New Chinese chips pose threat to Intel

[aswedc]

The Inquirer

REVOLUTIONARY SECRET RESEARCH carried out at Shanghai Jiatong University could consign current microprocessors from Intel and AMD to the scrapheap.

Using 128-bit technology, the architecture, codenamed 'Long March', could deliver performance of up to 100GHz in as little as 18 months, say researchers. Built on a new 90 nm (nanometer) process, the Long March chips feature 1Gb level 2 cache and prototypes have been demonstrated running at 5GHz with no special cooling.

Pin compatible with the Pentium 4, the chips will pose a significant threat to Intel's dominance, say US analysts.

The only fly in the ointment, says sources close to the University, is that offshore fabs - based in Taiwan - are currently the only plants capable of manufacturing the processors that use Gallium Arsenide (GaAs) instead of silicon substrates.

University spokespersons today refused to confirm or deny the plans, saying it was not their policy to comment on future products and they would not be drawn on the political implications of relying on Taiwanese manufacturers to build the parts. µ

 

[AtomicDude512]

Originally posted by: aswedc
The Inquirer

REVOLUTIONARY SECRET RESEARCH carried out at Shanghai Jiatong University could consign current microprocessors from Intel and AMD to the scrapheap.

Using 128-bit technology, the architecture, codenamed 'Long March', could deliver performance of up to 100GHz in as little as 18 months, say researchers. Built on a new 90 nm (nanometer) process, the Long March chips feature 1Gb level 2 cache and prototypes have been demonstrated running at 5GHz with no special cooling.

Pin compatible with the Pentium 4, the chips will pose a significant threat to Intel's dominance, say US analysts.

The only fly in the ointment, says sources close to the University, is that offshore fabs - based in Taiwan - are currently the only plants capable of manufacturing the processors that use Gallium Arsenide (GaAs) instead of silicon substrates.

University spokespersons today refused to confirm or deny the plans, saying it was not their policy to comment on future products and they would not be drawn on the political implications of relying on Taiwanese manufacturers to build the parts. µ

How much cooling would that thing need?

Plus they would also need to make a 128-Bit OS for it.

 

[Vegito]

5GHz with no special cooling

Originally posted by: AtomicDude512

Originally posted by: aswedc
The Inquirer

REVOLUTIONARY SECRET RESEARCH carried out at Shanghai Jiatong University could consign current microprocessors from Intel and AMD to the scrapheap.

Using 128-bit technology, the architecture, codenamed 'Long March', could deliver performance of up to 100GHz in as little as 18 months, say researchers. Built on a new 90 nm (nanometer) process, the Long March chips feature 1Gb level 2 cache and prototypes have been demonstrated running at 5GHz with no special cooling.

Pin compatible with the Pentium 4, the chips will pose a significant threat to Intel's dominance, say US analysts.

The only fly in the ointment, says sources close to the University, is that offshore fabs - based in Taiwan - are currently the only plants capable of manufacturing the processors that use Gallium Arsenide (GaAs) instead of silicon substrates.

University spokespersons today refused to confirm or deny the plans, saying it was not their policy to comment on future products and they would not be drawn on the political implications of relying on Taiwanese manufacturers to build the parts. µ

How much cooling would that thing need?

Plus they would also need to make a 128-Bit OS for it.

 

[aswedc]

Plus they would also need to make a 128-Bit OS for it.

Hammer and its variations don't need a special 64-bit OS.

 

[Budman]

Pin compatible with the Pentium 4, the chips will pose a significant threat to Intel's dominance, say US analysts

Sounds interesting.

 

[AtomicDude512]

Originally posted by: aswedc

Plus they would also need to make a 128-Bit OS for it.

Hammer and its variations don't need a special 64-bit OS.

Yes but they benefit from it.

 

[RyuRobD]

Like any new tech or rumor, I'll believe it when i see it. As for right now, this is vapourware to me

 

[Lonyo]

It must be true! It's from that most reputabe source in the world, "The Inquirer"

 

[SickBeast]

seeing as amd struggles to keep up with amd, i don't see the chinese chips doing very well unless they are custom chips that are designed to perform very specific tasks. don't expect much of anything as far as desktop cpus go, imho.

 

[FFactory0x]

yea. These things prolly cost a fortune plus a special mobo would be needed. Special Ram. Everything.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

gadolinium oxide on a gallium arsenide semiconductor

Currently, most wireless applications use gallium arsenide metal-semiconductor field-effect transistors (MESFETs), which lack a gate oxide, but which are necessary because higher frequencies are attainable with gallium arsenide compared to silicon. (That's because electrons can travel five to six times faster in gallium arsenide-based transistors.)

Getting a complicated single-crystal gate oxide to grow on gallium arsenide was totally unexpected because scientists did not think it was possible. But the Bell Labs scientists made an attempt and succeeded. Then, when the two crystals came together perfectly, it was an even bigger surprise. "You would not expect two vastly different materials to have strong, complete bonds and a defect-free interface," said Bell Labs materials scientist Minghwei Hong. "We now are investigating why it happens."

That's 3yrs ago so it reasonable to assume that the tech is commercially viable now and it's not impossible that given it's superiority to silicon that the the claim is true and could explain why no special cooling is required to run@5ghz.

 

[Rectalfier]

I heard something about some super Russian processor way back too, never heard of it since.

 

[Wolfsraider]

Pin compatible with the Pentium 4, the chips will pose a significant threat to Intel's dominance, say US analysts


bring it on

 

[SickBeast]

Pin compatible with the Pentium 4, the chips will pose a significant threat to Intel's dominance, say US analysts

Are you serious? Where did you get this info from?

I would put muchos bling-bling on the line for this one....I don't see anyone other than AMD, IBM, or Motorola coming close to Intel anytime soon.

 

[abovewood]

A successful chip is one that brings in big profit.
I don't think this will be a threat to Intel at all.

 

[DX2Player]

If they did put out 100GHz processor would I still need a GPU to play games

 

[Rainsford]

Hmm, well this sounds cool, but it seems kind of unlikely. Companies rarely make such huge leaps forward in technology, and while the Chinese are catching up to the US, they don't exactly appear to be blowing past us like this as far as high tech goes. In any case, even if it was an American University that said this, I'd take it with a grain of salt. Intel (among others) has been building CPUs for decades and if they couldn't do this, I don't have much faith in some university making a viable product out of it. Prototype, maybe, but I've seen and heard of some cools things prototyped that are many years away from being real products. I'll believe this when I see it.

 

[Wingznut]

1gb of L2 cache, eh? So, the die would be about 1000 times the size of a Prescott?

EDIT: I guess it wouldn't be "1000 times"... more like 600-700 times the size. I'm not even sure you could fit 1gb of cache on a single wafer.

 

[Wolfsraider]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Pin compatible with the Pentium 4, the chips will pose a significant threat to Intel's dominance, say US analysts

Are you serious? Where did you get this info from?

I would put muchos bling-bling on the line for this one....I don't see anyone other than AMD, IBM, or Motorola coming close to Intel anytime soon.

Using 128-bit technology, the architecture, codenamed 'Long March', could deliver performance of up to 100GHz in as little as 18 months, say researchers. Built on a new 90 nm (nanometer) process, the Long March chips feature 1Gb level 2 cache and prototypes have been demonstrated running at 5GHz with no special cooling.

Pin compatible with the Pentium 4, the chips will pose a significant threat to Intel's dominance, say US analysts.

The only fly in the ointment, says sources close to the University, is that offshore fabs - based in Taiwan - are currently the only plants capable of manufacturing the processors that use Gallium Arsenide (GaAs) instead of silicon substrates.

University spokespersons today refused to confirm or deny the plans, saying it was not their policy to comment on future products and they would not be drawn on the political implications of relying on Taiwanese manufacturers to build the parts. µ

 

[optoman]

Send them an ebomb and see how well the chip works then.

 

[jbond04]

Originally posted by: Wingznut
1gb of L2 cache, eh? So, the die would be about 1000 times the size of a Prescott?

EDIT: I guess it wouldn't be "1000 times"... more like 600-700 times the size. I'm not even sure you could fit 1gb of cache on a single wafer.

Yeah, I was looking at that number, too. This is a joke...

 

[blackinches]

is this an early april fool's joke?

 

[microAmp]

Originally posted by: Wingznut
1gb of L2 cache, eh? So, the die would be about 1000 times the size of a Prescott?

EDIT: I guess it wouldn't be "1000 times"... more like 600-700 times the size. I'm not even sure you could fit 1gb of cache on a single wafer.

What about a 24 inch or 36 inch wafer?

n/m figured it out... somewhat...

 

[Actaeon]

Originally posted by: motoamd

Originally posted by: Wingznut
1gb of L2 cache, eh? So, the die would be about 1000 times the size of a Prescott?

EDIT: I guess it wouldn't be "1000 times"... more like 600-700 times the size. I'm not even sure you could fit 1gb of cache on a single wafer.

What about a 24 inch or 36 inch wafer?

n/m figured it out... somewhat...

Maybe they mean 1mb?

 

[microAmp]

Well, I started to think of 1 Gb and people were thinking 1 GB, while we are used to P4/Athlon KB, but then about 1/8 of that would be about 256 MB..... still huge.