New Build - Incoming!

jamester

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Hey everybody - here's the skinny.

Four days ago, I bought a Dell Dimension E521 from Wal*Mart. It's a decent computer - AMD X2 4000+, 2GB RAM, 250GB HD, etc etc etc.

So I bought a Radeon X1950PRO from Newegg, and was heartbroken when I went to install it. (Yes, I know, I bought a Dell, I'm an idiot, etc.) No PCI-E power coming from the PSU, and no IDE power available for conversion. SATA power only.

So instead of fooling around with getting a new hacked PSU, or getting a different card and taking a restocking loss on the X1950PRO, I'm going to do things the other way around: I'm going to build my own damn PC and take this thing back to Wal*Mart from whence it came! (Cue cheers.)

SO: It boils down to this. Thanks to my... additional purchases, I have already purchased (and/or currently have) the following to-be-reused parts:

KEYBOARD - Saitek Eclipse II
MOUSE - Logitech G3
MONITOR (OLD, but useable, 1280x1024 LCD)
VIDEO CARD - Radeon X1950PRO PCI-E
SPEAKERS (SuperCrappy, but I'm OK with that)

1. I'll be using the computer for a little bit of everything, but a lot of gaming. EQ2 is my mainstay - my wife's PC (also an E521) plays relatively fine with a X1650XT. I don't want to duplicate that, however.

2. When I take this beast back to WM, I'll get roughly $900 for it. That's my budget. It's fairly strict, as I've already spent a good deal on some of the aforementioned goodies (read KB, Mouse, Vid Card.)

3. I'll be buying these right here in the US of A. I prefer Newegg or ZZF, but am open to considering thinking about other reliable and reputable retailers. I prefer not to shop fly-by-night companies, even if their prices are too good to be true.

4. I'm not a fanboy - I prefer bang for the buck - but with that said, it almost seems like Core 2 Duo is THE way to go these days, and I don't mind that at all.

5. I will be reusing a good number of my parts, listed above.

6. My wife can vouch - I've done a substantial amount of research. I will feel an amazing void once this computer is finally built and I have to go back to a day-to-day existence.

7. I do not plan on overclocking. That said, I'm not terribly opposed to it either. I don't have a strong feeling either way, but if the system is acceptably fast at default speeds, it'll likely stay at default speeds. I'm not much of a risk taker.

NOW - with that out of the way, here is what I'm planning on purchasing from Newegg:

CASE: Antec Solo - $90 - I realize cases are a very personal choice, and I think the P180B is a nice compromise between what I want and what I need. I looked at the cheaper cases, but just don't feel like I'm getting as much quality.

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-520HX ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 520W Power Supply - $130
Again, I'm pretty set on this one. I feel 520W will be way more than enough to do anything I want to do, and the modular cables will help keep the case clean.

MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - $100
I think this is a good choice - it's basically the GA-P35-DS3R with 4 less SATA ports for $30 cheaper. I do not plan on adding more than 1 DVD drive and 2 HD's, so I think it's still a great fit.

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz - $195
The most expensive part of this portion of the build. I think 2.33GHz will be plenty of speed, offer a fair overclock if I ever choose to go down that road, and be a great all-around performer.

RAM: CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) - $85
Newegg has this for $85 - $10 more than my prior choice - but it also has a $30 MIR, bringing final cost down to $55. For 2GB. Of Ram. Timings are reportedly 5-5-5-12, if that matters. It'll leave two slots open so I can upgrade later if I would like.

HD: Western Digital Caviar SE16 320GB 7200RPM SATA3.0Gb/s - $75
Another great deal, I think. 320GB should be sufficient for my first drive. I could even partition it if I chose, but for $80, I don't see how I could go wrong.

DVD-RW: SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S203B - $32
It's an OEM drive, but I'm OK with that.

Vista: 64-Bit Home Premium for System Builders Single Pack DVD - $112
I'm set on this one.

ODDS AND ENDS:
MITSUMI 13-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader: $9.99

So far, my total is running $897.24 including shipping.

Any comments? Am I doing it wrong? Will anything blatantly NOT work with something else? I have it all in my cart, and I'm ready to pull the trigger.

Thanks for any input!

EDIT: Apparently, it's Newegg-Changing-Prices-Day - the E6550 is now 199, so I did replace it with the E2160. Also upped the price on the RAM by $5, hee.

EDIT: Replaced CPU with E6750. Replaced HD with WD Caviar. Added AS5 and Card Reader. Replaced 32-bit Vista with 64-bit Vista.

EDIT: Replaced G.Skill memory with Corsair. Removed AS5 - will be using stock HSF. Replaced P180B with Solo.
 

Nurn

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I'm beginning to sound like a broken record on the forums today, but I suggest you save $100 and swap that processor out for a Pentium Dual Core E2160. This little beast is a real sleeper, and overclocks to 3.2 - 3.4 GHz with little or no voltage additions. It can give you E6850 level performance with minimal fuss, even for an overclocking newbie.
 

jamester

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Well poop - the E6550 just went from 175 to 199 at Newegg. Apparently they see stuff in my cart and either sell out of it or raise the prices.
 

LightningRider

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I'd spring for a little more than the E2160 since you WON'T be OC'ing. The E6750 should fit into your budget nicely.

I'd also get the Western Digital 320GB instead of the Seagate 7200.10. WD performs better and runs cooler and quieter.

I'd also get Vista 64 Home Premium unless you have some reason not to get 64 bit OS. Valid reasons not to get one would be that there is some program that you need that doesn't work yet on Vista 64. Chances are if you are a regular home user and want to game and use the computer for entertainment, this doesn't apply to you and you should purchase the 64bit version of Vista. Drivers are just almost as abundant as the 32bit and are on the same performance level video card wise as far as I know. If you need some enterprise level app that only works on 32bit software then I guess you have a reason to stay 32bit. Otherwise, 64 is the way to go IMO. Many here agree with that as well.

Everything else looks fine.

 

jamester

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Looks like I can get a 16MB cache 320GB WD Caviar SE16 SATA3.0 drive for $75 - $5 cheaper than my original plan.

I added an internal card reader (because plugging one in is a pain) for 9.99, arctic silver 5 for 5.99, swapped Vista to 64-bit for the same price, and changed the processor to the E6750 - which is now somehow cheaper than the E6550 I had originally planned on. I'll update my original post with this.
 

jamester

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Gonna sleep on it overnight and see what happens in the morn'. It's not like Newegg will ship today anyways.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: jamester
Gonna sleep on it overnight and see what happens in the morn'. It's not like Newegg will ship today anyways.

They won't ship tomorrow or the next day either
 

jamester

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Replaced G.Skill memory with Corsair XMS2 - better timings and a MIR of $30.
Removed Arctic Silver 5 to stay within budget - will be using stock HSF as I will very likely NOT be overclocking soonish. AS5 and an aftermarket HSF can be bought down the road.

As it turns out, I'm very glad I posted this thread - it's got me to think about a lot of the parts I had originally picked. If any lurkers out there are planning a first build (or a tenth build, or a 100th build), I advise doing this, if nothing else than to get your own thoughts straight. It's been a very good exercise.

I replaced the P180B ($130) with the Antec Solo ($90), bringing me well within budget again. Tally now, including shipping, is $854.24.

I'll probably pull the trigger in the next few hours, even though yes, Newegg will NOT ship until Monday at the earliest. (On the bright side, they shouldn't go out of stock between now and shipping either!)
 

LightningRider

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Personally I enjoy building my own machines more, and it does end up being cheaper.

Anyways enjoy your build, seems like a solid machine.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: LightningRider
and it does end up being cheaper.

Actually, I would say that is not an advantage anymore. There are others, better warranty, support, overclocking, and just getting exactly what you want. Those would be my reasons for building a system. But as far as cost, if you know what you are doing, it is cheaper to buy a prebuilt, and upgrade it as needed.
 

LightningRider

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Well I agree with you in that those are advantages too.

I guess it can be cheaper depending on what models you buy perhaps. Cause I know my friend wanted to buy a gaming rig with a quad core and it cost him about $1400 CDN. On the dell.ca website, to build a machine with almost identical specs cost about $2900.

Anyways I think the more high end you go the more expensive it becomes but either way I still think building your own is a much better way to go.
 
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