Your so sure of yourself. Wild speculation currently. Given the price point, and some of the more legitimate looking leaks.. it looks like BD will be very competitive with SB, while being a bit cheaper. There have been a lot of respectable people saying "this is what you will want for gaming" that have seen what none of us have yet. And these aren't trolls or people that would be lying.
To me it looks like a GeForce/Radeon battle.. more or less equal, give or take a few wins on either side. It will all come down to the features you want.
So far most of the comments I have heard have stated that Bulldozer at best will be competitive in heavily multithreaded workloads and trail SB in gaming.
I bet even if AMD sold a 2 module / 4 core unlocked Bulldozer FX chip with a watercooler, all for $169, you'd still have people on here saying a 2500k (and its requisite $50 cooler) would be better. Even before the NDA is lifted. There's no way those retail prices could cover a water cooler, unless the uArch really is slower than Stars.
Looks like the Corsair H50/H70.
Your so sure of yourself. Wild speculation currently. Given the price point, and some of the more legitimate looking leaks.. it looks like BD will be very competitive with SB, while being a bit cheaper. There have been a lot of respectable people saying "this is what you will want for gaming" that have seen what none of us have yet. And these aren't trolls or people that would be lying.
To me it looks like a GeForce/Radeon battle.. more or less equal, give or take a few wins on either side. It will all come down to the features you want.
I am all for a successful launch for AMD but with all this "frosting" that AMD is adding like the Tin box and now this cooler, it just looks like AMD is putting more attention to the asthetics rather than the CPU itself.
I am all for a successful launch for AMD but with all this "frosting" that AMD is adding like the Tin box and now this cooler, it just looks like AMD is putting more attention to the asthetics rather than the CPU itself.
Also, the Thermalright Macho HR-02 delivers similar performance at far lower noise levels than the Corsair H70/80 kits and costs $40. Enclosed watercooling systems have been put on a pedastal in the last 2-3 years. I still don't particularly see any value in them. Just because you are getting a "$70-90" enclosed watercooler doesn't make the cooler worth its $70-90 asking price when you can get better coolers for $40.
Where can we buy that Macho?
This is the shop listed off Thermalright's website.
http://nansgaminggear.webs.com/apps/webstore/products/show/2563118
Looks more like an AMD branded water cooler that is sold seperatly from the CPU.
Has nothing to do with anything.
No proof whatsoever that the processor comes with it.
On a side note that cooler looks awesome.
i nominate u for a self ownage of the year...lol...
Intel Corp. recently confirmed intentions to bundle liquid cooling systems into boxes with its next-generation Core i7-3000-series central processing units (CPUs) code-named Sandy Bridge-E. The firm also decided that it would sell the coolers separately so that to address other platforms. The actual devices will be made by Asetek and sold under Intel brand.
What am I missing. Where's the funny?
Intel is doing the same thing that AMD is doing.
People are failing to look at the other side of the coin.
Hence the funny.
I'm not a big fan of watercooling, and if AMD really is sending these things out with the CPUs, it's not a good sign IMO. Perhaps Bulldozer runs pig rich and hot when overclocked to 5ghz and needs water to control the heat output.
I'll be damned if I ever put water inside my computer.
All I've got to say is that unless the thing can overclock to 5ghz on air and perform twice as fast as my Phenom II across the board, I'm not interested.It's just another SKU that isn't out yet. The standard retail is tin can w/air cooler.
I really hope water cooling doesn't become the norm any time soon.
Adding a nitro boost to a motor makes it work better as well. It doesn't make it a good idea for most people, though.why not? there's nothing wrong with it, it actually works better ya goof.