New Gaming AMD FX BEAST Rig Awesomness

[Headfoot]

Yall sorta beting a dead horse here, this "gaming rig" has been running single channel ddr3 since inception and apparantly SSD's is just a fad that'll pass. There is reasoning and then there is not. Ill argue that here, there is not.

This is so accurate it hurts

 

[tential]

lol not that video again

reality is that an even an older 2500k is faster overall for gaming. in fact in some games an 8350 cant even stay above 60 fps no matter how much gpu power you have.

I don't know if you read this thread or have been following it. I certainly haven't although I read the title and lol'd quite hard. "Beast" rig and "AMD FX" together is just always cute.

OP - "Because I had a tight budget and AMD FX is fine for me. It's mainly a gaming rig and not a video editing machine in which Intel is superior. I can play any game I have on ultra including crysis 3 and battlefield 4 at 1080p and I never drop below 30 frames while I average 40-50 frames per second on my most graphically demanding games."

So OP really doesn't care to hit 60 FPS which is quite obvious by the AMD FX choice. To be fair, I gamed at 30 FPS on my 6 year old gaming laptop while I was building my current rig and my brother and I both enjoyed it. Then I built my gaming rig and I'll never look back.

I mean what can you do to educate a person? I just got an SSD in 2013, and it's a requirement for any new PC going forward. The performance jump.... I don't know why I punished myself so hard. I got a 250 GB SSD for my games/OS. Everything else goes on normal hard drives. Everything else actually is PURELY Movies/Television shows and in fact each new Hard Drive is simply named Movies or Television along with the corresponding number of which drive it is. Television 3 is about to be bought within the next hour actually.

But like OP said, to each his own. It's just extremely hilarious that you would post on anandtech, which has TONS of articles/reviews on what is optimal to do when you build a PC (Especially a gaming PC) and then OP would turn around and do the EXACT opposite. The PC I built 5 months prior to OPs topic post probably posts higher minimum frame rates and better gaming experience for the same amount (or slightly more since I splurged for my 4770k when I didn't really need it).

But well, I actually read this site and reviews rather than only post here and get my knowledge from joke youtube videos lol.

To be fair though, I really am not a huge 60 FPS/120 FPS minimum person. If it's a SP game, I can game at 30 FPS happily as long as it's synced. I've done more than enough console gaming and I game on a 70 inch HDTV anyway so low response times isn't something I'm used to (newer 70 inch models have lower respone times though. I'm sure his rig offers decent gaming performance if you just want what I consider to be the bare minimum (30 FPS and the ability to set graphics very high). But I don't know why OP would purposely gimp himself when he didn't have to (and in multiple ways) but well, who can understand why people do what they do right?

 

[mikevs]

Yall sorta beting a dead horse here, this "gaming rig" has been running single channel ddr3 since inception and apparantly SSD's is just a fad that'll pass. There is reasoning and then there is not. Ill argue that here, there is not.

Well as of today I am running 16gb of ram or two 8gb sticks.

And SSDs will eventually be the mainstream and I look forward to that day in which HDDs are phased out and I can get 1tb sdds for under $200. I can wait even if it takes another five years or so. Until then I will either get a hybrid drive or Raptor 10k rpm drive if I feel it's needed. As of now though I am more than satisfied with my pc .

 

[cytg111]

Well as of today I am running 16gb of ram or two 8gb sticks.

And SSDs will eventually be the mainstream and I look forward to that day in which HDDs are phased out and I can get 1tb sdds for under $200. I can wait even if it takes another five years or so. Until then I will either get a hybrid drive or Raptor 10k rpm drive if I feel it's needed. As of now though I am more than satisfied with my pc .

HDDs will problary be phased out about the same time when tapes do. Point being, they complement each other and you'd be a fool not to take advantage of the technology.

 

[mikevs]

HDDs will problary be phased out about the same time when tapes do. Point being, they complement each other and you'd be a fool not to take advantage of the technology.

Whatever man to each their own. All that matters is I am happy with my gaming rig. It plays everything on ultra settings and have not run into any issues. It boots up fast enough for me and plays everything fast enough for me and is stable.

 

[Zardnok]

Best of luck and enjoy your Beast.

 

[wwf85321]

So nice

 

[skipsneeky2]

Nice rig Op, hope you enjoy.

I used to run those raptor drives,i went from the 74gb to the 150gb and even jumped on the 300gb shortly after release and i can tell you a ssd makes those things so incredibly slow in comparison.

Go cheap on a used 40gb which is big enough for Windows and a few small programs and you can see why everyone is attempting to convince you just how incredibly awesome this upgrade is.

 

[TeknoBug]

hehehe AMD and beast in the same sentence. Thanks for the laugh today.

I used to have a couple of those 10Krpm drives, not really worth anymore compared to SSD's.

Also there are reasons why physical HDD's will be around for a long time, such as in enterprise companies where data is critical- if a SSD array fails, there's no getting that data back. CSI Forensics from Las Vegas (not the TV show) years ago held a conference demanding that their equipment doesn't get SSD's when upgraded after discovering that they couldn't recover any data off damaged SSD drives at crime scenes.

 

[crashtech]

The ability of humans to rationalize questionable decisions after the fact never ceases to amaze me. That said, sometimes I dazzle myself with the very same skill.

 

[Gikaseixas]

Awesome rig OP. I have a PC powered by the FX8350 and it does everything and well but you do need an SSD for the OS... till then, you haven't seen nothing beastly

 

[tential]

The ability of humans to rationalize questionable decisions after the fact never ceases to amaze me. That said, sometimes I dazzle myself with the very same skill.

Despite having TONS of data, people still manage to find the one youtube video (with zero data), that gives the opinion they want to hear, rather than just look at the data themselves.

And it's amusing to see him want to wait for when hard drives are phased out lol. It's like refusing to get a microwave until oven's are phased out. They both heat food up, but it's 2 different things still.

SSDs/HDs are two different things completely. HardDrives are for mass storage and aren't going away. Seagate has plans for 10TB drive release. You're going to somehow replace that with an SSD? Lol......

With tons of data out there and with everyone online able to make a youtube video to announce their "opinion" we get tons of misinformation.

This youtube generation is just a hilarious joke though. They'll believe everything a person says on a youtube video with zero data/references to back up what they say. But post an article with graphs and actual data, and they'll ignore it (assuming they can even read and analyze data/graphs). Oh well though.

 

[crashtech]

I get a lot of blank stares when I try to explain the use of an included data drive to users with a new system equipped with an SSD and a HDD. On the the last one I built, I just pointed all the symbolic links for Downloads and My Documents, etc. to corresponding directories on the data drive so the SSD wouldn't fill up too fast, and hoped for the best.

 

[bullzz]

@crashtech - in my case i tell them not the fill up the 'disk' so they dont have to spend more for the additional HDD

 

[TeknoBug]

I get a lot of blank stares when I try to explain the use of an included data drive to users with a new system equipped with an SSD and a HDD. On the the last one I built, I just pointed all the symbolic links for Downloads and My Documents, etc. to corresponding directories on the data drive so the SSD wouldn't fill up too fast, and hoped for the best.

Why symlink when you can move location of download/music/video/documents in properties and then set Windows TEMP/TMP and AppData TEMP/TMP to the alternative drive via advanced system settings- easy as breathing air.

 

[Erenhardt]

I don't understand the hostility here. Its necroed thread. His new PC is monster compared to where he was before. Could he choose better for gaming? Probably, but that would cost him a bit more, or he would have settled for less .

Even in todays standards, and its worth pointing that some people here say that amd don't have anything to offer in x86 across the board, latest CPU review from "not so pro-amd" site came to the conclusion that fx is hell of a deal - contrary to what the enlighten ones are spreading here...

chill a bit or go release the pressure...

 

[mrmt]

Even in todays standards, and its worth pointing that some people here say that amd don't have anything to offer in x86 across the board, latest CPU review from "not so pro-amd" site came to the conclusion that fx is hell of a deal - contrary to what the enlighten ones are spreading here...

If you don't care about the ancient platform, the extra power consumption and poor ST performance, FX is a good deal. The question is, why accept these compromises?

 

[AtenRa]

If you don't care about the ancient platform, the extra power consumption and poor ST performance, FX is a good deal. The question is, why accept these compromises?

Because everything in life is a compromise,
You compromise by paying more so you will not have to compromise in to having higher power consumption and lower ST performance :whiste:

 

[frozentundra123456]

8350 would definitely not be my choice for gaming, but I am with the OP on the SSD. I dont have an ssd, and definitely do not feel that there is anything wrong with my system. Would certain things be faster with an SSD? I suppose, but for the usage that I do, I certainly do not sit there thinking "damn, I wish excel would open in 0.5 seconds instead of 1.5.(just guessing, an example, before someone disputes those figures.) And I usually just go to sleep mode, so boot times are not a big deal either. Granted, I dont do a lot of anything that includes heavy file transfers, I am sure there are cases where a SSD is a major time saver, but I am very happy with my system without one.

 

[KingFatty]

8350 would definitely not be my choice for gaming, but I am with the OP on the SSD. I dont have an ssd, and definitely do not feel that there is anything wrong with my system. Would certain things be faster with an SSD? I suppose, but for the usage that I do, I certainly do not sit there thinking "damn, I wish excel would open in 0.5 seconds instead of 1.5.(just guessing, an example, before someone disputes those figures.) And I usually just go to sleep mode, so boot times are not a big deal either. Granted, I dont do a lot of anything that includes heavy file transfers, I am sure there are cases where a SSD is a major time saver, but I am very happy with my system without one.

People have used similar reasoning when horseless carriages (cars) came out. They were like, well, my horse serves me fine, I don't need to go any faster.

My point is that until you actually use an SSD, you won't know what you are missing. A hard drive will seem fine, but once you use an SSD, you will be like "oh I see now" and then if you ever switch back to a non-SSD computer you will really notice it.

I use an SSD at home, but when I come to work and use the hard drive computer, it can be very frustrating when I try to launch windows+Office+Outlook+Lync+Visio etc. Just waiting for the hard drive LED to stop flashing, staring at the loading screen... that is a thing of the past with SSD.

 

[frozentundra123456]

I see your point, and I am sure it "feels" better. OTOH, how long does it actually take? 10 seconds absolute maximum? And you can leave the app open the rest of the day. So again, I would argue that compared to everything else, it is a very minimal difference. Granted, if I were to make a new build, I would consider an SSD, if the price were reasonable enough to make it my only drive. Whether it is worth it to have to have two drives, I am still not convinced.

I guess, no offense meant to you personally King, but I just sort of resent the prevailing feelings on these forums that one is old fashioned and not technically knowledgeable unless they feel they must have an SSD. As far as the horseless carriage analogy, it is a bit extreme dont you think?

 

[ShintaiDK]

SSD is the single most important upgrade since we went from 2D to 3D. Its night and day difference.

HDs are just so terrible outdated. Its about equal to pick a floppy over HD.

 

[crashtech]

It's almost like dial-up vs broadband... then again not everyone even remembers dialup.

 

[TeknoBug]

My laptop with UEFI+secure boot boots from pushing power button to desktop (no login password) in merely 6 seconds and that's on SSD (from cold boot, no hybrid sleep/boot or anything). Everything just feels snappy, if you haven't used an SSD and don't see a point in having one, you have no idea how much you're missing out.

PS- heck yeah I remember dialup, 9600-56K bps bandwidth, ugh those days sucked. I used to dial into my university's server just to chat with classmates about school work and socialize about how Korn sucks and how Metallica and White Zombie rocks, etc.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Come on guys. I have used dial up, and believe me, waiting for a big file to download on dial up is a far cry from waiting for a file to open from my hard drive. And Shintai, are you saying an SSD is a bigger advance than the improvement we have seen in gpus and cpus? Seriously? Should i ditch my i5 and discrete gpu and to back to my athlon xp 2600 with integrated graphics on the mb with an SSD?

Edit: but we are off topic on a thread that is already a necro thread, so I think we should just agree to disagree. Or if you guys like, I will even agree that an SSD is a nice upgrade, but just not worth it for me. Why should I spend money and time to "improve" something I am happy with?