New GPU's from ATI or nVidia?

[B S D]

Hi,

The current X800 and 6800 series chips have been out for a while, yet I don't recall seeing any news about a new chip from either company.

Everything seems quite.... too quite...

Is there any public information on the next generation of chips?


-- David

 

[OnEMoReTrY]

Originally posted by: B S D
Hi,

The current X800 and 6800 series chips have been out for a while, yet I don't recall seeing any news about a new chip from either company.

Everything seems quite.... too quite...

Is there any public information on the next generation of chips?


-- David

Has someone been sleeping under a rock lately =o?

 

[B S D]

Why, yes...

I actually have been sleeping under a rock. (Well, not literally...)

Please fill me in.

 

[mwmorph]

x950 coming out soon.(confirmed...sorta.)
also roumors(highly doubtful) that the newest g70/r5xx will be 2-3x more powerful. they will have something liek 24pixel pipes and 16 vertex shaders or something(maybe 32pipes 24shaders) clocked at something like 800mhz core/1.8ghz mem.

 

[nitromullet]

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=31&threadid=1544260&enterthread=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=31&threadid=1542985&enterthread=y

Those links should get you up to speed on what this forum knows about G70/G80, R520, ATi's MVP, and nVidia's nForce4 SLI for intel. Not that there really is a lot of info out yet, but there are a few cool links in each thread.

 

[MisterChief]

Originally posted by: OnEMoReTrY

Originally posted by: B S D
Hi,

The current X800 and 6800 series chips have been out for a while, yet I don't recall seeing any news about a new chip from either company.

Everything seems quite.... too quite...

Is there any public information on the next generation of chips?


-- David

Has someone been sleeping under a rock lately =o?

:laugh: Reminds me of all those Unreal Engine 3 threads...poor bastards never stood a chance...

 

[Fistandantilis]

so says maximum pc aprill editio 05 nvidia will be skipping the upgrade path and letting us play with SLI for a while, as for ATI well I think that they should really get a line on more SLI options, i get this info from pc max aprill 05 page 15
like they state why pay all that money for cards that offer little upgrade from there closes predicessors?
if i am wrong let me know, you wont hurt my feelings i save that treat for my wife lmfaoad

jawshuwa

GAME ON!

 

[bjc112]

6800/x800 series hasn't been out THAT long..

And besides, they will both run ANYTHING at super high resolutions.

 

[chinkgai]

9800 pro was king of the hill for a much longer time than the current cards have been out...

either that or time is jes flying faaast and my age is showing

 

[Goi]

Originally posted by: bjc112
6800/x800 series hasn't been out THAT long..

And besides, they will both run ANYTHING at super high resolutions.

 

[Fenuxx]

Originally posted by: bjc112
6800/x800 series hasn't been out THAT long..

And besides, they will both run ANYTHING at super high resolutions.

Yeah, everything but UE3.0 . UE3.0 won't be out for a while yet anyway, and by that time, the 6800s and X8x0s will be bigtime obsolete by then.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
x950 coming out soon.(confirmed...sorta.)
also roumors(highly doubtful) that the newest g70/r5xx will be 2-3x more powerful. they will have something liek 24pixel pipes and 16 vertex shaders or something(maybe 32pipes 24shaders) clocked at something like 800mhz core/1.8ghz mem.

Nice. Now STFU?

ATI have recently been telling developers that six vertex shaders is more than enough for a modern GPU

Please be quiet unless you actually have something with evidence.
EliteBastards analysis on what we currently know about ATi.

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: geforcetony

Originally posted by: bjc112
6800/x800 series hasn't been out THAT long..

And besides, they will both run ANYTHING at super high resolutions.

Yeah, everything but UE3.0 . UE3.0 won't be out for a while yet anyway, and by that time, the 6800s and X8x0s will be bigtime obsolete by then.

UE3 will be out sometime in mid to late 2006. You seem to be giving the 6800/X800 cards a much shorter lifespan than all the previous cards. Radeon 9700 Pro came out in 2002 right? It can still run ANY game at 1024X768 at max settings.

 

[Fenuxx]

True, but it has been seen that the 6800s and X8x0s will run UE3.0 at VERY slow speeds. Some early tests were done with a 6800U, and it could only run the engine at 640x480 with max settings at about 15FPS. Thats pretty sad, but as I said, the 6800s and X8x0s will be pretty much obsolete by then. Not saying they're bad cards, as I have one myself, but when UE3.0 comes out, it will make those cards look like GeForce2 MX's.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: geforcetony
True, but it has been seen that the 6800s and X8x0s will run UE3.0 at VERY slow speeds. Some early tests were done with a 6800U, and it could only run the engine at 640x480 with max settings at about 15FPS. Thats pretty sad, but as I said, the 6800s and X8x0s will be pretty much obsolete by then. Not saying they're bad cards, as I have one myself, but when UE3.0 comes out, it will make those cards look like GeForce2 MX's.

Note your key phrase "early tests".
When the game actually comes out, it will be polished, complete, and tweaked. It will run just fine on the GF6 series.

 

[Goi]

When the Doom3 Alpha was leaked, the top of the line card of that time, a 9700Pro, could do the same thing - 640x480@~15FPS. When Doom 3 was finally released, it did a lot better. I'm guessing the same would happen with UE3

 

[chinkgai]

Originally posted by: geforcetony
True, but it has been seen that the 6800s and X8x0s will run UE3.0 at VERY slow speeds. Some early tests were done with a 6800U, and it could only run the engine at 640x480 with max settings at about 15FPS. Thats pretty sad, but as I said, the 6800s and X8x0s will be pretty much obsolete by then. Not saying they're bad cards, as I have one myself, but when UE3.0 comes out, it will make those cards look like GeForce2 MX's.

you're saying that the 500 dollar cards of right now will be gf2 mx's by mid/late 2006? so a year or so?? rofl, you can be quiet now man. :roll:

 

[Fenuxx]

Originally posted by: Goi
When the Doom3 Alpha was leaked, the top of the line card of that time, a 9700Pro, could do the same thing - 640x480@~15FPS. When Doom 3 was finally released, it did a lot better. I'm guessing the same would happen with UE3

Yes, but the D3 Alpha ran like shite on everything. In case you don't remember, the D3 demo was first shown on an R300. It ran fine when id showed it, but it ran horribly on any other machine. The reason I said what I said is because UE3.0 was shown with a build that was on one of DE's (Digital Extremes) own machines, and it ran that bad.

Originally posted by: chinkgai
you're saying that the 500 dollar cards of right now will be gf2 mx's by mid/late 2006? so a year or so?? rofl, you can be quiet now man. :roll:

I was just over-exaggerating my point. By the time UE3.0 rolls out, then anyone running a 6800\X8x0 will be in serious need of an upgrade anyway. Actually, I think that the 6800's\X8x0's will be about on par (performance wise, at least) with what GF4 Ti 4600's are like today. They aren't "craptastic", but they are FAR behind the times as far as performance and features go. Just trying to prove a point, thats all.

 

[chinkgai]

i think ti4600 is a "tad" extreme

maybe 9800 pro and even thats a bit extreme if u ask me

and this would be at max resolutions and all eyecandy on

 

[MisterChief]

Originally posted by: dguy6789

Originally posted by: geforcetony

Originally posted by: bjc112
6800/x800 series hasn't been out THAT long..

And besides, they will both run ANYTHING at super high resolutions.

Yeah, everything but UE3.0 . UE3.0 won't be out for a while yet anyway, and by that time, the 6800s and X8x0s will be bigtime obsolete by then.

UE3 will be out sometime in mid to late 2006. You seem to be giving the 6800/X800 cards a much shorter lifespan than all the previous cards. Radeon 9700 Pro came out in 2002 right? It can still run ANY game at 1024X768 at max settings.

The problem is, graphics technology is increasing at a faster rate than anything before 2003. I believe the 6800/X800 will not be obsolete, merley "mid-end", by 2006

 

[Fenuxx]

Perhaps. Truthfully, I sure as hell hope you're right, 'cause I'm not looking to upgrade much anytime soon.

 

[cryptonomicon]

Actually, I think that the 6800's\X8x0's will be about on par (performance wise, at least) with what GF4 Ti 4600's are like today. They aren't "craptastic", but they are FAR behind the times as far as performance and features go. Just trying to prove a point, thats all.

You skipped a generation... so you mean it will be on par with cards 2 generations old?

 

[Fenuxx]

I don't mean as far as features, I mean PURE PERFORMANCE. Maybe the featureset will be like 2 generations old, but I am betting not. I just mean that the performance of these current generation cards will be roughly 2 generations old (again PERFORMANCE ONLY) by the time UE3.0 rolls out.