I tried to test drive the new rav4, but noone has one that wasnt sold that I can test drive. Its a very hot car, so expect to pay full msrp for it. I test drove the Ford Escape, didnt like the brake..so anyway, I ended up getting a Jeep grand cherokee v6 with the F package, upgraded tires for 26500, msrp is around 31k, there is a 2500 rebate, and they gave me $10k (the ford dealer would only give me $8500 for it, and another jeep dealer think my trade-in is only worth $6k! ) for my 2001 toyota solara that I can probably sell for around $12k on my own, but since my state has a messed up lemon law, I am glad to loss that 2k to not sell it on my own. good luck! I got the grand cherokee last monday on president's day. there are lots of deals out there for SUV, I think I might've paid too much for my grand cherokee, oh well....