New Castlevania from Kojima

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AmberClad

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Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
order of ecclesia was awesome and I'm probably the only one but I like it better than SOTN
I don't know if I agree (SotN had an amazing musical score, for example), but I think I might understand why.

SotN got ridiculously easy pretty quickly due to Alucard becoming way overpowered. Both OoE and CotM were noticeably harder, and beating the bosses (especially Giant Enemy Crab) ended up feeling more satisfying than spamming Soul Steal or Crissaegrim in SotN.
 

Thraxen

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Originally posted by: R Nilla
According to Joystiq, this game was announced by Konami last year--as Lords of Shadow--it just wasn't Castlevania yet.

That explains why I found a teaser for this from October 2008 on YouTube.

This makes me skeptical of the game. Yeah, the teaser looks good, but the game didn't even start out as Castlevania. They basically means the Castlevania name was tacked-on for marketing purposes. So that plus the history of 3D Castlevania games leaves me with more than a little doubt. Even if the game turns out good I'm worried it won't actually feel like Castlevania. I'd love the game to turn out great though.
 

mxyzptlk

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Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: AmberClad
Looks pretty slick...but I'm kind of cautiously pessimistic considering all of the 3D Castlevania games up to and including CV: Judgement have been kind of a flop. Which reminds me, I still need to finish CV:LoI and CV:CoD (bought them a long time ago just to round out my collection).

Lament of Innocence got decent reviews and Curse of Darkness did ok.

I didn't hate LoI, but I always thought it could've been a much better game if it were on better hardware. There were just too many of the exact same corridor and the combo set was too limited/repetitive. Basically, the game just need to be bigger and more varied and I think next gen systems can do that much better than the ps2 could..

I'm playing the DS game, Portrait of Ruin now and it's pretty badass and every bit as good as SoTN was. I'd much rather be playing it on my TV than my gf's handheld though.

Originally posted by: AmberClad
Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
order of ecclesia was awesome and I'm probably the only one but I like it better than SOTN
I don't know if I agree (SotN had an amazing musical score, for example), but I think I might understand why.

SotN got ridiculously easy pretty quickly due to Alucard becoming way overpowered. Both OoE and CotM were noticeably harder, and beating the bosses (especially Giant Enemy Crab) ended up feeling more satisfying than spamming Soul Steal or Crissaegrim in SotN.

Yea, you're right.. Crissaegrim totally breaks the game. There's no point in playing anymore, nothing can touch you.

I do still remember my first time through the game when it was genuinely scary. Infact, playing PoR is bringing that feeling back because I'm dying a lot.. creeping around an unfamiliar castle with 3 hp, no potions, hoping to find a save spot every single time I pass to a new screen is a feeling I haven't had since the 90's :laugh:
 

Thraxen

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Crissaegrim does essentially break SotN, but realistically it's a somewhat rare drop and most people aren't going to get it unless they are specifically hunting for it. Back when SotN was new I beat the game without it the first couple of times because I didn't how powerful it was. It wasn't until I read some FAQs on the game that I specifically hunted it down. I'm sure that was true for most people the first time. In other words, unless you just get very lucky, you basically have to choose to break the game.
 

mc866

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Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
order of ecclesia was awesome and I'm probably the only one but I like it better than SOTN

It's pretty tough to beat SOTN, OOE was good but I didn't think it was that good.

That being said I have high hopes for this game it looks great, albeit what looks to be a GOW rip off, I just hope they do a good job with it and it doesn't disappoint.


Originally posted by: Thraxen
Crissaegrim does essentially break SotN, but realistically it's a somewhat rare drop and most people aren't going to get it unless they are specifically hunting for it. Back when SotN was new I beat the game without it the first couple of times because I didn't how powerful it was. It wasn't until I read some FAQs on the game that I specifically hunted it down. I'm sure that was true for most people the first time. In other words, unless you just get very lucky, you basically have to choose to break the game.


I agree, it wasn't like the cris was a weapon that you found when going through the castle, it was a fairly rare drop. I still remember the first time I played SOTN, I didn't even get to the inverted castle and was like hold on something isn't right here, so I checked out some guides and realized the game was twice as long as I had thought it was.
 

zinfamous

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is this the same fucker that makes those shitty MGS games?

screw this, now he wants to make shitty Castlevania games
 

RaiderJ

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Not excited, all the previous 3D games have been garbage. But, if they're cloning God of War, that's a good thing.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: gorcorps
Wow, looks more like God of War or Devil May Cry than Castlevania which IMO is a good thing. The 2D games are great, but the series really does need an advancement in technology to stay fresh and appealing to people other than those that are fans already.

yeah, I was thinking that GoW became what Castlevania should have been all this time. If this has that type of play (which it does appear to), combined with the explorability and variety of SotN, then this should be great.

as much as I love GoW, there isn't much variety within the game b/c there never is a reason to use anything other than your primary weapon 98% of the time. Castlevania would need that kind of system, including rare drops and hidden abilities and such to keep pace.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Here is the announcement of Castlevania from yesterday. They're calling it a rebirth of the series. "A fresh and radical reimagining that is not constrained by what has happened before."

translation: we just thought we'd rip off God of War. :laugh:
 

AmberClad

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Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
I do still remember my first time through the game when it was genuinely scary. Infact, playing PoR is bringing that feeling back because I'm dying a lot.. creeping around an unfamiliar castle with 3 hp, no potions, hoping to find a save spot every single time I pass to a new screen is a feeling I haven't had since the 90's :laugh:
That pretty much describes me when I'm going through the Clock Tower section of the various 2D CV games. Evil flying medusas and clockwork gears, all conspiring to get you impaled on the spikes :frown:.

The Clock Towers in CotM and DoS, plus the timed obstacle course in OoE were particularly evil iirc.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: AmberClad
Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
I do still remember my first time through the game when it was genuinely scary. Infact, playing PoR is bringing that feeling back because I'm dying a lot.. creeping around an unfamiliar castle with 3 hp, no potions, hoping to find a save spot every single time I pass to a new screen is a feeling I haven't had since the 90's :laugh:
That pretty much describes me when I'm going through the Clock Tower section of the various 2D CV games. Evil flying medusas and clockwork gears, all conspiring to get you impaled on the spikes :frown:.

The Clock Towers in CotM and DoS, plus the timed obstacle course in OoE were particularly evil iirc.

fuck those medusa heads.

Of course, if this one has no medusa heads, then it is not Castlevania.
 

bl4ckfl4g

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Originally posted by: AmberClad
Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
order of ecclesia was awesome and I'm probably the only one but I like it better than SOTN
I don't know if I agree (SotN had an amazing musical score, for example), but I think I might understand why.

SotN got ridiculously easy pretty quickly due to Alucard becoming way overpowered. Both OoE and CotM were noticeably harder, and beating the bosses (especially Giant Enemy Crab) ended up feeling more satisfying than spamming Soul Steal or Crissaegrim in SotN.

Yeah that is exactly why. I loved the challenge and it was really satisfying to finally beat a couple of those bosses.
 

RyanPaulShaffer

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Originally posted by: AmberClad
Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
order of ecclesia was awesome and I'm probably the only one but I like it better than SOTN
I don't know if I agree (SotN had an amazing musical score, for example), but I think I might understand why.

SotN got ridiculously easy pretty quickly due to Alucard becoming way overpowered. Both OoE and CotM were noticeably harder, and beating the bosses (especially Giant Enemy Crab) ended up feeling more satisfying than spamming Soul Steal or Crissaegrim in SotN.

While OoE is definitely more difficult, once you got the Nova Skeleton's Light Beam attack (forget the weird Latin name), the game became quite easy. Hard Mode Level 1 Cap was a joke...I think I died once or twice. I even ran the bonus dungeons without much difficulty.
 

RaiderJ

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GoW for the gameplay, Castlevania for the atmosphere, and Shadow of the Colossus for the boss battles would be awesome!
 

sourceninja

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After playing shadow complex, I want more games that are like that. I think that would be the perfect setup for another castlevaina. This game looks good however.
 

Sadaiyappan

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Would be cool if they made it like diablo 3 and allowed you to swing around on giant monsters like that for diablo third person point of view.
 

Rage187

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Originally posted by: sourceninja
After playing shadow complex, I want more games that are like that. I think that would be the perfect setup for another castlevaina. This game looks good however.



I agree. I much rather enjoy a 2D/3D hybrid like SC than a fully 3D game of the same nature.
 

daveybrat

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Dante's Inferno and this Castlevania are my 2 must buy purchases this year.

I'm a huge Castlevania fan and have been craving a 3D version since i last played the PS2 version back in the day.

The trailer for this Castlevania looks sick!
 
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