New car maker may enter the market

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GagHalfrunt

Lifer
Apr 19, 2001
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You forgot one:

*If you hold the steering wheel in the wrong spot it immediately careens off the road as it just lost contact with the "network".

*The above issue will be rectified by purchasing an ugly rubber bumper for your car at grossly inflated prices and/or being told "you're doing it wrong."

And another:

"The car will not go around corners. This will be hailed as an improvement as it makes the car easier to operate"
 

KeithP

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The only way to really do that, with out buying them outright, is to hire engineers who have experience designing EV's with the same requirements of the Model S. Not too many of those people exist.

There is another way as well, wait for Tesla's bankruptcy liquidation. Their talent will be looking for jobs and their facilities would be dirt cheap.

-KeithP
 

z1ggy

Lifer
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There is another way as well, wait for Tesla's bankruptcy liquidation. Their talent will be looking for jobs and their facilities would be dirt cheap.

-KeithP

If Tesla goes bankrupt -with a person at the helm who actually is extremely smart and has been responsible for a bunch of awesome products- suddenly be successful (or a smart buy) for another company with zero of those things?

If an EV company backed with a boatload of money fails, I don't think Apple is going to be the ones to pick up all the pieces.
 
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DrPizza

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*Non fillable fuel tank, once you use up the fuel you have to buy a new one, wouldn't matter anyway because it runs on a new fuel that only apple make and they don't sell it seperately from the car.

I sort of disagree with that one - if it's a gasoline car, you'll have to go to an Apple station, because the pumps at the other stations won't fit. If you manage to get an adapter from China that works, then the car will detect that it's an unauthorized manufacturer and refuse to run until you drain and refill the tank.

Though, it's more likely to be an electric car. You'll have to buy a special port to plug it in at your house. Next year, when you upgrade to the new car, because that's what Apple people do, you'll discover that you have to buy a new port. Because, even though the port accomplishes the exact same thing, it's a different size.

It'll be the most awesome vehicle ever for driving in the snow. But, you won't be allowed to drive it in the rain because Apple won't be satisfied with how the wipers work, so will exclude that feature.


It'll be priced so that most people use a "rent to own" option, which includes the fuel cost. After the car is paid off, you'll continue to have to make the same monthly payment for the fuel. (Oh, wait, that's Verizon.)
 

Fingolfin269

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I'm excited about this. One of my biggest gripes with the current automotive market is the lack of attention to user experience within the vehicle. The Apple car concept could fail mightily but maybe they will make some changes to the way we interact with our vehicles that can be horizontally deployed across all or most auto manufacturers and ultimately benefit all of us. If not Apple then hopefully someone.

Companies like Apple, Tesla, etc. are the ones most likely to do this in my opinion. The old guard make incremental improvements gen to gen. It typically takes a new comer to change the game entirely.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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I'm excited about this. One of my biggest gripes with the current automotive market is the lack of attention to user experience within the vehicle. The Apple car concept could fail mightily but maybe they will make some changes to the way we interact with our vehicles that can be horizontally deployed across all or most auto manufacturers and ultimately benefit all of us. If not Apple then hopefully someone.

Companies like Apple, Tesla, etc. are the ones most likely to do this in my opinion. The old guard make incremental improvements gen to gen. It typically takes a new comer to change the game entirely.

I agree with you there, and if there is any truth to this, I hope that Apple can at least shake up the market a bit. I love technology, which is why it frustrates me that while most cars operate using the same bus (CAN bus), the features are set in stone. For example, my Ford has MyFord Touch, and Ford recently announced a new version of it with some great new features. However... they won't be releasing it on older cars (even in a cut down version), so if I want to upgrade, I have to buy a new car. Apart from not wanting to create a niche product, there's no reason why they cannot create upgraded hardware for older vehicles, and for anyone thinking that I'm being extreme, my car's only a 2013. It's not like I'm trying to upgrade a 2003!

As for what you were talking about, I agree on the user experience. I've found that Infotainment systems are usually too cumbersome to use, and it often creates potentially dangerous situations where people start diverting their attention too much. Now, you're not wrong if you say that's user error (to divert your attention), but the interface itself could be made more efficient and effective. The biggest thing that we need to do is work with voice recognition. It actually works pretty well in my Ford; it's usually just the weird, obscure things that have problems. The only issue that I have is that while I can control the temperature with voice, I cannot control things like the defroster. My physical defroster controls are capacitive touch, which means I don't get much in the way of tactile feedback and you can't do it with normal gloves. I should be able to say "Rear defroster on", and have it work.
 

Puppies04

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I sort of disagree with that one - if it's a gasoline car, you'll have to go to an Apple station, because the pumps at the other stations won't fit. If you manage to get an adapter from China that works, then the car will detect that it's an unauthorized manufacturer and refuse to run until you drain and refill the tank.

Though, it's more likely to be an electric car. You'll have to buy a special port to plug it in at your house. Next year, when you upgrade to the new car, because that's what Apple people do, you'll discover that you have to buy a new port. Because, even though the port accomplishes the exact same thing, it's a different size.

It'll be the most awesome vehicle ever for driving in the snow. But, you won't be allowed to drive it in the rain because Apple won't be satisfied with how the wipers work, so will exclude that feature.


It'll be priced so that most people use a "rent to own" option, which includes the fuel cost. After the car is paid off, you'll continue to have to make the same monthly payment for the fuel. (Oh, wait, that's Verizon.)


Ok fair enough, how about...

*you can't buy any parts for the car and it will only work with the engine it came with so when the brakes wear our you have to buy a new one.
 

BurnItDwn

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The apple mobile will use mapple, mapple is apple mapping systems software for apple maps. They will drive into lakes for shortcuts. Also, there are no oil changes, once the engine dies you have to buy a new one, just like any other apple device where they wont let you replace the battery or memory card, because it would hurt their bottom line if you were able to buy parts or replacements from other vendors. no, I will stick to cars not founded by a company like apple.
 

DesiPower

Lifer
Nov 22, 2008
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iCar, hmm, interesting, are going to sell their own gas? build a new network of gas stations?
 

Red Squirrel

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May 24, 2003
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The iDrive. They'll make a patent for a device that enables one or more person to sit and be moved to a different location via directional control apparatus (steering wheel).

Then sue all the car companies.

Sometimes the radio will cut out, but it's just because you're holding the steering wheel wrong.

People would flock over no matter what and buy it because it's Apple. They'll forget that there even is other car companies.
 

phucheneh

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Car only has one button to lock, unlock, start, stop, accelerate, brake, steer left, steer right, ect.

And you never know which function you're going to get when you press it.
 

OBLAMA2009

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man apple has such a strong brand they be crazy not to go for every high profit market out there--cars, watches, tv's, services (search, banking, internet...) etc...
 
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Apple you say? It will be severely overpriced. I would think sense would look at Tesla and wonder why they should even try.
 

Red Squirrel

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I could see Apple do similar cars to Tesla, so they can sue them. Though Tesla has lot of patents too, not sure if it's possible to steal a patent, repatent it and then sue the original. If it is, Apple would be the company to do it. Tesla's patents are public domain now, which is awesome, but I wonder if it could work against them.
 

Fern

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I wouldn't be surprised. Apple, Google, these companies have huge amounts of cash and need to invest.

I've heard such rumors, but cannot remember details. But I would look for these two to branch out into different industries. I've seen cool stuff they've developed in their R&D dept, stuff that has zero relationship to their current businesses.

Fern
 

rh71

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Apple making a car? That'd definitely cut dealers out of the picture for sure since people would buy it no questions asked. When are they ever going to name something iSheep...?
 

Brian Stirling

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Here's how I see it going...


Apple enter the market with a few novel ideas and garners a bunch of praise for, well, being Apple.

Next, Apple files a shit ton of lawsuits against the other car makers for stealing there ideas -- and wins in court because ... Apple...

Price of all cars goes up as car makers are forced to pay royalties to Apple.


Brian
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
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There is another way as well, wait for Tesla's bankruptcy liquidation. Their talent will be looking for jobs and their facilities would be dirt cheap.

You know, my first reaction is that Apple making a car doesn't make any sense, but they have been pretty stagnant lately, do have a lot of money available, and then there's this:

http://cleantechnica.com/2015/02/09...ring-250000-signing-bonuses-60-pay-increases/

Tesla & Apple Escalating Poaching War — Apple Now Offering $250,000 Signing Bonuses + 60% Pay Increases

I actually see Tesla as the Apple of the car world:

1. Slick offerings
2. Expensive products
3. Very well-made
4. Lots of thought in the design
5. Super reliable

Basically a premium product niche. If I could afford a $130k fully-loaded AWD Tesla, I'd definitely jump all over that! But it's like spending $10k on a fully-loaded Mac Pro...it just makes more sense for me to build a Hackintosh
 

Kaido

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Feb 14, 2004
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Here's how I see it going...


Apple enter the market with a few novel ideas and garners a bunch of praise for, well, being Apple.

Next, Apple files a shit ton of lawsuits against the other car makers for stealing there ideas -- and wins in court because ... Apple...

Price of all cars goes up as car makers are forced to pay royalties to Apple.

Can't wait for Samsung to come along & copy Apple's car with more features for half the price :awe:
 
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