLEASE"

be more professional please, if you cant win an arguement, don't cry im not your mama to babysit you

 

[Sp12]

i made a statement and show evidences, where is yours?

do you even know what GSOD means? lulz

LMAO someone needs to learn English
i did not say NVIDIA = more games lulz

you fail at comprehension

nvidia has better driver support in the past and in the present, if you play games like battle realms, gta iv, nfs shift, sacred 2, pcsx2 and many more

those games tends to run crap or buggy or not as good as nvidia over the ati

applications like adobe, kaspersky, nero, badaboom and many useful apps is accelerated by nvidia's gpgpu

wakeup! face the reality lulz

is it me or 4k write performance is DOUBLED? lulz

lulz, just because you cant win an arrangement

you will trow random words like "DONT TROLL"
just makes me lol

spot pricing? lulz

I CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND A BRAND NEW CHEAPER GTS 250 1GB AND 5770 1GB AND COMPARE THE PRICES

IF YOU FAIL, STOP TROLLING NONSENSE PLEASE

lulz who's bragging now?

the ops needs is multitasking not gaming

reliability is #1 priority

he clearly states that he will not game but would he still want the option to game if he wants to

i made a conscious decision to choose a cheaper more reliable card rather faster(UNNEEDED PERFORMANCE)

i provided evidences that support my statements and not just TROW RANDOM WORDS LIKE "STOP TROLLING PLEASE"

be more professional please, if you cant win an arguement, don't cry im not your mama to babysit you

At this point I'm certain you're a troll. I've provided counter arguments above and am not wasting my time repeating them.

The only thing I was unable to find a direct response to in a previous post is: that YES the 4K write performance is about doubled, but look at what happens to the read, it drops to 23, less than half of one drive. That still leaves the point about performance degradation due to TRIM.

Also, CUDA apps are nice, but none of them are listed in his apps, and you can GPGPU on ATI cards as well.

Also, I thought I'd price check just for fun:

http://www.google.com/products/cata..._nKo2UlwexzdSUAg&sa=title&ved=0CA0Q8wIwATgA#p Though I did find a few cheaper ones, they were downclocked significantly for power savings.

http://www.google.com/products?q=ati+radeon+5770&aq=f

 

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At this point I'm certain you're a troll. I've provided counter arguments above and am not wasting my time repeating them.

The only thing I was unable to find a direct response to in a previous post is: that YES the 4K write performance is about doubled, but look at what happens to the read, it drops to 23, less than half of one drive. That still leaves the point about performance degradation due to TRIM.

which doesn't mean any crap on realworld,

look at this real world test using ocz agility 2 50gb in raid 0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEW26q7rvNQ

Also, CUDA apps are nice, but none of them are listed in his apps, and you can GPGPU on ATI cards as well.

also can you name a gpgpu app that run on ati besides AVIVO video converter, cyberlink expresso, cyberlink powerdirector, folding@home

in which all of them produce garbage quality and considerably low performance on folding@home

Also, I thought I'd price check just for fun:

http://www.google.com/products/cata..._nKo2UlwexzdSUAg&sa=title&ved=0CA0Q8wIwATgA#p Though I did find a few cheaper ones, they were downclocked significantly for power savings.

http://www.google.com/products?q=ati+radeon+5770&aq=f

cheaper ones? lulz

go take math lessons

your cheapest find on GTS 250 1GB is $144.99 vs my $94.99

your cheapest find on 5770 1gb is $163.99 vs my $139.99

grow up kid, you failed epically on your argument

Grow up kid, trolling is an epic failure on the AT Forums

-ViRGE