new CPU + MOBO

[priscoo]

Hi, i'm upgrading my pc and i need new cpu and mobo with it. i'm using pc for : gaming (1280x720, medium details is enough), internet.
my current graphic card : hd 5670 512MB gddr5

guess i will take A10 5800k or i3 3220 ( maybe i5 2380P, but i will have to lower the price for mobo)
What do you think?

 

[ValkyrAssassin]

For gaming, the i3 3220 is faster, but your graphics card is more the limiting factor, and the A10 5800K should still be ok. It all depends on what price you can get for each. I can see both those processors the same price myself, so it would come down to motherboard cost if you were looking to save every penny.

 

[SocketF]

If you already have a GPU, then save some money and buy an AthlonII 750K.

You save around ~40 Euros / ~50 USD by this, if you sell your old 5670 for a good price,too, you might be able to afford a HD7750.

 

[Dark Shroud]

If you're not going to get an i5 then go with the A10.

 

[SocketF]

The i3 3220 is faster yes, but totally locked. The 750K + OC is the better option, especially for that cheap price.

 

[Kenmitch]

Currently Amazon has the Intel Core i3-3225 for $137 free shipping and you get a $25 gift card for free....Guess you could wait for the gift card then order a motherboard or other needed item to save some bucks!

 

[frozentundra123456]

If you already have a GPU, then save some money and buy an AthlonII 750K.

You save around ~40 Euros / ~50 USD by this, if you sell your old 5670 for a good price,too, you might be able to afford a HD7750.

That is an interesting processor. Even without the GPU though it is still a 100w tdp, which is kind of high for very similar performance to an i3. But for a desktop for gaming, it makes more sense to me than an APU.


Actually given the low reqiurements of the OP, another option would be a pentium G xxx, I am not sure what the number is, the sandy bridge one though. He will need to upgrade to at least a 7750 graphics card for sure.

 

[frozentundra123456]

The i3 3220 is faster yes, but totally locked. The 750K + OC is the better option, especially for that cheap price.

I was not aware of the 750K. It looks pretty nice for a desktop, but I question whether you would want or need to get into overclocking for 720p gaming at medium details.

 

[priscoo]

If ill buy an i3 will it last for another 4 years? and I'm gonna upgrade gpu to hd 7770 after christmas... my current cpu is getting to cpu usage while playing game to 95%, will it be the same with i3? Thanks


* or maybe if i crossfire my current gpu and A10 5800k i wont have to buy a hd 7770 ?

 

[lehtv]

I'd get an Ivy i3 or even a Pentium and a cheap b75 mATX mobo, then sell the 5670 and upgrade to 7750 or 7770. Upgradeability is so much better with the Intel socket, you can get a used i5 in a couple years for $100 to go with a graphics card upgrade

 

[inf64]

OK ,after some googling i FINALLY found a Athlon 750K/740 review. It has stock performance and OCed performance,both in apps and games .Also the reviewer used 7970(vaporx 6GB),basically the fastest card on the market. Results are very interesting. The OCed gaming performance includes the maximum OC each CPU managed,including the IB i3 that was pushed to 3.5Ghz via reference clock. 750K fares rather well,performing rather good versus the rest OCed CPUs. Where it's slower is in those few titles like shogun2,starcraft2,civ5 . 750K was OCed,rather easily according to the author, to 4.5Ghz with 1.35V(on good air cooler). They basically conclude its biggest competitor is 965BE if one can find it. But the problem is that it does consume more power than 750k(in any case) and has lack of ISA support. The plus is one can upgrade to 83xx and get even better performance.

So the choice is purely economical. If one is on a strict budget then cheap FM2(65$)+cheap 750K(90$)+solid air cooler(20%) is a viable choice.

 

[Yuriman]

If ill buy an i3 will it last for another 4 years? and I'm gonna upgrade gpu to hd 7770 after christmas... my current cpu is getting to cpu usage while playing game to 95%, will it be the same with i3? Thanks


* or maybe if i crossfire my current gpu and A10 5800k i wont have to buy a hd 7770 ?

Depends on your needs. I recently upgraded from a Q6600 to an Ivy Bridge i5 because I felt my old quad was getting a bit long in the tooth.

With a mild overclock a Q6600 is pretty comparable to an Ivy Bridge i3, so an i3 performs something like a high-end chip from 5-6 years ago.

If you can swing an FX-6300 I feel it would be a better choice, and a low-end (and possibly used) i5 even better still.

A used Nehalem based system would be a great choice if you can find a good deal on one.

 

[priscoo]

Okay i think im gonna go with i3. Last question how is FX 6300 doing against i3?

 

[Yuriman]

Stock vs stock, an i3 is a good match for an FX-6300 (in gaming). It wins some and loses some, depending on how well threaded a game is. The FX's advantage is in its ability to extract another ~25% performance from overclocking.

On the flip side, since an i3 can't be overclocked you don't need to even consider an aftermarket cooler or high-end motherboard.

 

[inf64]

Stock vs stock, an i3 is a good match for an FX-6300 (in gaming). It wins some and loses some, depending on how well threaded a game is. The FX's advantage is in its ability to extract another ~25% performance from overclocking.

On the flip side, since an i3 can't be overclocked you don't need to even consider an aftermarket cooler or high-end motherboard.

This sums it up pretty well. FX6300 is also a lot faster in many MTEd workloads(and applications are just going to get better support for MT in future,games included).

 

[Kenmitch]

On the flip side, since an i3 can't be overclocked you don't need to even consider an aftermarket cooler or high-end motherboard.

Agree....But a decent z77 motherboard is only about $20-30 more and would give the option later if needed.

 

[lyssword]

This sums it up pretty well. FX6300 is also a lot faster in many MTEd workloads(and applications are just going to get better support for MT in future,games included).

Yeah, just put together fx6300 setup yesterday for my friend, pretty beastly, for $130 it beats i3, specailly newer apps, plus his electricity is very cheap ^^

 

[SocketF]

The FX6300 is nice, but already double the price of the 750K.
However, if you want to use the machine for the next few years, I assume it is a better solution, due to the 6 threads.

Dont't forget to oclock the Northbridge, some games like that. At least 2.4 Ghz should be feasible.

However, you should not buy the cheapest mainboard if you want to overclock. I would not recommend anything worse than the Asus M5A97 Evo R2.0, it has (very) good VRMs.

 

[priscoo]

Yeah, if ill go with FX 6300 and overclock it, i will have to buy a better mobo + new fan - and with that price i could have i5 3350p with z77 mobo or i3 with z77 and save some money.

 

[lyssword]

Yeah, if ill go with FX 6300 and overclock it, i will have to buy a better mobo + new fan - and with that price i could have i5 3350p with z77 mobo or i3 with z77 and save some money.

lol, you don't get it, fx6300 is much better STOCK than i3. In multi-threaded it gets destroyed by fx6300.

 

[Hubb1e]

priscoo, you never said what you are upgrading from. That matters a lot for our recommendations.

The A10 or A8 5600K will be able to crossfire with your 5670 giving you better performance than the 5670 on an i3. When you upgrade to the 7770 the A10/8 will not crossfire with that card putting those chips about even with an i3.

They are close IMO with the i3 winning for upgradability and the A10/8 winning for crossfire with your graphics card. But, if you do go with the i3 make sure to get a z77 board because you will regret it when you decide you want to upgrade to an i5 later down the road. The extra $20-$30 spent now is well worth it.